you must be joking, got wiped to 1000 credits

Quietman

Q
Code: 
// v0.01 Initial check in, missing include file and needs a main(); won't compile.
// v0.02 Added more troll strings, fixed a couple of bugs and added a corner case exception for OP doing a 180; still won't compile.

#include <vector>
#include <string>
#include <iostream>
#include <cstdlib>

#include <math.h>
#include "mt_rand.hpp"


std::vector<std::string> strResponseMsgs;


void CreateResponseMsgs(std::vector<std::string>& strResponseMsgs)
{
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("ah an exploiter got cought hahaha ");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("AHAHAHAHAHAAHahahahahahahahaahahahaahahaaa [manic laughter]");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("I Applaud FDev's - OP has redacted his post and gone to sulk in the corner. lol");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("It's called "the coming of the great white handkerchief...");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("you exploited and are complaining?\nsomething wrong in your head baby");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Can we stickify this thread? Pour encourager les autres?");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("this thread makes me all warm and tingly inside ty FD you have now really restore my faith in you");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Ha. Delighted");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Excellent! they got it wiped? Makes me want to play again!");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("im happy they got the money took away also even did my happy dance");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Hahahahaha\nGood on FDEV. I have heard about all of these exploits from Beta - Gamma - Release and never once tried to use them as I knew that it would end in tears and wreck my experience.");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("hang one I will try and squeeze a tear out for you.\n\nnope it not happening.");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("I think I speak for everyone who didn't abuse the glitch when I say <link to Nelson.gif> HA HA");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("<link to Nelson.mpg>");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("hahahhhaaahahahhahahahhahhahhahahhaaaaahahahaa can't stop laughing.....");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Started reading the thread, got to this post and thought, yep that about covers it lolol.");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("<link to Boromir.gif> One does not simply leave Founders World with ill gained Credits");
}


bool ShouldIPostInTheForumsAfterBeingCaughtExploitingOrReadingAboutSomeoneBeingCaughtExploiting(const int iUserId, const int iThreadId, const int iPostId, const bool bIamATroll, const bool bIreallyWantToPost, const bool bIamTheOp, std::vector<std::string>& strResponseMsgs)
{
    if(bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && bIamTheOp)
    {
        SetForumReputation(iUserId, -FLT_MAX);
        CreateAndPostTrollForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId);
        return TRUE;
    }

    if(!bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && bIamTheOp)
   {
        SetForumReputation(iUserId, GetForumReputation(iUserId) / 2.0f));
        SetEditForumInFutureCallBack(EditAndRedactForumPost(iUserId, iThreadId, iPostId), (long long)(7*60*1000000));
        SetEditForumInFutureCallBack(EditAndDoA180ForumPost(iUserId, iThreadId, iPostId), (long long)(107*60*1000000));
        SetForumReputation(iUserId, GetForumReputation(iUserId) * 2.0f + 67.0f));
        return TRUE;
    }

    if(!bIamATroll && !bIreallyWantToPost && bIamTheOp)
    {
        OutputDebugString("I am so ecstatic that my account wasn't banned and that I got off so lightly!");
        return FALSE;
    }

#if defined(I_IS_A_ENJUNEER)
    if(bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && !bIamTheOp)
    {
        CreateAndPostTrollCodeForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId);
        return TRUE;
     }
#else
    if(bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && !bIamTheOp)
    {
        int iMsgId = mt_rand() % strResponseMsgs.size();
        PostForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId, strResponseMsgs[iMsgId]);
        return TRUE;
     }
#endif

    if(!bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && !bIamTheOp)
    {
        CreateAndPostReasonableForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId);
        return TRUE;
     }


    return FALSE;
}
 
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catanonia

C
Hahahahaha

Good on FDEV. I have heard about all of these exploits from Beta - Gamma - Release and never once tried to use them as I knew that it would end in tears and wreck my experience.

In my opinion, if you deliberated used these exploits knowing they were exploits, then you deserve all you get for "cheating"

Those that did it once by accident, well they won't have been wiped unless it was done in accident by FDEV and in that case you have a legitimate ticket to raise.

Overall message is Cheaters / Exploiters don't win. I wouldn't be surprised that when the heat dies down, they go back to the last wipe gamma exploiters and do the same.
 
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Aleksej

Aleksej
Jockey79 said:
Some people were cheating and got caught.

FD first said they could keep their ill gotten gains (but no longer part of the race to Elite), then the community threw a hissy fit and FD went back on that and are now resetting those CMDRs
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That's wrong. FD always said that exploiters are going to lose everything.

It was the decision to leave those who were credited with billions of Cr that was reversed. And this issue affected about 50 people.
 

Endziel

E
Yanaran said:
I think you might need to take a closer look at your "repossession" process, I discovered the Founders Worlds bug on the 1st and immediately wrote a ticket (TICKET #00000018270) where I outlined it and performed a test where I sold and re-bought the same gear once and gained about 2 million credits. I never figured out how to repeat it (as I also noted in the ticket) and haven't had it happen to me again. Today I logged in with -20 million cr on my account, and I have not been contacted in any way (either by e-mail or via my ticket).

Meanwhile other bugs where I've lost massive amounts of money see no form of compensation (i.e. TICKET #00000022073 that cost me 7.5 million).

I can understand the need to streamline the process if a lot of accounts have too much credits, but this seems like punishment for trying to help rid the game of bugs and exploits. You can see my ticket history that I've helped many times with quite serious issues in the past (I was the one who discovered the "point defense disconnects you after 5s" and the "headtracking prevents you from logging in" bugs back in beta). While 20m is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things it feels like a punch in the gut instead of a "thank you".
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So stuff like this happens now. Everyone still jumping and cheering?
 

Cidcaldensfey

Cidcaldensfey
Quietman said:
Code: 
#include <vector>
#include <string>
#include <iostream>
#include <cstdlib>

#include <math.h>
#include "mt_rand.hpp"


std::vector<std::string> strResponseMsgs;


void CreateResponseMsgs(std::vector<std::string>& strResponseMsgs)
{
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Wouldn't be much of a rags-to-riches Space-game if you started with 70mil would it.");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("ah an exploiter got cought hahaha ");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("AHAHAHAHAHAAHahahahahahahahaahahahaahahaaa [manic laughter]");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("I Applaud FDev's - OP has redacted his post and gone to sulk in the corner. lol");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("It's called "the coming of the great white handkerchief...");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("you exploited and are complaining?\nsomething wrong in your head baby");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Can we stickify this thread? Pour encourager les autres?");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("this thread makes me all warm and tingly inside ty FD you have now really restore my faith in you");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Ha. Delighted");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("Excellent! they got it wiped? Makes me want to play again!");
    strResponseMsgs.push_back("im happy they got the money took away also even did my happy dance");
}


bool ShouldIPostInTheForumsAfterBeingCaughtExploitingOrReadingAboutSomeoneBeingCaughtExploiting(const int iUserId, const int iThreadId, const int iPostId, const bool bIamATroll, const bool bIreallyWantToPost, const bool bIamTheOp, std::vector<std::string>& strResponseMsgs)
{
    if(bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && bIamTheOp)
    {
        SetForumReputation(iUserId, -FLT_MAX);
        CreateAndPostTrollForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId);
        return TRUE;
    }

    if(!bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && bIamTheOp)
   {
        SetForumReputation(iUserId, GetForumReputation(iUserId) / 2.0f));
        SetEditForumInFutureCallBack(EditAndRedactForumPost(iUserId, iThreadId, iPostId), 7*60*0.000001f);
        return TRUE;
    }

    if(!bIamATroll && !bIreallyWantToPost && bIamTheOp)
    {
        OutputDebugString("I am so ecstatic that my account wasn't banned and that I got off so lightly!");
        return FALSE;
    }

    if(bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && !bIamTheOp)
    {
        int iMsgId = mt_rand() % strResponseMsgs.size();
        PostForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId, strResponseMsgs[iMsgId]);
        return TRUE;
     }

    if(!bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && !bIamTheOp)
    {
        CreateAndPostReasonableForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId);
        return TRUE;
     }

#if defined(I_IS_A_ENJUNEER)
    if(bIamATroll && bIreallyWantToPost && !bIamTheOp)
    {
        CreateAndPostTrollCodeForumMessage(iUserId, iThreadId);
        return TRUE;
     }
#endif

    return FALSE;
}
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Michael Brookes

Game Director
Yanaran said:
I think you might need to take a closer look at your "repossession" process, I discovered the Founders Worlds bug on the 1st and immediately wrote a ticket (TICKET #00000018270) where I outlined it and performed a test where I sold and re-bought the same gear once and gained about 2 million credits. I never figured out how to repeat it (as I also noted in the ticket) and haven't had it happen to me again. Today I logged in with -20 million cr on my account, and I have not been contacted in any way (either by e-mail or via my ticket).

Meanwhile other bugs where I've lost massive amounts of money see no form of compensation (i.e. TICKET #00000022073 that cost me 7.5 million).

I can understand the need to streamline the process if a lot of accounts have too much credits, but this seems like punishment for trying to help rid the game of bugs and exploits. You can see my ticket history that I've helped many times with quite serious issues in the past (I was the one who discovered the "point defense disconnects you after 5s" and the "headtracking prevents you from logging in" bugs back in beta). While 20m is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things it feels like a punch in the gut instead of a "thank you".
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I appreciate the frustration, unfortunately the system doesn't know that you've been helpful. It looks for the exploit to have happened and the strips away what it needs to. It sounds like you think there's an error been made. If you raise a ticket we can investigate more closely.

Michael
 

Tenshi

Tenshi
This is a funny thread. It's like those who pirate games and then complain of being stuck in a lift to the developers, only to have them reply "buy a copy of the game, instead if pirating one."

Op you exploited the game and cheated got caught and complain you got caught. Grow up.
 

vonvonbraun

Banned
vonvonbraun
I am actually totally fine with whatever happened


My apologies to fd, they did the right thing with me and I'm happy where I stand


It is for a healthier game and as a backer and supporter of elite I understand

I was just too emotional, sorry about the heat
 

Alvey

A
bassman said:
The thing about the founders world equipment bug is that its not at all obvious that you are profiting from it - you buy an upgrade for 50k and then upgrade somewhere else a few days later and get 55k (or whatever) tradein. Once youve bought anything the only way not to "exploit" it is to never sell or upgrade that component.
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I think the folk concerned are being smacked for doing it on purpose as logs will clearly show whether they were being very naughty opposed to stumbling on to it by chance and using inadvertently.
 

FX2K

FX2K
vonvonbraun said:
I am actually totally fine with whatever happened


My apologies to fd, they did the right thing with me and I'm happy where I stand


It is for a healthier game and as a backer and supporter of elite I understand

I was just too emotional, sorry about the heat
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Good post, +1 rep.
 

Kyle Brennan

Kyle Brennan
Michael Brookes said:
Yes - we'll make sure that we email players who have their accounts adjusted due to punitive actions like this.

Michael
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I went to founders to see this exploit, but for a while I thought it was a bluff, actually had to search the webz for it. I only heard about it here on the complaint threads last week! But yes it was real, a bit tedious to do but if you had the time it would provide unlimited cash. FD removed the exact amount from my account, not very much but the exact amount only. I was already well established before I went there and I expected it to be removed in any event. The original OP was reduced to 1000 credits...... He must have started at Founders and gained all cash and hardware from it, that is the only conclusion I can reach.
The other thing is that if we all started the game tomorrow and had 5 trillion in our accounts by magic, the game would effectivley be over for us. All challenges would be gone, all goals removed, anticipation gone. Why people would want to murder the game for themselves I don't know, we only play for the challenge, remove the challenge and what is there to do? Fight others? Everyone would have A spec Anacondas, whats the point?
 

Quineloe

Quineloe
vonvonbraun said:
Before doing the buy low, sell hi at founders I had a fully kitted cobra and a well upgrade type 7, plus 70 million total assets

What about the promise to let people keep what they had before?

Seriously fd?

This is too harsh
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They probably realized just how massive your exploitation of the bugs went, and that changed their minds. Be glad you may log in at this point.
 
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