Hardware & Technical And so... I must retire the flight stick for now...

Shyeer Alvarin

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But not for the reasons you think!

Turns out that the vast majority of system instability issues I've been having are because the fan that came with my CoolerMaster Hyper212 aftermarket CPU cooler went bad. For those wondering If ED -can-do run with what is now a passive heat sink the answer is Yes. But only If it's something like... 130mm tall just on the radiator.

So, coupling the dead CPU fan with a shockingly powerful (and Hot!) R9-290x... I'm opting for a semi-custom loop watercooling solution.

It also just happens that the watercooling supplies will arrive roughly the same time as my Oculist Rift.

Happy hunting folks! Looking forward to flying again.
 

Shyeer Alvarin

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I would strongly recommend that anyone coming up with audio errors like tearing or stuttering to check CPU loads and system temperatures. I didn't even know until I popped my case open to take a look at the internal real estate.
 

KillingTime

KillingTime
Shyeer Alvarin said:
But not for the reasons you think!

Turns out that the vast majority of system instability issues I've been having are because the fan that came with my CoolerMaster Hyper212 aftermarket CPU cooler went bad. For those wondering If ED -can-do run with what is now a passive heat sink the answer is Yes. But only If it's something like... 130mm tall just on the radiator.

So, coupling the dead CPU fan with a shockingly powerful (and Hot!) R9-290x... I'm opting for a semi-custom loop watercooling solution.

It also just happens that the watercooling supplies will arrive roughly the same time as my Oculist Rift.

Happy hunting folks! Looking forward to flying again.
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They use standard 120mm case fans though, if you don't care about noise you can pick one up from Maplin for a tenner tomorrow! http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/coolermaster-120mm-sickleflow-red-led-case-fan-n81qq

Sorry about the red LEDs, I've never understood why people want lights on the inside of their PC!
 

Shyeer Alvarin

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I'm actually in the US. I've been looking into watercooling for a while but I haven't had the kind of hardware requirements or failures to justify the cost. (600 bucks for dual bay reservoir/pump combo, 1x 2x120 radiator, 1x 3x120 radiator, mounting bracket for the back of the case for the triple radiator, full coverage VGA block/heatsink, universal CPU block.)

The fans on Gigabytes Windforce triple fan OC edition R9 290x do not keep the card cool enough to run stable without maxing the fan RPM for gaming. Elite will run for 15 minutes before the computer shuts down from thermal overload.

Come to think of it... it acts an awful lot like an all laser Asp.

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KillingTime said:
They use standard 120mm case fans though, if you don't care about noise you can pick one up from Maplin for a tenner tomorrow! http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/coolermaster-120mm-sickleflow-red-led-case-fan-n81qq

Sorry about the red LEDs, I've never understood why people want lights on the inside of their PC!
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And... I live in the boonies to boot. There's no computer stores in town where I live that I can go pick up the stuff I meed and have people know what I'm using it for.
 

BishopC

BishopC
Yah, ED is the only game that ever shut down my pc coz of a heat stroke, and I game a lot of different games. Especially inside the hangar, the gpu is COOKING.
 

OamodSias

OamodSias
Watercooling is pointless, imho. Any good aftermarket CPU cooler can do the job just as well.

The only thing I like about watercooling, is how it looks. :D
 

Shyeer Alvarin

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It'll be... different. I've never watercooled a rig before, so it's going to be very stressful. I'm hoping it'll end up being quieter than the 9 fans running in my computer right now (minus the dead one.)
 

KillingTime

KillingTime
OamodSias said:
I'm getting myself one of these soon,
View attachment 15229 - Corsair Carbide Air 540
pumping her with 5 of these:
View attachment 15230 - Corsair SP140, 140mm, Black with Red LED

- then going I'm test her db and add sound-deadening. I was going to go for something like this:
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but I was told that unless I'm doing over-clocking and what not, it's really not needed. So I'm sticking with my current one. :)
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Haven't you got that the wrong way round... an AIO (All In One) cooler doesn't usually offer much better cooling performance than a good HSF. A full blown water loop is what you go with for serious overclocking or you just like to play with PCs and have the itch to tinker with things like I do!
 
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Shyeer Alvarin

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I went with the Alphacool watercooling loop stuff. I only have enough internal room in my GS-6600 for the dual 120 mounted to the top of the case. I'm pretty much running the CPU on the dual and the GPU on the triple.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/alphacool-nexxxos-cool-answer-240-d5-xt-set.html
Plus the full VGA card block by alphacool for the 290.
I mean to push my 8350/290x as far as I can. I'm gonna have to for the Rift I think.
 
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OamodSias

OamodSias
KillingTime said:
Haven't you got that the wrong way round... an AIO (All In One) cooler doesn't usually offer much better cooling performance than a good HSF. A full blown water loop is what you go with for serious overclocking or you just like to play with PCs and have the itch to tinker with things like I do!
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Only repeating what I was told. :) I wanted an AIO, but my source said there's no point unless you're planning to OC. Perhaps he's mistaken. I just think they look awesome and wanted one. xD


Edit: If there's no real cooling performance difference, then I might as well get one ... :D
 
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KillingTime

KillingTime
OamodSias said:
Only repeating what I was told. :) I wanted an AIO, but my source said there's no point unless you're planning to OC. Perhaps he's mistaken. I just think they look awesome and wanted one. xD


Edit: If there's no real cooling performance difference, then I might as well get one ... :D
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AIOs are good, they're usually quieter and some offer better cooling performance than HSFs. The corsair H100i which you shown in your pics is certainly one of the better ones. Their H60/H70s are going to be on par with good HSFs but I think something like the Dark Rok Pro series of HSF's (that's Heat-Sink and Fan BTW) will be as good or better.

AIOs may be rated for 150W or so since they operate in a well controlled environment and only have to cool a single device.

Custom water loops however have almost unlimited potential due to being custom in nature. I certainly won't say don't go for it as that's what I have in my PC but it can be a huge money sink! For example I have 2x pumps, 2x 420mm radiators, CPU and 3x GPU water blocks in mine and the water cooling parts alone probably cost more than what most people would spend on a PC! As I said money pit!

With this however, I can keep my components around 40-50 deg C under full load including overclocking.

An AIO water cooling setup is much cheaper, you don't need to worry about replacing the coolant, bleeding the system, reservoirs etc and it should just work. You also get the benefit that if you add more they're all independent (although since the specific heat capacity of water is quite large, multiple hot components in series doesn't matter too much).

Also, I'm not sure but from the looks of your pictures you wanted to have an external radiator/pump box? There are certainly advantages to this approach (namely not having to fit radiators and pumps inside your case) but it can be a pain to move your computer as you need to disconnect hoses etc.

Anyway, don't let that put you off a custom loop if you want, they offer good performance and are fun to set up if you like that sort of thing.

If you want any more info I'm happy to share my experiences.

If you're not careful... this can happen:
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