Incorrect pad loitering warning

Last night I was docking in my cobra at Severin Orbital in Beta Pavonis after my first proper go at mining. It had been a very good experience compared to my previous attempts and I had a hold full of palladium, gold and silver. I also got attacked four times by pirates while I was mining away and had 80K in bounties to claim. For me this was a very big profit gaming session - despite being down to 60% hull after all the pirate fighting.

Received docking permission, flew through the letterbox a little slower than usual (but still "in the blue") and lined up on my pad. Immediately got a pad loitering warning. I was a bit surprised as I was very near the centre of the cylinder and going reasonably fast, but unconcerned since I had seen this before sometimes when skimming in low or slowing down early. However the warning didn't quickly clear as it usually does.

Oh oh, better thrust up a bit and get closer to the centre axis. Nope, still warning me. Crap crap crap, turn around and go back to the letterbox area - warning finally clears. Phew. Clumsily touched the end wall near the letterbox but my shields are OK. Now head back, at speed and centred on the axis - beep, pad loitering warning and the countdown resumes from where it left off last time.

There followed another bout of moving around trying to get to a clear space (my pad was right down the far end). Sometimes the warning would clear momentarily only to resume immediately. Even over my own pad the countdown continued. Right, discretion being the better part of valour and so forth - time to get out of here, just 8 seconds to go.

It is now a shame that I do not have video recording or even a screenshot because I proceeded to smear my cobra and all my precious metals on the side of the letterbox with one second to go. I'm sure it looked hilarious. It was so close I would probably have been shot by the station even if I had managed to fly straight! :)

Oh well. Instead of my multiple hundreds of thousands profit I had to pay my insurance fee. I've raised a ticket since I'm sure this was a bug - the detection boxes for the pads just did not seem to line up with what I could see on screen.

I was a bit annoyed last night, but that's life in the Elite Dangerous universe. I remember just how hard and brutally unforgiving the games of the 80's were - I like that Elite retains some of that ethos, while softening it with the insurance policy and auto-eject.

With all that metal in my hold and the bounties, my anxiety as I prepared to dock was palpable. The panic I started to feel when the above was happening was all too real. That's worth a bit of lost time as I go out and try again.

cheers

Ian
 
I had something like this happen me before. I noticed at one point that the blue notification of my pad number had gone - but there was no loitering warning. It has to be a bug because if you are in the station (not near any pads) you either have permission to dock and have a pad in which case, you should see your pad number in blue, or you don't have permission and you're trespassing in which case you should see the loitering countdown. In my case I saw neither, but did get the loitering countdown when approaching a pad. Being in a type 7, I just got the hell outta dodge pronto and requested docking permission - then all was well with the world.
 
Glad you got out! The pad loitering warning is different to the trespassing one - you can get it even when you have permission to dock just by hovering over the wrong pad. But normally it clears as soon as you clear the pad (and in this case I was nowhere near another pad).

Now you mention it, I had trouble finding my pad initially as the numbers were not appearing. They did appear after a few seconds. Shame I didn't record any video for the devs.
 
The other day I got a pad loitering warning while I was inside the hangar. I got a fine and a bounty before I managed to log out.
 
I get loitering message quiet often (even if I'm in constant move) but within a second it's superseeded by the "docking permission restored" message. It might be a bug this way or a very strict officer sitting in the control tower :)
But never had fine so far. And the station was only hitting me accidentally while I was sitting on the pad doing my business - the station was firing someone else and I got in the line of fire somehow. (Does the station get a bounty hitting me then?)
 
I was taking off. Pressed the wrong button and bumped the station. (small station external launch) As I am leaving the area I get a loitering warning and fined but I have already left and am speeding off. I am at the no fire zone limit when I get another warning and the fine is raised. What ever it is only 600 credits. I will pay it, cause every were I go now i am wanted. Every station I go to says I have no fines to pay. I even went back to the same station that fined me but it will not let me pay any fines. So now I am wanted. As I earn my living bounty hunting having all the cops shooting at you for no reason really sucks. WTFUDGE?
 
This seems to be a bug that appeared a couple of weeks ago, I first noticed it when I got a 'warning landing gear not deployed' as I flew into the station, lately most stations seem to give me the warning/restored blip about 1/3 of the way into the station flying along the central axis - I just ignore it and land.
 
When I get a loitering message in a station I just land as soon as possible which seems to sort it out. I have been fined a couple of times but better that than panicking and running around till you crash. I did that the first time it came up and decided not to do that again. That first time I must have hit every pad in the station as well as every wall when I hit boast in my blind madness. :)
 
My main issue was that I could not clear my wanted status. Sleutelbos was right. (for me anyways) logging out then back in cleared my wanted status.
 
I expect that this is not a bug as much as a sensitivity balancing issue. If your pad is third in a line of pads in a station, then you can get loitering warnings just for flying over the two other pads on your way to docking.
I've often picked these up when making my way to the correct pad. Normally they clear as soon as they appear, but I could easily see if you were in a less maneuverable ship, that you could easily be trapped into a loitering issue, even if you're just trying to dock sanely.
Avoiding the loitering altogether often involves a non intuitive route to your target pad IMO.
So I think that the warnings are too strict, but I guess it's intentional.
 
I expect that this is not a bug as much as a sensitivity balancing issue. If your pad is third in a line of pads in a station, then you can get loitering warnings just for flying over the two other pads on your way to docking.
I've often picked these up when making my way to the correct pad. Normally they clear as soon as they appear, but I could easily see if you were in a less maneuverable ship, that you could easily be trapped into a loitering issue, even if you're just trying to dock sanely.
Avoiding the loitering altogether often involves a non intuitive route to your target pad IMO.
So I think that the warnings are too strict, but I guess it's intentional.

It's definitely a bug - the warning happens when you're flying right down the middle of the station.

It would be interesting to see what ships this happens/doesn't happen in ... I'm in an asp, but I've had it happen in a type-6 too.
 
I'm located in the states, and use cellular wireless (broadband) for my internet connection.
Because of the uniqueness on the connection, I'll regularly see latency issues trigger loitering warnings, but do also see loitering-warnings unexpectedly... There was only one incident where I was "stuck" on a loading-crane at my PROPER landing-pad, and fortunately, was able to jettison away within seconds of it turning hostile. Any other warnings have lasted but a couple seconds.
 
I get loitering message quiet often (even if I'm in constant move) but within a second it's superseeded by the "docking permission restored" message. It might be a bug this way or a very strict officer sitting in the control tower :)
But never had fine so far. And the station was only hitting me accidentally while I was sitting on the pad doing my business - the station was firing someone else and I got in the line of fire somehow. (Does the station get a bounty hitting me then?)
I have the exact same. I usually see what pad i need to go to even if the number disapear. I take it easy if it doesnt show and dont go too low as i can move over the wrong pad on the way to mine. But when the warning comes i just thrust upwards/away and im cleared everytime. You just need to be a bit cautious.
 
same problem in basic starter craft. I am good at landing, the loitering warning was definately bogus. I wish I read this thread before i lost everything. I think the death penalty for loitering is a little extreme! Especially if one is clearly not committing the said offense.
 
The other day I got a pad loitering warning while I was inside the hangar. I got a fine and a bounty before I managed to log out.

Same just happened to me. First I got a loitering warning when entering the station, no idea why. I was doing my normal approach speed and wasn't taking my time. Warning cleared though and I proceeded to my pad. Docked and went inside the station. All of a sudden while gathering my bounties I hear the loitering warning and when I check I already have accumulated some 600cr in fines. (No bounty though) Again, I was INSIDE the hangar already. No idea how this could've been loitering. I paid it off and logged off immediately, but I hope it wont start again when I log in.
 
I had exactly the same thing. Loitering warning, while I was docked and inside the hanger. I just quit the game and reloaded before I got destroyed.
 
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