NON existent PvP

SahilD

SahilD
I am surprised this game have no PvP at all, its a great game so far but its lacking in PvP i'm aware of players who don't care about PvP and they want to play alone/co-op which is totally fine but it doesn't mean to leave PvP players out totally, lot of players out there bought elite dangerous for sandbox + PvP, including me, i am really hoping in future there will be some type of PvP areas in game i mean just a few stations for us PvP players won't hurt, does it ? simply people who want to do PvP may enter these PvP only zones and players who don't want can continue enjoying singleplayer/Co-op without any need to enter the PvP zone :), i know PvP players are in minority right now and i think its simply because there is no efficient/fun way to engage in PvP, I'm sure if they implement PvP lot of players out there will enjoy this game more than they are right now, Plus they will never get bored, no matter what PvP is always exciting and new each time you try it (atleast for me), I'm really hoping community and developers will support this suggestion.
 
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SahilD

SahilD
Bomba Luigi said:
Form a Group with other Players who want PvP and make a meeting Place. Boom, lots of PvP Players in the same Area, have fun fighting each other.
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I agree with you but the hassle of finding players and group might be too much, plus not all players will be online at all times also some players might be hundreds of Light years away from each other so meeting place might also be tricky, if there were open PvP zones it would be more exciting and much more fun than groups, anyway this is what i think.
 

charognard

charognard
SahilD said:
I agree with you but the hassle of finding players and group might be too much, plus not all players will be online at all times also some players might be hundreds of Light years away from each other so meeting place might also be tricky, if there were open PvP zones it would be more exciting and much more fun than groups, anyway this is what i think.
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You just need visit some Extraction site and nav beacon in order to find some guys to shoot... Or flying in SC in hight populated area...
 

graham.reeds

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Elite Dangerous is PvP. I can legitimately attack another player to steal his cargo. This will bring consequences in that I will have other players attacking me.

Elite Dangerous is not Call of Duty or Counterstrike. Randomly attacking someone and forcing them to fight to the death is not part of the game. If you want that then I suggest you uninstall Elite Dangerous and look elsewhere for your kicks.

If you want you can create a PvP group and segment yourselves away from everyone else, but if I remember correctly, players with bounty appear in the open group.
 

SahilD

SahilD
charognard said:
You just need visit some Extraction site and nav beacon in order to find some guys to shoot... Or flying in SC in hight populated area...
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Extraction sites are a no place for PvP you will get wanted as soon as you shoot other player, plus i don't want to shoot just any player in nav beacons and extraction sites not knowing they want to do Pvp or not, most of them are probably not going to fight back and will charge up supercruise as soon as i attack, there is no fun in PvP if opponent is not willing to fight back, plus if they decide to fight back i will lose as everyone will be shooting on me because of "Wanted" status.
 

davelister

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SahilD said:
Extraction sites are a no place for PvP you will get wanted as soon as you shoot other player, plus i don't want to shoot just any player in nav beacons and extraction sites not knowing they want to do Pvp or not, most of them are probably not going to fight back and will charge up supercruise as soon as i attack, there is no fun in PvP if opponent is not willing to fight back, plus if they decide to fight back i will lose as everyone will be shooting on me because of "Wanted" status.
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In Lave are many Griefers underway you can da PVP with them
 

Spiggs

Spiggs
Here's a top PvP tip for you.

1. First, find one of the high intensity conflict zones in one of the empire systems that are having a rebellion(Check the Galnet news feeds in a station).

2. Once you arrive choose the faction that is backed by the federation.

3. You'll find that your scanner will now fill up with lots of lovely red hollow triangles who are all enemy players.

4. Target the nearest player and fire away.

Chances are you won't last very long as most of the other players tend to fight for the empire in empire space. But at least you'll be able to satiate your desire for PvP and you won't belive it's non existent anymore.

May I refer you to Commander Zeewolf for an example.... http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=nHUo91LY6r0.

He's picked the empire faction which is why all the hollow triangles are green.

Hope thats what your looking for. Tally-ho and best of luck. :D
 
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SahilD

SahilD
graham.reeds said:
Elite Dangerous is PvP. I can legitimately attack another player to steal his cargo. This will bring consequences in that I will have other players attacking me.

Elite Dangerous is not Call of Duty or Counterstrike. Randomly attacking someone and forcing them to fight to the death is not part of the game. If you want that then I suggest you uninstall Elite Dangerous and look elsewhere for your kicks.

If you want you can create a PvP group and segment yourselves away from everyone else, but if I remember correctly, players with bounty appear in the open group.
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Well there is no need to act like ignorant kid here, you don't even know whats real PvP, PvP is not about shooting anyone you see, PvP is player vs player, if other player wants to fight you also equally and know whats coming that's called real PvP, i'm not going to go on trade routes to pick on traders, whats so fun about that ? have you even tried to understand what i'm trying to suggest, you may want to read my initial post again, are you really calling stealing someones cargo PvP ? you said "Randomly attacking someone and forcing them to fight to the death is not part of the game" I am well aware of that, i would never want to do that ever, I would rather quit this game rather to do this, also are you suggesting me to sway myself away from everything and everyone just to PvP in a group ? well that's not happening why would i miss all the other singleplayer options just to PvP ? grow up

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Thanks i will probably go check it out

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Spiggs said:
Here's a top PvP tip for you.

1. First, find one of the high intensity combat zones in one of the empire systems that are having a rebellion(Check the Galnet news feeds in a station).

2. Once you arrive choose the faction that is backed by the federation.

3. You'll find that your scanner will now fill up with lots of lovely red hollow triangles who are all enemy players.

4. Target the nearest player and fire away.

Chances are you won't last very long as most of the other players tend to fight for the empire in empire space. But at least you'll be able to satiate your desire for PvP and you won't belive it's non existent anymore.

May I refer you to Commander Zeewolf for an example.... http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=nHUo91LY6r0.

He's picked the empire faction which is why all the hollow triangles are green.

Hope thats what your looking for. Tally-ho and best of luck. :D
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I will also try this :) thanks for the tip
 

graham.reeds

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First you don't want to segment yourself off from the rest of the game, but you want to play in a way its not supposed to.

Elite Dangerous is not about 1v1 duels.

PvP is correct for calling current gameplay because it is player (pirate/bounty hunter) vs player (trader/pirate).

There are players who are vehemently against any player interaction PvE. I oppose them since I am part of the environment also.

It seems you bought Elite Dangerous to play a game that is not Elite Dangerous?!
 

charognard

charognard
SahilD said:
Extraction sites are a no place for PvP you will get wanted as soon as you shoot other player, plus i don't want to shoot just any player in nav beacons and extraction sites not knowing they want to do Pvp or not, most of them are probably not going to fight back and will charge up supercruise as soon as i attack, there is no fun in PvP if opponent is not willing to fight back, plus if they decide to fight back i will lose as everyone will be shooting on me because of "Wanted" status.
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LOL what did you expect ??? You want PVP without all risks who are coming with ? If you want you can PVP when you want but there are some risks except in warzone or anarchy systems... For me PVP in ED work fine. According your post, i think you re loocking for an arena, and it's the wrong game for that kind of pvp.
 

SahilD

SahilD
graham.reeds said:
First you don't want to segment yourself off from the rest of the game, but you want to play in a way its not supposed to.

Elite Dangerous is not about 1v1 duels.

PvP is correct for calling current gameplay because it is player (pirate/bounty hunter) vs player (trader/pirate).

There are players who are vehemently against any player interaction PvE. I oppose them since I am part of the environment also.

It seems you bought Elite Dangerous to play a game that is not Elite Dangerous?!
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Well you still don't understand, I know ED is not about 1v1 duels, but to inform you i placed this thread in a "Suggestion" section and that's what i am doing here, i am suggesting so in future this game can grow even more, i mostly bought this game for its PvE features because they rock, also someone who shoots anyone he sees will stop doing it if there were PvP only zones, there will be reduced harassers and griefers because most of them will hang out in PvP zone, I'm just trying to suggest something which i think will improve this awesome game even more, i don't understand why are you against it ? what will be the problem for you suppose if there were few PvP only zones(out of 400 billion systems) where players who want to PvP can enter and rest can just continue whatever they are doing. how can this harm this awesome game in any way or effect any other players ? i think it will only improve the game in future whatsoever, i can't think of any negatives of this, if there are please inform me.
 
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Spiggs

Spiggs
SahilD said:
I will also try this :) thanks for the tip
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NP fella, let us know how you get on, maybe even post up stating "Elite Dangerous PvP found alive and well" Hehe! ;).

Quite honestly, conflict zones have been in since the Alpha test stage and have always provided an opportunity to mix PvP within a PvE environment so commanders can mix it up earning some credits shooting NPCs while legitimately testing their mettle against other players who have chosen the opposing faction. So where this notion of "No PvP in Ed" comes from I don't know?

Perhaps it need to be advertised more clearly as GALNET can seem a tad cryptic if your new to the game.

Happy Hunting Commander. :)
 
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raok

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There could be some tournament system. I still do not see this as a priority.


You can also just ask your friend. You both turn off crimer reporting. Then you see who is better.


The news feed has information of human players who have high bounties, and I think the last known system as well. They have >1million bounties just for you to collect.


But when another player is going to lose -> (S)He logs off. This is more serious issue. Definitely that 2 minute log off timer if you have been engaged to PvP.
 

Aedil

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What is PvP zone only? A special place where players are fighting 32 x 32 a-la Battlefield style? This is an open world game, not a multiplayer ship-flying battle simulator, you can PvP anywhere, no matter if people/authorities around like it or not. Just risk/reward is different. Very bad idea.
 

graham.reeds

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raok said:
There could be some tournament system. I still do not see this as a priority.


You can also just ask your friend. You both turn off crimer reporting. Then you see who is better.


The news feed has information of human players who have high bounties, and I think the last known system as well. They have >1million bounties just for you to collect.


But when another player is going to lose -> (S)He logs off. This is more serious issue. Definitely that 2 minute log off timer if you have been engaged to PvP.
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My suggestion is to have the AI take over the piloting with the emphasis on escape. However that is a different topic altogether.
 

Inquisitor_Horus

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SahilD said:
I agree with you but the hassle of finding players and group might be too much, plus not all players will be online at all times also some players might be hundreds of Light years away from each other so meeting place might also be tricky, if there were open PvP zones it would be more exciting and much more fun than groups, anyway this is what i think.
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Well what you have to remember is you aren't playing an mmo, you're playing a game with multiplayer capability. So yea, to find pvp you'll need to go do some extra work to gather people up for it, otherwise with the capability to play solo your chances of running into people randomly outside the starter system in MP is pretty damn low with 400b systems.
 

graham.reeds

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Please give up on the 400b systems. I wish DB hadn't made such a big deal of it. 99.99999985 is uninhabited by humans and the rest is for all intents and purposes out of range.
 
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