[SUGGESTION] Everyone should be using video capture as a Black Box

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
20150203: I have edited this original post for further clarity and to make it more neutral...

Idea

Use video capture software as your personal Black Box.

Reasons for recording...




"A picture (or video) speaks a thousand words"...

How to record video...

Download and use a utility such as MSI Afterburner. Setting it up is straightforward.

You don't even have to be recording video continuously - MSI Afterburner can pre-record (buffer) your video in RAM so that you don't need to be eating up gigabytes of disk space - you only record the amount of video that you need, so that
when something bad happens as mentioned above, you can instantly hit your hotkey to begin recording video - the
pre-recorded buffer will automatically be included in the recording.

Then you can upload the video to youtube, and include this evidence either to FDEV in your ticket you create for this,
and/or as a new topic within the forums - NOTE: Do Not Name And Shame On The Forums! It is verbotten. If you want to post video to the forums, blur out any identifying information on the video - you can search google on how to do this.

Finally...

Keeping a video recording when Something Goes Wrong allows you to replay the events leading up to it where you can see for sure what caused the thing that is bothering you. If for example, it's a suspected case of cheating, you then have video evidence you can give to FDEV for their analysis. If your ship blew up and you see no obvious reason for that - again, your video leading up to that could also be useful evidence to give to FDEV.

In short - using video recording as your ship's black box recorder is a very useful thing for you.
 
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Brad Avidro

Brad Avidro
That's a good idea (downloaded MSI), however some of these instances are such you don't have time to react and are unable to record unless you happen to be recording at the time it happens.
Plus even then if your stabbed in the back so to speak a video won't show the culprit unless they destroy you directly with their weapons. The tactic of causing the station to destroy you by utilising your PD system unfortunately doesn't give you the CMDR who instigated the attack.
 

blacky75

blacky75
I use fraps and 60 seconds loop recording. So as soon as I hit the record button, the past 60seconds are also on 'tape' ^^ I run it on RAMdisk, as it's quite ressource demanding as it writes continuously
 
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kelticfury

kelticfury
Brad Avidro said:
That's a good idea (downloaded MSI), however some of these instances are such you don't have time to react and are unable to record unless you happen to be recording at the time it happens.
Plus even then if your stabbed in the back so to speak a video won't show the culprit unless they destroy you directly with their weapons. The tactic of causing the station to destroy you by utilising your PD system unfortunately doesn't give you the CMDR who instigated the attack.
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I believe Shadowplay has an option to record the last 15 mins of gameplay
 

bAdbUd

bAdbUd
blacky75 said:
I use fraps and 60 seconds loop recording. So as soon as I hit the record button, the past 60 seconds are also on 'tape' ^^ I run it on RAMdisk, as it's quite ressource demanding as it writes continuously
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Don't any Video Recording tools take tons of resources? Are they not going to slow down your system. My current system is good for averaging 60 FPS but if I'm recording isn't that going to take a hit?

Is there a tool specifically for Nvidia Cards? Shadowplay is just for recording, is their one that people would recomend for all the stuff the MSI Afterburner one appears to do?
 

Jack Schitt

Jack Schitt
If your system has the requisite GPU and good storage bandwidth ShadowPlay can record the entire session in 4GB chunks with no noticeable performance loss. Just delete the unneeded files at the end of each day.

I've been doing this since alpha for bug reporting purposes but it's also handy for logging CMDR names should they do something to warrant going on The List. On the rare occasion I play in Open (I'm mostly in the Mobius group these days) if you see me flying lazy loops it's because I'm scanning incoming CMDR names for future reference. ;)

To be fair I haven't needed to take any names yet. I've been on the receiving end of plenty of non-RP PK activity (no chatter, just splatter) from which I've Sir Robined each time, but this had only ever happened in anarchies where anything goes.
 

worldoflard

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I'm doing that - using shadowplay on a 15m loop, with Ctrl-Shift-F10 to save the recording. I can do this after any epic battles and obviously if anything "weird" happens.
 

Roybe

Roybe
There we go! A new game play type! Video policeman. This game has such a schizophrenic community...as well as a paranoid one!

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Brad Avidro said:
Yep I know, I have an Nvidia card, so I downloaded Nvidia Experience, but when I tried to run it, it gave me a message that it couldn't run with this card.
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Shadow play is only available on the 600 (or maybe the 700?) tier cards only.
 

DB Cooper

DB Cooper
Brad Avidro said:
Tried that but for some reason my graphics card won't run Shadowplay, :(
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I use shadowplay. It is only for nvidia cards 600 and up and I have a gtx 750ti, so it works. You can use a hotkey to record up to the last 15 min of gameplay, I have mine set for 8 min, or you can set up another hotkey to keep recording till you hit it again. Also, you can record in game audio only or in game with microphone, so you can narrate what you are doing, great if you are doing a group thing. It is really Kool and it's free
 

Avago Earo

Banned
Avago Earo
Brad Avidro said:
Yep I know, I have an Nvidia card, so I downloaded Nvidia Experience, but when I tried to run it, it gave me a message that it couldn't run with this card.
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Same here. I think our GPU's aren't good enough (mine is EVGA GT 740 SC). It states in GeForce Experience which series' of cards are suitable for Shadow Play.
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
Brad Avidro said:
That's a good idea (downloaded MSI), however some of these instances are such you don't have time to react and are unable to record unless you happen to be recording at the time it happens.
Plus even then if your stabbed in the back so to speak a video won't show the culprit unless they destroy you directly with their weapons. The tactic of causing the station to destroy you by utilising your PD system unfortunately doesn't give you the CMDR who instigated the attack.
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As mentioned in my OP, MSI AFterburner can buffer your video in memory without recording, until you hit the record hotkey. This means you don't have to be burning disk space, and if something happens where you need to review it, simply hit the record hotkey and the last few minutes of video will be saved to disk.

As to your second point, yep, it probably won't give you the name of the CMDR who did it, but at least you'll have a record of what went on at the time.
 

Brad Avidro

Brad Avidro
Avago Ero said:
Same here. I think our GPU's aren't good enough (mine is EVGA GT 740 SC). It states in GeForce Experience which series' of cards are suitable for Shadow Play.
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Not sure what mine is I'm not at home at the moment, however it's in a laptop, runs the game ok but obviously not able to run Shadowplay.
 

Bigcheese

B
Genar-Hofoen said:
That was a well thought out and well written reply.
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Thank you. It really is quite the phenomenon, don't you think?

I mean there's 4 billion systems and multiple play modes, but let's go ahead and video document everything (even though it's avoidable) to further enhance our victim playing ability.

To be blunt, it's pretty pathetic. I mean the game is so easy and look at you guys. My goodness...
 

neXib

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Shadowplay can record the last 20 minutes at in-game resolution with hardly any framerate impact. It's amazing. I always have it on for the reasons you describe. It's also nice for just recording a bug or stuff like that.

Need to find another solution for when I'm in the rift though.
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
Bigcheese said:
Thank you. It really is quite the phenomenon, don't you think?

I mean there's 4 billion systems and multiple play modes, but let's go ahead and video document everything (even though it's avoidable) to further enhance our victim playing ability.

To be blunt, it's pretty pathetic. I mean the game is so easy and look at you guys. My goodness...
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I honestly see your point.

But recording the video would benefit both 'sides' as it were. Here's how...

Player A feels they were 'ganked' or 'griefed' by Player B, or that Player B claimed he was a pirate but just indiscriminately destroyed Player A.

Both players have a recording of those few minutes in dispute.

Turns out that Player A made some silly mistake, and that accused Player B was innocent all along, or turns out that Player B was legitimately playing a Pirate then Player A just started shooting at them, so, B's only choice was to destroy Player A after that.

It's not paranoia. It would probably help to reduce misunderstandings and subsequent fighting on the forums.
 
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