Is The Python Worth It?
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The clipper wasn't on my radar since I didn't have the Imperial rank to be able to get one, or else I probably would have!
As far as the Python needing a nerf: I'm not sure why people feel like a ship that costs over 100 million credits to configure a strong combat setup NEEDS to be *balanced* with ships like the Viper, which can be set up for about 5 million. That said, I could see where it should probably not be as maneuverable as a significantly smaller/lighter ship, but I agree that I hope they don't nerf it too much.
Sigh... I guess this is technically exactly what I wanted, but now I want to play as much as I possibly can so I can get a Python before it gets nerfed....
Just so I can be that guy who says "Back in my day..."
Just so I can be that guy who says "Back in my day..."
They'd be very foolish to tweak it too much, its pretty much the only real combat ship after the viper so I wouldn't worry too much think of it this way, if you get it just after they nerf it, you'll never know how much better it was..... God i hate that i said that please don't nerf it too much
Here's the post in question: I don't read this as "major nerf", but maybe I'm just being hopeful. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=86856&page=17&p=1556219#post1556219
I still think that the cost of the python indicates that it SHOULD wipe the floor with the smaller ships (generally speaking, and assuming pilots of similar skill).
Because the game is not meant to be balanced around a strict bigger=better progression where everyone ends up flying Pythons, T9s, Anacondas. It's definitely not right that the Python turns as fast as the significantly lighter and smaller Cobra, I would expect it to still out-turn any other medium and large ship (except maybe the Asp, not sure how agile that one actually is in comparison) after the nerf, but not be just as agile as the Cobra.
They'd be very foolish to tweak it too much, its pretty much the only real combat ship after the viper so I wouldn't worry too much think of it this way, if you get it just after they nerf it, you'll never know how much better it was..... God i hate that i said that please don't nerf it too much
Oh, by the way, I spent some time this weekend doing some very cursory tests with the Python and all the different thrusters. I timed a few things like:
(note that all of these are very dependent on the mass of the ship).
Time to pitch up/down 360 degrees at 0% throttle.
Time to pitch up/down 360 degrees at 50% throttle.
Time to Yaw 360 degrees at 50% throttle.
Time to Roll 360 degrees at 50% throttle.
Max speed/Max Boost speed.
I intend to conduct similar tests once the 'nerf' happens so I can get an idea just how much of a change was made. It won't be super-exact, but I'm hoping I can at least get an idea of the 'delta'.
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darshu
Banned
Some of the more vocal people on the forums seem to want a arcady feel for combat and insist a ship that costs 2-5 mil be able to kill one that costs 200mil+. This is a space sim not C.O.D but with how many people seem to like that system it might be what we get.
Thanks for that. And yeah, I read it the same way you did, so I'm not really that concerned about it. Making up drama in my own head is just the only way I can motivate myself sometimes. lol...
Man. Now I'm all pumped for the Python. As a pilot who has almost always preferred the Viper and other "single seat fighters" like the A-Wing in other flight games, I'm pretty excited to have a ship that I could actually see myself "living in" from system to system in the Elite universe.
As a pure trader, it's not an upgrade for the T7 in my opinion. The additional cargo space is offset by the abysmal jump range and exorbitant fuel prices. Scooping is adding too much time to a roundtrip. It's a fun ship, but keeping the T7 (or Clipper!) and buying an A class Python with 120m is possibly the better option than trading with it.
It's WAY better for trading than a Type 7. It's jump range is not much less, it can hold around 80t more cargo, it can land at outposts and it's way faster/mobile which will shave a significant amount of time while docking and leaving a station. On top of that, who's going to interdict you in a Python?
My profits per hour in the Python were 40% higher than in a T7, running the exact same route. I could carry more cargo, and run the route faster. I since moved on to a route involving an outpost, and it's even slightly higher still. Yes, fuel costs are higher, but not enough to offset the other gains.
With a decent trade setup on a Python, you can get 16.1 LY max range with 284T (not as good a T7, but, not horrible).
i agree with all you said, except i was just interdicted in my Python in Altair, by a Cobra no less, i think he must have only realised when after battling for a few minutes and him using up his sheild cells constantly, he messaged me saying, "Asp is to big for me to take", then another message "whoa a python" and he was gone before i could catch him again.
Smaller ships are no problem to the Python, only problem is if they run, you can't catch him.
All credit to that Commander though, he stood his ground much longer than any NPC has lasted (even Anaconda ).
I suspect this is a reflection of the people who currently fly anacondas, as I suspect combat was at least a secondary concern for all of them lol
micky1up
Banned
i took one out last week in a cobra not hard at all if you know what your doing
Who's going to interdict a python? NPC anaconda lol.
Here's a trading python for you: http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=305,mpV4yG4yG,2-A0A07_6uBaA08I,0AA0AA0AA08c08c4_w7Q405U03w
268T of cargo with basic shields and fuel scoop (trust me you'll need it). Can jump more than 16LY fully laden and a joy to fly after the Type-7.
If you have the money and don't need the jump range then upping the thrusters makes life a bit easier.
268T of cargo with basic shields and fuel scoop (trust me you'll need it). Can jump more than 16LY fully laden and a joy to fly after the Type-7.
If you have the money and don't need the jump range then upping the thrusters makes life a bit easier.
Will be interesting to see how it turns out, but quite frankly running it with D thrusters it's so manoeuvrable that I can understand it being brought down a bit. Plus the yaw is such a pig already I don't see that dropping much further.
That happens. Quite a few times.