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You all are speaking about bounties count... bounties count doesn't matter, because if i were pirate i wouldn't rank up.
 
Since we don't have a proper kill counter available the bounty counter can be used as a approximation which should be fairly accurate as far as your bounty kill / clean kill ratio doesn't change too much over time.
 
Since we don't have a proper kill counter available the bounty counter can be used as a approximation which should be fairly accurate as far as your bounty kill / clean kill ratio doesn't change too much over time.

Nope. If i were pirate bounties claim doesn't matter. So bounties wouldn't matter. You all are just stormbraining your brain :D it's just kills... and maybe rank of the victim.
 
You all are speaking about bounties count... bounties count doesn't matter, because if i were pirate i wouldn't rank up.

killing clean ships doesn't add to your elite rating. This was changed to give even less reason for this to happen.
The bounty kills total is the kills total.

Not sure what happens if you kill a ship that is clean in its current system, but it has a bounty from elsewhere.
 
killing clean ships doesn't add to your elite rating. This was changed to give even less reason for this to happen.
The bounty kills total is the kills total.

Not sure what happens if you kill a ship that is clean in its current system, but it has a bounty from elsewhere.

This cant'be true. This should mean that FD cutted a way to play the game.
I want to be pirate... but pirates can't rank up.
sorry man, but rofl

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killing clean ships doesn't add to your elite rating. This was changed to give even less reason for this to happen.
The bounty kills total is the kills total.

Not sure what happens if you kill a ship that is clean in its current system, but it has a bounty from elsewhere.

And so... why pirates have rank?
 
This cant'be true. This should mean that FD cutted a way to play the game.
I want to be pirate... but pirates can't rank up.
sorry man, but rofl

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And so... why pirates have rank?

There is no pirate rank. You are confusing a pirate with a murderer. A pirate steals cargo, a murderer kills clean ships.
In the past you could see the total number of kills you have, and the number of player kills.

This was removed and replaced with the new stats, which show number of bounties and combat bonds.

The bounty for killing clean ships was increased from 600cr to 6000cr and kills on clean ships aren't listed on your stats, they don't count towards your elite combat rating anymore.
 
If 'Clean' pilots don't count towards ratings, does this mean that Anarchy system nav beacon pirates haven't been counting?
 
If 'Clean' pilots don't count towards ratings, does this mean that Anarchy system nav beacon pirates haven't been counting?
I don't think so. Last time my combat rank went up, I was at an Anarchy nav point. I did use the Kill Warrant Scanner always first though.
 
If 'Clean' pilots don't count towards ratings, does this mean that Anarchy system nav beacon pirates haven't been counting?

Thats a good question. I would assume that if they have any bounties in any other system they aren't considered clean.
 
This cant'be true. This should mean that FD cutted a way to play the game.
I want to be pirate... but pirates can't rank up.
sorry man, but rofl

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And so... why pirates have rank?

It was revealed a while ago that FD were misinterpreted when they said killing a clean player was of no use. It still gives you rank towards elite and i assume this carries over to killing clean NPC's. So your golden, slay away you pirate menace !
 
It was revealed a while ago that FD were misinterpreted when they said killing a clean player was of no use. It still gives you rank towards elite and i assume this carries over to killing clean NPC's. So your golden, slay away you pirate menace !

Where did they say that, I thought it was pretty clear cut that killing clean players wouldn't count towards your elite rating.
I believe "stopping griefing teenagers" was the term used.
 
Here is the exact wording used:

"Don't award combat skill points when committing a murder"

You can't commit murder (technically speaking) in an anarchy system or at combat zones so i would think all kills there count.
 
It has always been my understanding that ONLY pirate kills count towards your ranking. Why? Because the Pilots Federation was organized as a way to rank cargo vessel pilots ability to handle themselves against pirates. Mass murder doesn't really count towards your status with the Pilots Federation. Killing some hauler that forgot to pay his fines will not increase your Pilots Federation ranking. Killed a few smugglers? No rank for you! The Pilots Federation only cares about killing pirates.

So how do you know you are killing pirates? They normally ask you to drop your cargo. I have no idea how player pirates fit into the rankings.
 
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It has always been my understanding that ONLY pirate kills count towards your ranking. Why? Because the Pilots Federation was organized as a way to rank cargo vessel pilots ability to handle themselves against pirates. Mass murder doesn't really count towards your status with the Pilots Federation. Killing some hauler that forgot to pay his fines will not increase your Pilots Federation ranking. Killed a few smugglers? No rank for you! The Pilots Federation only cares about killing pirates.

So how do you know you are killing pirates? They normally ask you to drop your cargo. I have no idea how player pirates fit into the rankings.

Definitely not only pirates, theres a post floating about where someones claimed to reach elite mainly in warzones.
 
Definitely not only pirates, theres a post floating about where someones claimed to reach elite mainly in warzones.

Then they changed the rules. War zone kills did not count in past versions. I know because I had almost 1,000 war zone kills and no rank progression until I started killing pirates.
 
Where did they say that, I thought it was pretty clear cut that killing clean players wouldn't count towards your elite rating.
I believe "stopping griefing teenagers" was the term used.

Ok so spent a couple hours trying to find the post that I read, or my brain totally made up it appears.

I see no combat reward for murder came in beta 3.9 and my recollection was that some time after sandro or ed added to this suggesting the ranking was still adjusted but I can't find it so assume I made it up adding to some mis-information there.

sorry fergal.
 
Anyone got an idea on numbers? I have a bit over 6 million in bounty money, about 680 claims (just under 9000 per claim, some of which were in Gamma pre-buff).

I've never been to a warzone yet or fought any human CMDRs; maybe I should.
 
Go to the Elite CMDR thread on this forum, someone has already made Elite complete with spreadsheet of details.
Seems camping at a conflict zone and letting capital ships do the work and you just tag the kills is the easy option...
 
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