Depending on your trade route, it can be more profitable to scoop or to trade a few more units. Overall, $$$ / hour remains the only important data.
Python, fuel bill INSANE!!
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Depending on your trade route, it can be more profitable to scoop or to trade a few more units. Overall, $$$ / hour remains the only important data.
@OP - you might want to steer well clear of the Type-9 then.......If the Python fuel bill irks you then the Hippo's fuel bill will send you straight to the ER!
Yep, definitely depends on the route, which I why I said 'simple maths' calculate fuel cost vs loss of cargo
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I would propose that it shouldn't be. Fuel scoops should be for going out in the wild where the outposts aren't. They should be for explorers willing to risk a close dance with the sun to keep going into the Void. They shouldn't be for a staid trader in a space cow to add a few points to his profit margin. The fuel scoop is currently the most profitable thing you can do in the game if you're in an expensive ship; that's just weird.
IMO, it's a HUGE hole in the lore of the game when something that can be gathered so easily - the most abundant element in the universe - is so expensive. They should be handling the cost of ownership scaling more intelligently. Wear&tear, or how about docking fees? Sidewinders dock for free, and everything else has to pay a docking fee that scales up with the ship.
I don't guess I've ever paid attention to how much fuel I'm buying, just the credit amount. Wouldn't a ton of hydrogen get a viper much farther than it would a python?
I am missing something here George. If the larger ship uses more tons of fuel, then it would cost more to fill 'er up eh?
I don't know, but that's not really relevant. The size of the fuel tank is in tons. The Adder has an 8T tank. You can put the same tank in a T9 and filling it will cost MUCH more.
Oh I gotcha, yeah that's pretty silly then.
First rule of elite club, if you don't like your ship you can fly another ship.
Don't even make me start. I do like the ship I saved for, bought and fly now.
Yeah, a whopping great 120 seconds to fill to the my standard 75%.. T9 makes me 1.1 million per run on my route, takes 9 minutes, 11 minutes when I scoop on the second run. Am not in any hurry dude.
If I didn't scoop I would pay 150,000 credits every two runs, that's the cost of a Cobra every 20 minutes, rather keep the money thanks
I just do a quick descent at full throttle on every scoopable sun whilst aligning with the next waypoint - the scoop rate easily goes up to half a ton/s and it doesn't really cost me much time that way.
As for cargo space - of course it depends on the route, but I personally don't min/max - so I just do what I feel up to and fitted it as a comfortable allrounder accordingly. A class 5 scoop on a Python certainly is a bit of overkill and a smaller one would be superior from a profit/h POV, but I primarily fly ships to enjoy them and I don't enjoy waiting for my fuel tank to fill up, so it's just personal preference.
On a side note I downgraded my fuel tank to 16 tons so it doesn't get too heavy if I'd accidentally end up scooping to much.
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All these are just assumptions and vain conversation. It depends on the piloting skills how much the trade route takes time, for example, how many times you overshoot the station etc. But if someone wants to be sure whether or not the fuels scoop is "advisable" in theory, just do the calculations. It is simple. I won't bother, because I feel it intuitively that with my playstyle the scoop is absolutely essential (I don't want to be stuck with my Python in a place where there are no stations nor outposts for refuel). And even when on short routes, if I can save some 10k cr with a fuel scoop (C5) I would still need at least 1250cr profit per tonne in order to make that C5-scoop useless and unproductive. That is quite rare profit per tonne for short routes.
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How funny is this actually. Just another massive "fake" balancing act.... gg frontier
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Everyone keeps saying variations of this, but it's just not relevant. We're not talking about how fast a given ship uses fuel, but the cost to refil it. The T7 has the same size fuel tank as the Python. Which do you think costs more? Why?
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