50% Credit Bonus on Open Play Server

[Sunleader]

As Title says.
Encourage players to join open play by giving them an 50% bonus on all profits.

To make it not affect direct economy pay it out as Open Bonus Bonds.
Each profit you make by missions, trading, bountys, combat etc etc will also yield an Open Bonus Bond worth 50% of the profit you made.
This can be turned in under contacts on any station in the game.

This should actually make people risk open play

 

[Lestat]

I don't that a good idea. We will have group who like single play complain about it. But I think there should be 2 different commender names for single and online mode.

 

[Angorak]

As Title says.
Encourage players to join open play by giving them an 50% bonus on all profits.

To make it not affect direct economy pay it out as Open Bonus Bonds.
Each profit you make by missions, trading, bountys, combat etc etc will also yield an Open Bonus Bond worth 50% of the profit you made.
This can be turned in under contacts on any station in the game.

This should actually make people risk open play

Wrong.
All it does by rewarding open play is penalize solo players.
It sends the wrong signals to solo players. It won't make me join the open universe...I NEVER intended to play the game in anything but solo.
Now you want me to make 50% less just because I'd rather play solo. You play in whatever mode you like and I'll do the same.
Gad I'm so sick of these solo vs open threads. Sorry I sound so testy but what makes people think that they can somehow induce solo players
to make themselves targets. I played all the other Elite games solo and will do the same here.

 

[MARPATdroid]

Once again, I play both modes, depending on what computer I am using and my internet connection at the time. This would penalize me for having to travel and use my tethered internet when away from home, on a machine that is right at the recommended minimum specs, so it can't handle the extra players in the instance.

Why should I be penalized for playing how I want to play at a given time.

 

[Lestat]

Wrong.
All it does by rewarding open play is penalize solo players.
It sends the wrong signals to solo players. It won't make me join the open universe...I NEVER intended to play the game in anything but solo.
Now you want me to make 50% less just because I'd rather play solo. You play in whatever mode you like and I'll do the same.
Gad I'm so sick of these solo vs open threads. Sorry I sound so testy but what makes people think that they can somehow induce solo players
to make themselves targets. I played all the other Elite games solo and will do the same here.

See Op I told you so.

 

[Faded Glory]

As Title says.
Encourage players to join open play by giving them an 50% bonus on all profits.

This should actually make people risk open play

I'm just curious, why is it so important to you what mode other people play in? Really.

 

[Angorak]

See Op I told you so.

Not a complaint...just a statement of fact.....sorry you can't see that.

There's the problem..people see any dissenting comment as complaint.

 

[AndyC77]

Ridiculous. Not going to happen.

 

[withnail]

Sorry, but I think this is a daft idea. We all inhabit the same galaxy and people like me play in all three groups dependent on mood.

What your describing is some kind of Animal Farm "some players are more equal than other players".

 

[Sunleader]

I don't that a good idea. We will have group who like single play complain about it. But I think there should be 2 different commender names for single and online mode.

I have no Idea what you want to tell me lol

Wrong.
All it does by rewarding open play is penalize solo players.
It sends the wrong signals to solo players. It won't make me join the open universe...I NEVER intended to play the game in anything but solo.
Now you want me to make 50% less just because I'd rather play solo. You play in whatever mode you like and I'll do the same.
Gad I'm so sick of these solo vs open threads. Sorry I sound so testy but what makes people think that they can somehow induce solo players
to make themselves targets. I played all the other Elite games solo and will do the same here.

1.
Actually 100% +50% is 150%
Down to 100% would be an Decrease of 50 out of 150 which means you earn 33% less.
But well who cares.

2.
So instead you Penalize Open Players by having them Put up with Real Threats instead of the Lushy NPCs which cant Kill an Sidewinder when they themself have 3 Anacondas ?
Sounds Legit *gg*

3.
Actually its not costing you anything.
You can just Play Solo.
Its an Extra Reward for doing an Risky Job.
Nothing more nothing less.
You dont want Risky Jobs you stay Solo.
No Risk but also not an Extra Payment for Risky Jobs of course.


4.
WHY do you even care ?
If you dont want to Play Open anyways it should be completly irrelevant what others get or dont get.
Its not like you.ll ever face em or something lol.

Once again, I play both modes, depending on what computer I am using and my internet connection at the time. This would penalize me for having to travel and use my tethered internet when away from home, on a machine that is right at the recommended minimum specs, so it can't handle the extra players in the instance.

Why should I be penalized for playing how I want to play at a given time.

Why should we be Penalized for Playing Open ?
Right now all that Open Play Gives us. Is an higher Risk of being Killed.
Thats it.
I dont see why the Open Players should be Penalized for Playing Open

See Op I told you so.

Yeah.
I must Admit this is far worse than I tought.

I go by the Basic Principle that I.ll do my own thing.
And as long as I dont have any Disadvantage from it.
Others can do theirs.

But these Guys seriously dont want to have others get anything.
What an envious bunch.
Its not like anything would change for them in Solo.
They would not even notice because they never meet other Players anyways xD

I'm just curious, why is it so important to you what mode other people play in? Really.

Its not.
Honestly said I could not care less what OTHER players do

I however work by an simple Risk/Reward Calculation.


Now Playing Online has an 100 times higher Risk than Playing Solo.
And right now I have absolutely no reason to Play Online.
So I will just Play Solo.

So in another Thread I statet that if I should Play Online I want something in Return to actually justify me taking that Risk.
Thats what I suggested here.

As easy as that
But from what I see this Community is way worse then me.

I for my part dont play Open because I dont see any benefit from doing it.
But these guys here apparently get a crisis at the mere tought of anyone being rewarded for something they dont want to do.

Not a complaint...just a statement of fact.....sorry you can't see that.

There's the problem..people see any dissenting comment as complaint.

He wasnt referring to you.

I said in another Topic that I wont join Open unless I get an Reward for it.
What he said basicly translates that this community is an hive of envious chickens who neither dare to join open nor would ever allow that open would provide any benefit to players.

And God he was right about this.
I am not even one of the Open Players.
But right now I seriously consider to become one.
Just to not be associated with people like you guys which seem to get a crisis at the tought that others with which they never plan to interact anyways, might get some extra reward for risking higher losses.

Ridiculous. Not going to happen.

Maybe.
Maybe not *gg*

We will see.

Sorry, but I think this is a daft idea. We all inhabit the same galaxy and people like me play in all three groups dependent on mood.

What your describing is some kind of Animal Farm "some players are more equal than other players".

Actually its the other way around.
Right now we basicly have this system of some Players being more Equal than others.

Because right now Player playing in Open Server.
Risk their Ships and their Cargo while being forced to have more Equipment like Shields and other stuff Installed because they cant be sure to escape from Predators in case of emergency.

And meanwhile the more Equal Players in Solo leisurely fly around without Shields knowing that NPCs in this game are too stupid too boost after you and shoot your FSD anyways.
Having hardly any Risk to their Ships or Cargo.


Right now anyone Stupid enough to Play Open is being Penalized by higher Costs and Risks while getting the same Rewards.


An Higher Risk offers an Higher Reward on the Job.
Solo has the Benefit of having hardly any Risk (lets be honest. to Die in Solo you really need to be unskilled beyond recognition)
so what Benefit has Open right now ?

Talk about being more Equal than others mate *gg*
I am all ears about whats Equal here *gg*

 

[Gremlin]

Bad idea - 2 reasons:
1. switch to open; buy cargo. switch to solo; fly; dock; switch to open; sell.
2. or fly solo to some truly remote end of the galaxy; switch to open, enjoy profits 'safely', the minute you see a commander switch to solo again.

 

[The Brigadier]

If you want a reward for playing open, what about a decal for your ship after spending......say 100 hours in open play. Or 5% off of modules after reaching 200 hours?

I play open myself, but I've got a kitted out Asp, so I can deal with most things. To be honest I've only been interdicted twice, and I simply warped off without them firing a shot. They were nice when they messaged me 'requesting' my cargo though.

Open play isn't a killfest anyway. So someone might kill you if you're very, very unfortunate. 99% of players will say hi if you want to chat.

 

[Sunleader]

Bad idea - 2 reasons:
1. switch to open; buy cargo. switch to solo; fly; dock; switch to open; sell.
2. or fly solo to some truly remote end of the galaxy; switch to open, enjoy profits 'safely', the minute you see a commander switch to solo again.

Not really.

Its a one line Status Mod added.

Status Open.
Its added when Buying at the Station in Open Play.

And all Open Status will be removed when you Log into Solo Mode.
So even if you were to buy it in open, then ship it solo and sell it on open again.
You would not get the Bonus because the Game would remove the Status the moment you went Solo.

Its impossible to Cheat and its not even 3 lines of programming

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If you want a reward for playing open, what about a decal for your ship after spending......say 100 hours in open play. Or 5% off of modules after reaching 200 hours?

I play open myself, but I've got a kitted out Asp, so I can deal with most things. To be honest I've only been interdicted twice, and I simply warped off without them firing a shot. They were nice when they messaged me 'requesting' my cargo though.

Open play isn't a killfest anyway. So someone might kill you if you're very, very unfortunate. 99% of players will say hi if you want to chat.

Thats not worth the Risk Mate

 

[Amaze]

As Title says.
Encourage players to join open play by giving them an 50% bonus on all profits.

To make it not affect direct economy pay it out as Open Bonus Bonds.
Each profit you make by missions, trading, bountys, combat etc etc will also yield an Open Bonus Bond worth 50% of the profit you made.
This can be turned in under contacts on any station in the game.

This should actually make people risk open play

If you want to encourage players to join open play then open play needs to be more fun and social.

The ability to contact other pilots and arrange for escort or other in game missions for example.

Just make it more fun with things you can only do in groups and co-op play.


I am interested in what "wings" is going to bring to the game.

 

[Joe Spivey]

As Title says.
Encourage players to join open play by giving them an 50% bonus on all profits.

To make it not affect direct economy pay it out as Open Bonus Bonds.
Each profit you make by missions, trading, bountys, combat etc etc will also yield an Open Bonus Bond worth 50% of the profit you made.
This can be turned in under contacts on any station in the game.

This should actually make people risk open play

nah, won't work. All you are doing with things like this is punishing those players who have no choice but to play in Solo.

 

[Lestat]

You know the risk and reward already there. Player that kill other players tend to have high bounty. So the Rule already there.

 

[Joe Spivey]

What risk? If you really think playing open is a risk "per se" you can't have played the game all too much as yet.

This ^^^ There is no risk to playing in open, at least not once you get out of the core systems where all the pirates hang out.

 

[Angorak]

1.
Actually 100% +50% is 150%
Down to 100% would be an Decrease of 50 out of 150 which means you earn 33% less.
But well who cares.

2.
So instead you Penalize Open Players by having them Put up with Real Threats instead of the Lushy NPCs which cant Kill an Sidewinder when they themself have 3 Anacondas ?
Sounds Legit *gg*

3.
Actually its not costing you anything.
You can just Play Solo.
Its an Extra Reward for doing an Risky Job.
Nothing more nothing less.
You dont want Risky Jobs you stay Solo.
No Risk but also not an Extra Payment for Risky Jobs of course.


4.
WHY do you even care ?
If you dont want to Play Open anyways it should be completly irrelevant what others get or dont get.
Its not like you.ll ever face em or something lol.

It's obvious that if anyone is "complaining" it's you.
You play the way you want so why would the open players deserve to get extra for doing what they WANT to do anyway...


"What he said basicly translates that this community is an hive of envious chickens who neither dare to join open nor would ever allow that open would provide any benefit to players."
This is nothing but a piece of well chewed bile. I really couldn't care less whether someone plays open, private group or solo but saying that those who play solo are "envious chickens" because they are, again, PLAYING HOW THEY WANT TO PLAY is insulting and most likely very inaccurate.

 

[simon terlecki]

So basically, since you stated that you don't play open because you don't see a benefit, you simply want a bribe to make your game easier if you were to go into open play?

I've all 3 modes extensively, group when I want to just hang out with a few friends and make sure we'll see each other, Solo when I'm outfitting my ship and going out to test if I think it worth it or on those days that I just want to listen to a podcast, fly my ship and not bother or be bothered by humans, and open the rest of the time, especially if I want to make social interactions.

And to be honest, bribing people, especially game players never works because the reward quickly becomes mundane and you need to bribe some more to get back the same level of commitment.

So at first, you think: "If I get 50% more credits, I'll play in open"
then you get to a point where the credits don't mean anything and you'll want special open only weapons, or events etc. It would become a never ending cycle of wanting free stuff.

We're lucky enough to get multiple ways to enjoy our game the way we want to. If you don't feel the risk of flying in open is worth the reward or potentially making new friends, you don't have to fly open, and you don't need extra credits to make it worth it because that's just an excuse to get free stuff and nothing more.

 

[Sunleader]

One of the biggest flaws this idea has is that it would require to completely separate solo and open in which case the old debate about "why not an offline version" would reopen. If you don't separate them then you get a wonderful exploit on a silver platter: buy in open, sell in solo. Bang. Instant profit without even docking.

Personally I play 'like' a solo player but actually always in open. But I highly respect and understand people who want to play solo, always or sometimes.

I just explained how this exploit is completly impossible without seperating the Servers at all.
But well that would require to read the post hmm ^^

If you want to encourage players to join open play then open play needs to be more fun and social.

The ability to contact other pilots and arrange for escort or other in game missions for example.

Just make it more fun with things you can only do in groups and co-op play.


I am interested in what "wings" is going to bring to the game.

Why should I arrange for an escort when I can just play solo where I dont need one anyways ????
moreover why should anyone escort me when he could rather earn money during that time ???

nah, won't work. All you are doing with things like this is punishing those players who have no choice but to play in Solo.

Nope.
Actually you guys Punish the Players which Play Open because unlike you they risk their Ships and Cargo.

What risk? If you really think playing open is a risk "per se" you can't have played the game all too much as yet.

This ^^^ There is no risk to playing in open, at least not once you get out of the core systems where all the pirates hang out.

Any System where Profitable Trade can be done will also be Targeted by Pirates Sooner or later.
Right now Pirates are stuck to Core Systems because Open Play is so little populated that anywhere else you wont find anything.
After all hardly any Bigger Trader will Play Open.
They all sit in Solo....

This is one of the things that would change.
But well seeing some of the reactions here I can see easily that thinking further than your Doormat aint exactly something most people here do xD

1.

It's obvious that if anyone is "complaining" it's you.
You play the way you want so why would the open players deserve to get extra for doing what they WANT to do anyway...

Actually I play Solo because theres absolutely no reason to Play Open right now.
But well nvm that.

Reason I am even arguing on this is because I am utterly disgusted at this community right now.
I am an Solo Player and in the other Topic statet that I.ll stay as such cause I see no reason to risk my cargo by having other players around.

But this here is just ugly.
You claim you dont want to play open.
But you wont accept the idea of people playing Open getting an higher reward ?

Why ?
You dont ever see them.
So why do you even care ?

Your much like my two Cats.
If I fill in their Food they will try to steal each others cup.
And if on is faster then the other it will eat the stuff of the other one along.

Not because its actually Hungry but simply to prevent the other one from getting it


An common Occurence among Pet Animals.
They cant possibly accept that another Pet gets something they dont.


YOU GUYS.
DONT WANT
TO PLAY OPEN.

So you have no Right to decide anything thats happening in Open Gamemode

End of Story.



But well.
I see very well why the Open guys are so desperate now.


I apologize to the Guys from Open Play.
I tought you were Primarily Griefers/Pirates which are annoyed that you cant get fights because people dont play Open.
But this is entirely different.

This Community is selfish and cowardly beyond reasoning.



Greetz Sun
ps Topic can be Closed.
The Majority of the Community is Clearly Envious Cats who would Quit the Game if another Bowl would have better smelling Food added. Even if that other Bowl is sitting right in front of an Guard Dog who you need to steal it from *gg*