We deserve an Official answer from David Braben (I dont think he really knows what happened with 1.)

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Early stage ?!? I thought this was a full release. Is it stated in the home page or store that you're buying an early stage version of the game ?
 
We deserve an Official answer from David Braben
I dunno.

1) This wa a kickstarter project. You can't even demand that a kickstarter project deliver anything. Many haven't and that's just the way kickstarter is.
2) FD are supplying content, tweaks and bugfixes after the release of their game. That is not something they are obliged do. They could have made it DLC for cash just as well. Or just left it the way it came out in December.

There's nothing you can demand. You can ask. Nicely. And if you get then you can say "thank you" and if you don't then you can say "oh well". But that's about the size of it.
 
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The Beta wasn't to test bugs it was made to make the people that spent money on the beta originally to feel better about their purchase. This is the issue with all KS with a release version as well. You have to sell the new user a different product at a different price to make the KS worth it.
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That's not a problem im glad it KS but it's a reality
 
I dunno.

1) this wa a kickstarter project. You can't even demand that a kickstarter project deliver anything.

Wrong. Kickstarter has quite clear rules about delivery and procedures that have to be gone through with backers if deliverables are changed.
 
No-one deserves anything.
David has no obligation to answer your questions.
"I want" makes you sound like a child (maybe you are, I don't know)

Really?, Do you barely know what commerce rules stands for kid?, Their money, their houses, their cars, their jobs, every penny they have right now is because we bought a product, and we as consumers has the right to complain for this mistake.

Well I will make it easy for you, David Braven has a lot of 'Bosses' now, and he knows it.
 
The time of "participation" should have ended with 1.0 in december. A game thats *unplayable* in 1.1 LOL is far from being in a beta stage. It's not already there.

Sorry, but it isn't unplayable - I played it for hours last night in a Python no problem. You just find it not to your liking - hardly the same thing. If you were talking about day 1 of Alien: Colonial Marines, then you'd have some points, but a collision bug doesn't write the game off. They'll fix it soon enough*, same as Clipper bug or any other. Why release 1.1 with a reported bug? They have probably already branched the code for 1.2 Beta and don't want to back-track to 1.1 once more unless it's critical. It's easy to point the finger and criticise when you don't know the full picture.

You complained in your previous post about navigation fixes not being implemented, but didn't say what. Vague hand waving and generalising doesn't really tell us anything. Be specific about the bugs. Are they ticketed?

Saying you'll try Star Citizen instead. Well, imagine for a moment all the people who've posted rage threads here about recklessly boosting and crashing an unshielded ship with full cargo uninsured and how it's anyone's fault but theirs. Now image that x100,000 when they've all paid £100+ for the ship they just lost. That'll be the insane levels of nerd-rage we're going to see at SC. I feel genuinely sorry for Chris Roberts at what is likely to come.

*See updates thread: Collision fix incoming.
 
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I find it really pathetic who begin to argue attacking the grammar of the person who is writing .
Do you mean that the person is stupid because he has difficulty in writing ?
Since he probably know his language and part of your .. while you don't even understand a single word of his language ... I'd say he has much more culture than you.
Learn to respect others and to understand things .. even if they are buried under two or three spelling errors .
Maybe you feel less cool but at least you learn something .

+1 On This CMDR Aleena
 
Saying you'll try Star Citizen instead. Well, imagine for a moment all the people who've posted rage threads here about recklessly boosting and crashing an unshielded ship with full cargo uninsured and how it's anyone's fault but theirs. Now image that x100,000 when they've all paid £100+ for the ship they just lost. That'll be the insane levels of nerd-rage we're going to see at SC. I feel genuinely sorry for Chris Roberts at what is likely to come.

Ugh, this is why I will never get involved with video game development, or really anything that involves general consumers. B2B is the way to be. We can just put our account management team on the road anytime a release is botched. They wine and dine and get a contract extension for our software, LOL.
 
Why don't they just revert back to 1.07 in the meantime? Are they enjoying naive people to explode for no reason, thinking it's their fault?
 
Hello there

I paid for the game, I deserve Braben to come round to my house an explain in great detail everything he's ever done.

Especially about that damned LensLok I had to fiddle with in the 80's

Rdgs

LoK

Yeah, and... and... He can wash the bloody dishes while he's at it!

(because I deserve it!)

:p
 
Why don't they just revert back to 1.07 in the meantime? Are they enjoying naive people to explode for no reason, thinking it's their fault?

Or open up the beta server to everyone...that way people can at least play w/o worrying about losing all their progress.
 
Getting tired of the "entitled generation" that seem to be infesting the forums at the moment.
Getting tired of the 84 generation who are delusional about the state of the game.
Me too.

Sorry to highlight your bad grammar, but you questioned the intelligence of a group of people, so what do you expect in reply?

EDIT: And to be fair, I have spotted more wrong with your post than I pointed out here, but I think you get the point.
I find it really pathetic who begin to argue attacking the grammar of the person who is writing .
Do you mean that the person is stupid because he has difficulty in writing ?
Since he probably know his language and part of your .. while you don't even understand a single word of his language ... I'd say he has much more culture than you.
Learn to respect others and to understand things .. even if they are buried under two or three spelling errors .
Maybe you feel less cool but at least you learn something .
And these, kids, are the reasons why the mods keep closing threads all over the forums…
 
Learn to respect others and to understand things .. even if they are buried under two or three spelling errors .
You don't know me at all. I have lots of respect for people and understand a great deal. I quite happily forgive people's bad grammar and spelling.
 
That's physically impossible with the " I want it all, I want it now and I want it for free" generation.

No, it's coming from the 'we've seen game development done right and expect that moving forward' generation. If they took the worst game ever made and slapped the Elite title on it, you 84's would praise it as the best thing ever.
 
And these, kids, are the reasons why the mods keep closing threads all over the forums…
And yes, I deserve some criticism for my comment you qutoed here

How many of the moaners on here today will admit they deserved criticism? I'm guessing .... not many.
 
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Or maybe is it a pride problem to admit they released a broken unplayable version?
I'm certain there is a bit of an attitude there that says, ignore 90% of the forum, it is full of wackadoos and they'd be right to do so. I've pointed out that they have some communication problems/inconsistencies but the forums are a veritable mine field. They need to be extremely careful here and over time, I think they have gone towards keeping quiet as making statements has bit them in the rear a few times.
 
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