The race to Elite - how are ranks gained?

CMDR Bansidhe · Jan 9, 2015

OK for combat pilots I assume you gain ranks by killing other ships. Can someone confirm?

How do you gain ranks in Exploration and Trading?

Is it done, for example by number of trades, profit margin, money acquired, what? Does anyone know?

TannakaObi · Jan 9, 2015

CMDR Bansidhe said:
OK for combat pilots I assume you gain ranks by killing other ships. Can someone confirm?

How do you gain ranks in Exploration and Trading?

Is it done, for example by number of trades, profit margin, money acquired, what? Does anyone know?

If you need to ask then you are not in the race.

If you follow the blue links here then it tells you: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation

streki · Jan 9, 2015

I would assume that trading and exploration progression are simply based upon how much cash (profit) you've made from each ?

Rattatay · Jan 9, 2015

For exploration, it is also how complex systems you have discovered, and for instance if they contain Earth-like bodies. The price you get for selling exploration data should be an indicator of how much it counts for levelling up.

Flappers · Jan 9, 2015

Combat = Ranks up depending on the rank of the ship you are fighting. Much like an ELO system. If you are a novice and you take out an Elite, then your rank will go up. If you are Dangerous and kill a Harmless, then it won't make much of a difference.

Trading = Profits. The bigger the profits, the higher the rank goes up.

Exploration = Number of systems discovered and complexity of those systems.

nosscar · Jan 9, 2015

TannakaObi said:
If you need to ask then you are not in the race.

If you follow the blue links here then it tells you: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation

I don't think those are accurate, on that site the Merchant rank is 3.800,000 , i am still merchant, i earned over 6m in the last few days. According to that chart i should be one entrepreneur.

And i have seen plenty of brokers on youtube with pythons and 70m in the bank.

CMDR Bansidhe · Jan 9, 2015

TannakaObi said:
If you need to ask then you are not in the race.

If you follow the blue links here then it tells you: http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Pilots_Federation

Not that I can see, it doesn't. The closest it comes is that it says "A pilot's rank can be improved through trade, exploration, and combat."

It doesn't give any indication as to how this is achieved.

Thanks for the link though.

Whiterose · Jan 9, 2015

Trade is by profit, I am a dealer at 1.5M profit, and know that I need 3.8 to get to Merchant.....cant for the life of me remember where I saw it.

Wurmfist · Jan 9, 2015

I just keep shooting stuff and got up to "Competent" rating last night. I've also achieved "Surveyor" in exploration. Not sure how high those are, but it seemed to take me awhile to get there. Trading I'm "Mostly Penniless" because I'm not a spread sheet nerd and I haven't spent the time to trade much. Trading seems boring, even though I may be forced to figure it out because that is where the money is, unfortunately.

CMDR Bansidhe · Jan 9, 2015

Whiterose said:
Trade is by profit, I am a dealer at 1.5M profit, and know that I need 3.8 to get to Merchant.....cant for the life of me remember where I saw it.

So the game tracks your profits rather than your revenues?

Is this correct?

Mushroom · Jan 9, 2015

nosscar said:
I don't think those are accurate, on that site the Merchant rank is 3.800,000 , i am still merchant, i earned over 6m in the last few days. According to that chart i should be one entrepreneur.

And i have seen plenty of brokers on youtube with pythons and 70m in the bank.

no the site is correct you have over 3.8 million profit thus you are merchant.
and if you have 70 million yes you should be broker that is more than 33.9 mill but less than 131 mill (where over 131mill is for rank entrepreneur).
read the description more carefully, you understood it wrongly.
Personally I'm still under 33 million, so I'm still merchant but I'm really close to broker as i got clipper and just over 30 million

Title	profit required
Penniless	0
Mostly Penniless	10,000
Peddler	100,000
Dealer	750,000
Merchant	3.800.000
Broker	33,900,000
Entrepreneur	131,000,000
Tycoon	~380MCr
Elite	?

Whiterose · Jan 9, 2015

CMDR Bansidhe said:
So the game tracks your profits rather than your revenues?

Is this correct?

Yes, by profit, which you can see in your stats on the right UI.

TShriker · Jan 9, 2015

Mushroom said:
no the site is correct you have over 3.8 million profit thus you are merchant.
and if you have 70 million yes you should be broker that is more than 33.9 mill but less than 131 mill (where over 131mill is for rank entrepreneur).
read the description more carefully, you understood it wrongly.
Personally I'm still under 33 million, so I'm still merchant but I'm really close to broker as i got clipper and just over 30 million

Title profit required
Penniless 0
Mostly Penniless 10,000
Peddler 100,000
Dealer 750,000
Merchant 3.800.000
Broker 33,900,000
Entrepreneur 131,000,000
Tycoon ~380MCr
Elite ?

Is this total?

I am a Peddler but i have definitely never made 100,000 on one trip but have made a hell of a lot more than 750,000 in total... Or is it actual CR in bank at one time?

Whiterose · Jan 9, 2015

Its total profit of all trade runs, its right as I have been sad enoguh to record all mine.

TShriker · Jan 9, 2015

Just trade rather than Bulletin missions also? That is maybe where i am getting confused.

TannakaObi · Jan 9, 2015

TShriker said:
Is this total?

I am a Peddler but i have definitely never made 100,000 on one trip but have made a hell of a lot more than 750,000 in total... Or is it actual CR in bank at one time?

You can track all your trade statistics in game on the right hand panel under - Status - Statistics - Trading

Rimsey · Jan 22, 2015

Does anyone know the new rank systems for combat? I am currently Novice and have 139 kills. I've been looking for a break down but can't find one, or is it still being worked out since beta?

OnePercent · Jan 22, 2015

Combat: Number of kills. Apparently your victims ranks help gain higher ranks. unconfirmed as in no one has actually measured slaughtering X number of harmless's VS X number of Elite's.

Trading: Pure profit from trade. 1 Billion give or take in trade profits required for Elite rank.

Explorer, Same as trade, Rank progression based on profits made from selling exploration data.

Rimsey · Jan 22, 2015

Yeah I understand the mechanics just trying to find the number of kills required for each rank. Obviously this may depend on what ranks your killing if that is true.

remosito · Jan 22, 2015

Rimsey said:
Yeah I understand the mechanics just trying to find the number of kills required for each rank. Obviously this may depend on what ranks your killing if that is true.

It depends A LOT!

the guy who made it to Elite via capital ship helping hand. Needed I think 2000 kills for dangerous. Somebody else got dangerous at 2400 bounties and 24MCr I believe.

Me, I got it with 4200 and 36MCr or thereabouts.

Of note is the bounty claimed counter goes up by 2 or 3 if you kill an oponent who has bounties for multiple local or global factions.

A lot of my kills were at a RES with KWS with quite a bit of double and triple bounty oponents. So even though my counter says 4200. I probably barely crossed 3k kills. Still way more than the Elite dudes 2k. But that is he was at warzones with predominantly dangerous and up oponents. While I was at RES with predominantly Expert and Master Cobra oponents.

TL;TR save yourself the hassle of looking for that table. The counters vary so crazily depending on where and what you fight. They are essentially useless.