Will lack of subscription kill Elite?

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How did a debate about subscriptions morph into this, this latest attempt to flog some life into a horse that is so dead it now appears to be a pot of glue and some cat food?
 
fyi, removing solo and adding single player only is better ;)

fyi its not going to happen. You're going to have to find a different game if you're looking to ruin other peoples fun. This one isn't going to force people into your crosshairs.

Not that you should leave if you want to keep crying, no tears are more delicious than griefer tears. ;)
 
Oh you're right it doesn't. You can do that in the online but you're just pathetic to do it. Don't play a multiplayer game if you can't handle the multiplayer. And fyi, removing solo and adding single player only is better ;)

You seem to be equating multiplayer means pvp. It can also mean social interaction and having other people about to flesh out the game world. Elite is primarily a co-op pve game with pvp as an option. Driving anyone who wants to play with other people into solo or smaller private groups because they don't want constant pvp isn't really what they're trying to build here with the open option.
 
fyi its not going to happen. You're going to have to find a different game if you're looking to ruin other peoples fun. This one isn't going to force people into your crosshairs.

Not that you should leave if you want to keep crying, no tears are more delicious than griefer tears. ;)
Oh, here we go wiith the insults now. Lmao. Keep trying. Oh I forgot, you don't know how to read and totally missed the part where I said "I don't grief" Keep up the good work on kissing moderators behinds.

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You seem to be equating multiplayer means pvp. It can also mean social interaction and having other people about to flesh out the game world. Elite is primarily a co-op pve game with pvp as an option. Driving anyone who wants to play with other people into solo or smaller private groups because they don't want constant pvp isn't really what they're trying to build here with the open option.
When did I say multiplayer was only about PvP? I didn't.
 
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If you live in the modern world there are tons of things you pay for by the hour, it might not be superficially described that way, but in effect that is what you are doing.

Then I also pay for them by the year, month, week, day, minute, and second, too. Making it some hourly charge doesn't change the underlying notion that I see no need to subscribe to keep playing a game that I already paid for once and was sold as a non-subscription product. The last thing people playing games should be worrying about is whether they're making the most productive possible use of their time so their hourly fee isn't wasted. I don't buy a book once from Amazon and pay for it again when I re-read it later. I don't buy a DVD once and then keep paying to view it because I get so much enjoyment watching it over and over.
 
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When you start flinging words like scared, pathetic, cowards and carebears, the buzzwords of the griefer community, it doesn't really matter what else you say, your true colors are shining through.

Ill drop off the derailing of this topic, this one has shown himself for what he is, my work is done. Although I think we got our answer from Edward on the topic of the thread a few pages back anyhow.
 
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fyi its not going to happen. You're going to have to find a different game if you're looking to ruin other peoples fun. This one isn't going to force people into your crosshairs.

Not that you should leave if you want to keep crying, no tears are more delicious than griefer tears. ;)

It's not only griefers that think traders should play in open Dabba
 
It's not only griefers that think traders should play in open Dabba

This. Trading helps change the fate of star systems. If there are commanders trying to sway a system and i go and decide to trade away their progress they have to deal with it. Without being able to deal with me. Doesnt seem right.
 
When you start flinging words like scared, pathetic, cowards and carebears, the buzzwords of the griefer community, it doesn't really matter what else you say, your true colors are shining through.

Ill drop off the derailing of this topic, this one has shown himself for what he is, my work is done. Although I think we got our answer from Edward on the topic of the thread a few pages back anyhow.
I'm not calling anyone pathetic, I said it's pathetic thing to do. Kind of like that little mouthy kid runs behind his big brother the second he's confronted.
 
I think anyone should be able to play anywhere they want, and not have to play anywhere they don't. Frontier agrees. Good enough for me.
Ya, it's called single player. You can trade without the fear of another player ever inhibiting your game. Answer this, what is the point of logging into open mode to run away the second you see another player on the radar and switch to solo mode? What purpose does it serve?
 
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I think anyone should be able to play anywhere they want, and not have to play anywhere they don't. Frontier agrees. Good enough for me.

Yeah, it's just a shame that ships like the clipper and dropship won't get used because there are more capable combat ships out there and the type 9 for trading, you won't need anything else. That's the problem. What's the point if you just go solo, no need at all for large cargo space and ability to defend itself in one ship.
 
Lack of support might kill it. Yes.

If sub will provide propper support - I can tolerate it. Sure better than nothing, even if it costs.
 
Ya, it's called single player. You can trade without the fear of another player ever inhibiting your game. Answer this, what is the point of logging into open mode to run away the second you see another player on the radar and switch to solo mode? What purpose does it serve?

OT, but just a thought: you know there's actually a reason why so many traders/non combattant players act like this: they were attacked too many times, and just don't trust anyone anymore. But STILL want to experience open multiplayer.

I met many traders onboard Type6, Type7 and even Hauler who just didn't act as you described. We say hello to each others, if inclined to go on with the dialogue we do, and that's it. Then one day, they'll meet some trigger happy fellow, whose first action will be to spam the interdiction hammer and feast on their defenseless ship just because hey, it's multiplayer. The victim learn the lesson, and log off every single time a PC fighting ship shows on radar. They don't want to avoid everyone, they just want to avoid the gun crazies.

Right now, your typical trading ship, no matter its class, is a sitting duck in front of even a stock eagle piloted by Nooby Mc Firstday. Almost defensless, and moving in slow-mo. What are they supposed to do? Waiting to be gunned down for the sake of other people fun in MP?

But don't worry, things will balance right after some time. Mainly because trading brings much more bucks than playing pirate, and when all those traders will make their daily routine in fully equipped Pythons, you won't see them log off too much anymore :p
 
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