Without a fuel scoop?
With, as your only purpose in life, to interdict and murder people?
Even piracy this far from civilization would be a silly idea.
Destroyed by an NPC on the way home after 2 weeks exploring... did I do something wrong?
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Without a fuel scoop?
With, as your only purpose in life, to interdict and murder people?
Even piracy this far from civilization would be a silly idea.
It's not a question of whether or not they could (though they couldn't without a fuel scoop). The issue is that there's no logical reason for a pirate to go hunting for explorers in the middle of nowhere. It's like getting mugged by crackhead in a forest in Alaska. It just makes no sense.
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What prevents an npc from fitting a scoop? I think fdev could code that bit in if they really wanted. Also, if I recall correctly there are three types of npc A.I. : Pirate, Bounty hunter, and Psychopath. Most eagles fit into the "psychopath" category.
So - where better for a psychopath to live then the fringes of civilization?
Yes, totally unrealistic therefore unfair. To be objective, 1.1 basically broke the game as the design behind interdiction was not fixed or evolved prior to updating frequency of NPC interdictions.
I can not get my head around the minority who believe that 1.1 fixed things. Now it feels I'm playing a Spectrum game, in which I need to overcome the programed parameters. Theres no opportunity for immersion at all at the moment.
Nothing you are right and that is the point : we know NPCs in the twilight zone do not have fuel scoop equipped (thank you Mr scanner) and fly alone without supply ship --> they are cheating.
edit : even more obvious when you are fighting a lone Eagle 400 LY from the next starbase without any ELW/TWW around.
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A lot better than 100 Ly from any civilization whatsoever.
Most NPC's that interdict in general seems to fit into the ''psychopath'' archetype, or the ''pirate who doesn't know how to scan'' archetype.
Do you not think that this is wrong?
Nothing, AFAIK - but these NPCs do not have them.
Hmm, yes. It seems that pirates also turn into psychopaths if they interdict somebody who doesn't have a cargo hold. That might actually be worth investigating more carefully, there's probably a bug report in there with some evidence. (at least prior to 1.1, pirates used to let you go if they scanned you and found you had an empty cargo hold. Has this changed in 1.1, or does finding that you have *no* cargo hold send them into a fit of murderous rage? ;-))
You aren't going to run into psychopaths in the middle of Antarctica anymore than you will run into anyone else.
You've never seen The Thing...?
I can't help but feel that the current implementation is a placeholder to simulate danger where there is none. The big disconnect here is you're presented with a game that attempts realism but makes a huge concession in favor of 'exciting' game play. From a logical perspective, does the current approach to NPC piracy make sense at all? Not really. The simple fact is that the NPCs do not exhibit any behavior that simulates rational thought. If you were a pirate, would you be hanging out 100LY away from civilized space? No. Would you be attempting an interdiction in secure system? No. You'd be hanging out in anarchy systems along established trade routes in colonized space with about ten of your buddies. There is no consideration of risk vs. reward when designing NPC encounters and it's jarring. To be attacked more than one jump away beyond the civilized space is beyond absurd. The explanations provided (marooned explorer, prospectors defending a new claim, etc) are so statistically miniscule that they are laughable. That's why I can't help but think the developers have taken this all into consideration and what we have is just a placeholder.
There are so many other environmental dangers and miscalculations that could be fabricated for exploring to make it exhilarating, and I hope this kind of thinking makes it way into the future of ED. Even trading within secure systems could have so many other risks other than piracy. I hope for the sake of realism and more importantly gameplay variety other ideas are taken into consideration and ultimately implemented.
There are so many other environmental dangers and miscalculations that could be fabricated for exploring to make it exhilarating, and I hope this kind of thinking makes it way into the future of ED. Even trading within secure systems could have so many other risks other than piracy. I hope for the sake of realism and more importantly gameplay variety other ideas are taken into consideration and ultimately implemented.
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I just put the "data capsule" idea in a suggestion thread here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=114845
This happened to me also, in an adder, I had B class shields at the time and I was returning after a 2 week journey to California nebula is it? I got to the outskirts and then returned instead of going further out, I was concerned at the loss of all my data due to being interdicted every time I fuel scooped.. I had almost made it back when boom by npc.. I forget what he was flying but it happened so fast he mnust have been using some seriously overcharged weapons ( are these still ingame btw?). I rage quit ofc and insteads of putting me off the game its just put me of exploring for a bit.. Although the claim name thing is kinda enticing me to try again.. Its amazing how far explorer equipped haulers and adders can reach really, considering how cheap they are..