Escaping under fire?

pilotbugs · Jan 5, 2015

I am interested to hear what some of you do when you realize it's better to run screaming like a little girl from a fight. (This was me in my Asp yesterday around 22% hull will an Anaconda and a few sidewinders in tow).

I tend to do this:

1. Point away and afterburner

2. After establishing my vector, I burner again and turn of flight assist.

3. Keep burning with pips 4 in engines and 2 in shields until I can frameshift.

Thoughts?

Flying Penguin · Jan 5, 2015

Pretty much that, but add some barrel rolling, some use of horizontal thrusters and chaff spamming.

Oh, and pop into SC rather than full jump out. Much quicker, doesn't require you to align vectors before jumping and it forces the opponent to choose between shooting and charging their FSD to follow. Once in SC, turn wildly and immediately drop down again into normal space then jump to a nearby system.

Wishblend · Jan 5, 2015

Flying Penguin said:
Pretty much that, but add some barrel rolling, some use of horizontal thrusters and chaff spamming.

Oh, and pop into SC rather than full jump out. Much quicker, doesn't require you to align vectors before jumping and it forces the opponent to choose between shooting and charging their FSD to follow. Once in SC, turn wildly and immediately drop down again into normal space then jump to a nearby system.

I do the same.

Roqxide · Jan 5, 2015

Flying Penguin said:
Pretty much that, but add some barrel rolling, some use of horizontal thrusters and chaff spamming.

Oh, and pop into SC rather than full jump out. Much quicker, doesn't require you to align vectors before jumping and it forces the opponent to choose between shooting and charging their FSD to follow. Once in SC, turn wildly and immediately drop down again into normal space then jump to a nearby system.

+1 That's useful information. Looks like penguins really can fly

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Almighty Bob · Jan 5, 2015

Have a quick' taunt key' message set up in case they say something smart. IE catch me if you can fatty.

In game you can be ruder than on the forum but no swearing please

talharbash · Jan 5, 2015

Once you're about 4-5k, and in a Cobra, hit silent running for about 20 seconds or how ever much you can afford to. That should take you right out of sensors for a bit. It worked on hunter missiles fired from an NPC when I was 4k away. The missiles just stopped tracking me.

Whiterose · Jan 5, 2015

Power to engines, boost, while rolling and pressing every type of thrust button, FSD charging, then taunt...

Romaan · Jan 5, 2015

Flying Penguin said:
Pretty much that, but add some barrel rolling, some use of horizontal thrusters and chaff spamming.

Oh, and pop into SC rather than full jump out. Much quicker, doesn't require you to align vectors before jumping and it forces the opponent to choose between shooting and charging their FSD to follow. Once in SC, turn wildly and immediately drop down again into normal space then jump to a nearby system.

+1 - Great advice - took the words right out of my mouth!

Ouiche · Jan 5, 2015

pilotbugs said:
I am interested to hear what some of you do when you realize it's better to run screaming like a little girl from a fight. (This was me in my Asp yesterday around 22% hull will an Anaconda and a few sidewinders in tow).

I tend to do this:

1. Point away and afterburner

2. After establishing my vector, I burner again and turn of flight assist.

3. Keep burning with pips 4 in engines and 2 in shields until I can frameshift.

Thoughts?

Add an heatsink and you're gold.

Boost + FA off + silent running + heatsink to escape when your shields are already gone saved me a couple of time.

Firedshot · Jan 5, 2015

Some times it's better to escape flying at them as you can gain a gap to escape while they turn around after you have passed.

Meritz · Jan 5, 2015

I pull a "they're moving in to attack!" maneuver. Basically like this:

1. Turn *towards* the pursuing ship/group.
2. When close, boost under/over it
3. Full power to engines
4. Boost some more
5. Supercruise out because by the time they turn, you're clear.

In case you just can't pull that off (multiple pursuers from different vectors), use a "corkscrew maneuver" - while boosting away, continuously roll while applying vertical thrusters. Makes it real hard to keep you in their reticles.

Jex =TE= · Jan 5, 2015

Firedshot said:
Some times it's better to escape flying at them as you can gain a gap to escape while they turn around after you have passed.

Otherwise known as....

Blow through: Directive/informative call that indicates aircraft will continue straight ahead at the merge and not turn with target/targets.

Rasilon · Jan 5, 2015

I panic and press the big red button.

Bozeman42 · Jan 5, 2015

Daggermark said:
I do the same.

I jump to as far a system as I can. I have an A rating FSD and the pursuer may not.

OVMorat · Jan 5, 2015

I panic and with they were smartbombs in this version of Elite

{SAS}Stalker · Jan 5, 2015

once FA is off spin round and deploy hard points!

Flying Penguin · Jan 5, 2015

Bozeman42 said:
I jump to as far a system as I can. I have an A rating FSD and the pursuer may not.

This isn't necessarily reliable in a trading craft, as you will often be burdened down with Cargo.

An alternative is to just jump to the nearest system and then immediately jump to a second, then third, and a fourth if necessary. The time taken to scan the wake each jump should give you a progressively bigger lead each jump, if they can find you and the right wake after the first jump at all.

HoshiQaVam · Jan 5, 2015

Just out of curiosity, why are you turning FA off? Is it to maintain a roll? Previously it was an obvious tactic as you could maintain top speed and shift pips to shields, but the devs have since fixed that (annoyingly, it was a good tactic!)

Flying Penguin · Jan 5, 2015

HoshiQaVam said:
Just out of curiosity, why are you turning FA off? Is it to maintain a roll? Previously it was an obvious tactic as you could maintain top speed and shift pips to shields, but the devs have since fixed that (annoyingly, it was a good tactic!)

You can be moving away from them and still shooting, just like before. The change just means you will slow to non-boost speed.

Ouiche · Jan 5, 2015

HoshiQaVam said:
Just out of curiosity, why are you turning FA off? Is it to maintain a roll? Previously it was an obvious tactic as you could maintain top speed and shift pips to shields, but the devs have since fixed that (annoyingly, it was a good tactic!)

It lower your ship temperature in a straight line because you can keep a 4 pipe speed w/o having to apply throttle. ( It's very effective if you fly away in silent running) If i'm not mistaking, it's also possible to keep a boost speed if you shut off your trusters just after boosting.