On reflection - An apology

[DoneWithFD]

I don't think you ever posted anything that wasn't "true", in the sense that it was much needed criticism of the current failings of the game. That you've re-discovered a way for you personally to have fun with the game again doesn't mean that the core issues have gone away.

Keep truckin'

 

[Commander Dave]

Well done dude.

 

[Tarman]

I don't think you ever posted anything that wasn't "true", in the sense that it was much needed criticism of the current failings of the game. That you've re-discovered a way for you personally to have fun with the game again doesn't mean that the core issues have gone away.

Keep truckin'

This has much less to do with the state of the game one way or the other; and much more to do with OPs personal mindset readjusting to be less nasty for his own sake. Except for POSTING THE LOVE BOAT THEME IN THAT OTHER THREAD THAT IS UNACCEPTABLY EVIL!

 

[gazzareth]

Great post, been playing so many hours now that I have to mix things up occasionally, either in ED - or have a week trying new things in KSP - be it a mission to somewhere or trying to figure out Spaceplane design. Then back to Elite and it feels fresh again.....

..... there is certainly much work for FD to do, but it will take time, I think the results will be worth the sticking with it.

 

[Corwyn]

I appear to have gathered a bit of a rubbish reputation recently (I'd say worse but the sweary filters don't allow it) especially for being on a constant downer on FD. I have to admit reading through the tripe I posted this week made me realise that I became that kind of forum poster I always despised, and when someone else called me out as a 'troll' I had to take a good look at some of what I posted. Given my job in the IT industry it didn't sit well with me personally nor even match what I'm known for. So I'd like to take the opportunity to apologise and will make sure I put in a few checks and balances on my end before I drop a reply on a thread from now on. Hell, I might even be positive about stuff for a change.

What I'd also like to say is that I've begun to enjoy the game a lot more by taking a break from the usual routines and mixing it up a little, I became frustrated with the pew pew so went back to trading and have actually enjoyed the calm and serenity of running a small trade route to myself. I do think if you stick to one thing in ED for too long you look for the bits that are broken on purpose to justify why you feel bored or unchallenged. This game isn't without its flaws, it has bugs, there are aspects I'd like to change that I think would work but I don't speak for the collective, and I guess I should learn a little more patience with this newborn after all it is like a child we're helping to raise here because of the long term investment.

So, summing up, I'm no troll but I acted like one, it won't be happening again. To FD: sorry for being so harsh. To Mods: sorry for being a pain. To you folks on here: sorry for being a . And to ED: I'll be pressing PLAY for a long time to come.

Best, DR

Good attitude, have some rep.

 

[Daffan]

I appear to have gathered a bit of a rubbish reputation recently (I'd say worse but the sweary filters don't allow it) especially for being on a constant downer on FD. I have to admit reading through the tripe I posted this week made me realise that I became that kind of forum poster I always despised, and when someone else called me out as a 'troll' I had to take a good look at some of what I posted. Given my job in the IT industry it didn't sit well with me personally nor even match what I'm known for. So I'd like to take the opportunity to apologise and will make sure I put in a few checks and balances on my end before I drop a reply on a thread from now on. Hell, I might even be positive about stuff for a change.

What I'd also like to say is that I've begun to enjoy the game a lot more by taking a break from the usual routines and mixing it up a little, I became frustrated with the pew pew so went back to trading and have actually enjoyed the calm and serenity of running a small trade route to myself. I do think if you stick to one thing in ED for too long you look for the bits that are broken on purpose to justify why you feel bored or unchallenged. This game isn't without its flaws, it has bugs, there are aspects I'd like to change that I think would work but I don't speak for the collective, and I guess I should learn a little more patience with this newborn after all it is like a child we're helping to raise here because of the long term investment.

So, summing up, I'm no troll but I acted like one, it won't be happening again. To FD: sorry for being so harsh. To Mods: sorry for being a pain. To you folks on here: sorry for being a . And to ED: I'll be pressing PLAY for a long time to come.

Best, DR

A troll is someone who hates on a game without evidence.

You were in the clear. people just call people trolls 4 teh lulz

Apologists are evil

 

[Caedere]

To FD: sorry for being so harsh. To Mods: sorry for being a pain. To you folks on here: sorry for being a .

As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many - so I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. Your post is a convenient example of a more general malaise, so you shouldn't take this as a personal attack.
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You say you're sorry, but how many players have you and your ilk cost this game? Many potential purchasers come to these forums before making a decision, so how much revenue have your ceaselessly negative posts cost FD - and by extension, how much content have you denied us as players? Feel free to make an estimate yourself - and if it's any more than zero, then at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.
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So, are you really sorry, or are you just posting empty words here to troll more attention from the forum? Because an apology without any attempt to redress the damage done is worse than pointless - it's insulting. Will you reimburse FD for their loss? If not, how will you make up for the damage done?
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I suspect that in fact you're unwilling to accept and correct the consequences of your actions - which makes any apology a simple evasion of responsibility.
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When people are held to account, they quickly learn to consider the consequences of their actions, before they act, rather than seeking to excuse themselves with hollow apologies after the fact.

 

[Anuranium]

Friendship drive engaged!

 

[Tarman]

As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many - so I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. Your post is a convenient example of a more general malaise, so you shouldn't take this as a personal attack.
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You say you're sorry, but how many players have you and your ilk cost this game? Many potential purchasers come to these forums before making a decision, so how much revenue have your ceaselessly negative posts cost FD - and by extension, how much content have you denied us as players? Feel free to make an estimate yourself - and if it's any more than zero, then at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.
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So, are you really sorry, or are you just posting empty words here to troll more attention from the forum? Because an apology without any attempt to redress the damage done is worse than pointless - it's insulting. Will you reimburse FD for their loss? If not, how will you make up for the damage done?
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I suspect that in fact you're unwilling to accept and correct the consequences of your actions - which makes any apology a simple evasion of responsibility.
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When people are held to account, they quickly learn to consider the consequences of their actions, before they act, rather than seeking to excuse themselves with hollow apologies after the fact.

Your sig is highly misleading.

 

[Drunk Si]

at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.

Not to the bloke who's saved his hard earned cash

 

[BlackReign]

I appear to have gathered a bit of a rubbish reputation recently (I'd say worse but the sweary filters don't allow it) especially for being on a constant downer on FD. I have to admit reading through the tripe I posted this week made me realise that I became that kind of forum poster I always despised, and when someone else called me out as a 'troll' I had to take a good look at some of what I posted. Given my job in the IT industry it didn't sit well with me personally nor even match what I'm known for. So I'd like to take the opportunity to apologise and will make sure I put in a few checks and balances on my end before I drop a reply on a thread from now on. Hell, I might even be positive about stuff for a change.

What I'd also like to say is that I've begun to enjoy the game a lot more by taking a break from the usual routines and mixing it up a little, I became frustrated with the pew pew so went back to trading and have actually enjoyed the calm and serenity of running a small trade route to myself. I do think if you stick to one thing in ED for too long you look for the bits that are broken on purpose to justify why you feel bored or unchallenged. This game isn't without its flaws, it has bugs, there are aspects I'd like to change that I think would work but I don't speak for the collective, and I guess I should learn a little more patience with this newborn after all it is like a child we're helping to raise here because of the long term investment.

So, summing up, I'm no troll but I acted like one, it won't be happening again. To FD: sorry for being so harsh. To Mods: sorry for being a pain. To you folks on here: sorry for being a . And to ED: I'll be pressing PLAY for a long time to come.

Best, DR

Respect for your humility, but to be painfully honest, FD is the one that owes all of us an apology. 4 patches in a single week (and the week is not over), with very little transparency from FD, should summon the wrath of all of us.

I have zero confidence in this game ever becoming a remote piece of what has been promised.

4 patches in one week.....4

 

[Driver]

Your sig is highly misleading.

In what way? It seems to be perfectly clear to me.

 

[BlackReign]

As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many -

No, the state of the game is what is souring the experience for many. The "repetitive negative feedback" has occurred as a result of "the repetitive incompetence and failures" by FD. No one should ever apologize for being mad about not receiving what they paid for. Blaming each other for the "negativity" gives FD a complete pass.

Simple: If the game was remotely what it was promised, we wouldn't even have this discussion. FD can't even keep their forums online....seriously!?!?

 

[V3teran]

Why are you apologising?
Respect and all that but no need to apologize for an opinion your entitled too.
Oh yeah there is no such thing as a troll never was back in 1984 either.
Its a modern geeky internet abbreviation made up by the Padawans that inhabit the super highway in the modern day of Video game entertainment.
There is no such thing so get a grip, turn your computer off and go outside and do something positive for yourself.

 

[Driver]

As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many - so I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. Your post is a convenient example of a more general malaise, so you shouldn't take this as a personal attack.
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You say you're sorry, but how many players have you and your ilk cost this game? Many potential purchasers come to these forums before making a decision, so how much revenue have your ceaselessly negative posts cost FD - and by extension, how much content have you denied us as players? Feel free to make an estimate yourself - and if it's any more than zero, then at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.
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So, are you really sorry, or are you just posting empty words here to troll more attention from the forum? Because an apology without any attempt to redress the damage done is worse than pointless - it's insulting. Will you reimburse FD for their loss? If not, how will you make up for the damage done?
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I suspect that in fact you're unwilling to accept and correct the consequences of your actions - which makes any apology a simple evasion of responsibility.
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When people are held to account, they quickly learn to consider the consequences of their actions, before they act, rather than seeking to excuse themselves with hollow apologies after the fact.

After reading the original post, I had similar questions about DRs sincerity. We'll just have to see how it goes.

 

[BlackReign]

Why are you apologising?
Respect and all that but no need to apologize for an opinion your entitled too.
Oh yeah there is no such thing as a troll never was back in 1984 either.
Its a modern geeky internet abbreviation made up by the Padawans that inhabit the super highway in the modern day of Video game entertainment.
There is no such thing so get a grip, turn your computer off and go outside and do something positive for yourself.

Harsh but solid...repped.

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As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many - so I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. Your post is a convenient example of a more general malaise, so you shouldn't take this as a personal attack.
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You say you're sorry, but how many players have you and your ilk cost this game? Many potential purchasers come to these forums before making a decision, so how much revenue have your ceaselessly negative posts cost FD - and by extension, how much content have you denied us as players? Feel free to make an estimate yourself - and if it's any more than zero, then at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.
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So, are you really sorry, or are you just posting empty words here to troll more attention from the forum? Because an apology without any attempt to redress the damage done is worse than pointless - it's insulting. Will you reimburse FD for their loss? If not, how will you make up for the damage done?
.
I suspect that in fact you're unwilling to accept and correct the consequences of your actions - which makes any apology a simple evasion of responsibility.
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When people are held to account, they quickly learn to consider the consequences of their actions, before they act, rather than seeking to excuse themselves with hollow apologies after the fact.

If my posts have succeeded in causing another gamer to avoid this purchase, I'm proud of that. After all, the net is full of fanboys and "pro review sites" of your "ilk" that do an outstanding job of luring gamers to spending money on this dumpster fire.

I've been a supporter and a critic of ED/FD when appropriate. But after this week, I cannot deny the truth about where this game is heading. You keep on misleading people so you can have more easy kills.

Gamers of your "ilk" are whats wrong with the consumer side of the gaming industry.

 

[Flyinpiranha]

As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many - so I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. Your post is a convenient example of a more general malaise, so you shouldn't take this as a personal attack.
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You say you're sorry, but how many players have you and your ilk cost this game? Many potential purchasers come to these forums before making a decision, so how much revenue have your ceaselessly negative posts cost FD - and by extension, how much content have you denied us as players? Feel free to make an estimate yourself - and if it's any more than zero, then at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.
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So, are you really sorry, or are you just posting empty words here to troll more attention from the forum? Because an apology without any attempt to redress the damage done is worse than pointless - it's insulting. Will you reimburse FD for their loss? If not, how will you make up for the damage done?
.
I suspect that in fact you're unwilling to accept and correct the consequences of your actions - which makes any apology a simple evasion of responsibility.
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When people are held to account, they quickly learn to consider the consequences of their actions, before they act, rather than seeking to excuse themselves with hollow apologies after the fact.

What a terrible post. Opinions are just that. Even with my playtime I can't reccomend this game to anybody unless they wanted exactly what it offers. If my friends asked knowing what they enjoy? Nope. Sorry. This game is a great base but its not a full experience yet.

Honestly, losses, reimbursement? This is laughable. Any person who reads a forum and decides based on the negativity has made a decision based on others opinions. That's their choice.

How can you even say stuff like that and be serious. It's not slander. Nothing was untrue. This type of blind aggression and "FD can do no wrong" attitude is not healthy.

I'll admit I was posting with Emotion Assist off so I was all over the place, but everything I post is my opinion and I stand by it.

 

[Lovecraft]

As some have already mentioned, the recent deliberate and repetitive negativity has soured the experience for many - so I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here. Your post is a convenient example of a more general malaise, so you shouldn't take this as a personal attack.
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You say you're sorry, but how many players have you and your ilk cost this game? Many potential purchasers come to these forums before making a decision, so how much revenue have your ceaselessly negative posts cost FD - and by extension, how much content have you denied us as players? Feel free to make an estimate yourself - and if it's any more than zero, then at £40 a pop, you concur that you've caused real, tangible loss.
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So, are you really sorry, or are you just posting empty words here to troll more attention from the forum? Because an apology without any attempt to redress the damage done is worse than pointless - it's insulting. Will you reimburse FD for their loss? If not, how will you make up for the damage done?
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I suspect that in fact you're unwilling to accept and correct the consequences of your actions - which makes any apology a simple evasion of responsibility.
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When people are held to account, they quickly learn to consider the consequences of their actions, before they act, rather than seeking to excuse themselves with hollow apologies after the fact.

Maybe you were thinking of the current Australian PM when you typed this, in which case I sympathise, but this was still one of the most ridiculous posts I've read around here. Content he has denied the players? Where do you come up with this stuff? :/

OP: It's good you're enjoying the game again. I would hope that you'll still be able to think critically without letting it get it to you in future though. The problem with expressing critique on these boards is that you'll be met with waves of derision and attacks on your character, but it shouldn't dissuade you from being honest with yourself. As long as you're honest and aren't acting out of malice, you shouldn't feel bad at all- everyone has a right to their opinion, and shouldn't be made to apologise for it..

 

[LeetNoob]

Oh, touché...

ok I don't want to be aggresive but if someone apologises just accept it. If you don't beleive him just look at his post history. He's genuine.
What I can't stand is this idea that it's his negative posting to blame for poor sales for this game. Elite will get exactly the amount of sales and revenue it deserves. In fact, looking how games sales work, like all games, it will actually get more than it deserves. If the game doesn't last, it's because it's not good enough.

 

[N6MAA10816]

I bought this from Amazon....


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