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Apple users have to justify their OTT outlay for what they're actually getting... so they usually wax lyrical about how awesome the user experience is and how the hardware is so stunning, etc, cos it makes them feel better about spending too much, relatively. ;)

You know I am no fan over the locked in syndrome of Apple phones, wouldn't trust them with anything personal, but I just checked out the updated interface for ios7 and I thought it was pretty good. Looks sharp, crisp and lets not forget that the smartphone market was created by Apple.

Its also impossible not to compare Windows and OSX. One is set back in the stone-age, the other one is liberating. The only reason any gamer is still using windows is because of directx.

Without Jobs, its looking like another decade of **** stagnation in the tech industry.
 
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Looks sharp, crisp and lets not forget that the smartphone market was created by Apple.

Without Jobs, its looking like another decade of **** stagnation in the tech industry.

Both myths, I'm afraid. Nokia invented the smartphone, and Apple had to settle hugely out of court with them for infringing on their innovations. What Apple mostly did was add style. The locked in App Store was also fundamental to their success.

New iOS looks pretty nice, mind. Sometimes just tweaking the existing package is all people want.

And having used fingerprint technology on laptops I think it's very handy as a convenience measure. A determined hacker will always get into your phone, so any sort of security is just to prevent mild misuse. The fingerprint is much more convenient and potentially more secure than a PIN number.
 
Both myths, I'm afraid. Nokia invented the smartphone, and Apple had to settle hugely out of court with them for infringing on their innovations. What Apple mostly did was add style. The locked in App Store was also fundamental to their success.
I think the poster said that Apple created the smartphone market, which isn't a myth.
 

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I've always considered the Sony TH55 to be an inspiration to the smartphone market.

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The only thing missing was the phone componant.

I've still got one in my bedside cabinet, great bit of kit in it's day.
 

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I'd say it was the Nokia 9000 which was one of the ones that sort of started things off.

I had one of those as well. :rolleyes:

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I'd say it was the Nokia 9000 which was one of the ones that sort of started things off.

I had one of those as well. :rolleyes:

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I suppose what I meant re the smartphone market is that before the iPhone, it was a niche area. Its true there were other devices that offered varying bits of present functionality but it was the iPhone that made the market a success by putting it all together in an intuitive and easy to use device. Something that is too easily understated.

Initially, Apple were ridiculed by some and many doubted it would become a popular device. Yep, don't like the locked in eco system (i.e. over controlled app store) of Apple but their UI has become the template used by all others.

The rest of the tech industry seems to want to imitate Apple products.
 
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Apple users have to justify their OTT outlay for what they're actually getting... so they usually wax lyrical about how awesome the user experience is and how the hardware is so stunning, etc, cos it makes them feel better about spending too much, relatively. ;)

I know not aimed at me directly but as this is a discussion forum, I thought I would discuss. ;-)

Each to their own I say. I encourage people to think about what decisions they make but where they end up is their own choice only.

On the issue of price, there is more to it than the book price. You have to consider amortisation and true value.
In my experience, you pay slightly more upfront but the shelf-life and stability compensate so overall it ends up being cheaper.
I hate shopping so in general I buy as infrequently as possible.

My first iMac lasted me 8 years as our sole home computer (still perfectly usable), the current one is just a child at only 2 years old and fully expect it to last at least as long.
Not had any hardware or software problems which is a main consideration for me as I don't want to do any administration at home. I write software for a living, get quite enough of during the day.
I don't think I over paid. I would not go so excited about it to call it awesome or stunning. It's a computer, a tool, that's all.

The laptops I get given for work, lets just say that they don't deliver the same experience.
 
On the issue of price, there is more to it than the book price. You have to consider amortisation and true value.
In my experience, you pay slightly more upfront but the shelf-life and stability compensate so overall it ends up being cheaper.

Meh, I don't buy it. I build my own PCs and they last forever, barring component failure (that can happen to any device). I have 10+ year old PCs that still happily chug along.

Apple hardware IS overpriced. Their software is a matter of taste and I don't like the taste so it loses on both fronts for me. I will admit that their hardware is often very pleasing to the eye (with obvious exceptions like the new Mac Pro ashtray) but I've never been very fashionable so I'd put price and MY user experience above that.
 
I am certainly not an Apple fan, but most people seem to have missed one very important thing - the new phone is 64bit. This is huge in terms of smartphone memory, yet it seems to hardly get a mention.
 
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