HELP - dont know what just happened

starsphinx

starsphinx
I have just died and I dont know why what happened happened.

I had flown into a system showing as unexplored to me - started scooping while scanning the star with heat about 98%. Scooping and scanning finished so I went to the navigation screen to target the next nearest unexplored body for scanning and saw there was a USS - so targeted that instead ( I had found an unfortunate wreck with some canisters of prototype tech floating around and being a good citizen I scooped them up hoping to find one of those big tech boys that hangs around to give such things good homes). So I am still in SC at 30km/s - and my temp which had been stable starts going up like a rocket. I am trying to fly away from the star but not getting anywhere - the speed would not go up although the temp was still climbing. I try untargeting, still trying to get away and crack the canopy goes and a few seconds later "EJECT".

That is 9 tons of gold, 6 tons of prototype tech, and a 3/4 tricked out Cobra gone and I do not know why. Was this a glitch or something on an update that previously escaped my attention (I was doing the same thing yesterday and had no problems in the same situation).

Any ideas anyone?
 

catanonia

C
Did you hit silent running instead of cargo scoop retract ? I would guess at this by your description and the fact your were scooping.

Did you fall into the stars gravity well ? Can't make out from your post if you were near the star.
 
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Mysturji

Mysturji
Did you use your discovery scanner?
Did you then check the system map?
Was there a black hole nearby? Maybe you fell into it.
 

Almighty Bob

Banned
Almighty Bob
Was the USS still within the stars scooping range ( IE near by). You must have dropped out of SC to scoop the goodies. When you tried to go into SC again the extra heat produced fries you
?
 

starsphinx

starsphinx
Definitely did not hit silent running - it is a button on the HOTAS and I was not cargo scooping - had scooped a couple of systems back and was heading for an anarchy to sell as I am not good at fast docking. However I did check and had a full heat signature.

I arrived - could see the star was scoopable so waited until scooping started and dropped speed right down as usual - heat settled around 98%.
Used discovery scanner - cant remember what it showed but nothing unusual as the system was one with a station - it was the anarchy mentioned above. Obviously I was not going to be first discoverer but credits are credits and if the game wants to pay me for scanning a system with a station I am not going to argue.

Scooping finished as tanks were full - I was pointing directly at the star doing a detailed surface scan but heat steady as when scooping.
I bring up the nav screen select the USS and lock target return to main view and start to move to point at target - alarms started going off at this point about heat so I concentrate on getting the star at my back and throttle up to leave as fast as possible only not a lot happens - I had not dropped out of SC so not the gravity thingy (that has happened before and the heat always reduced as soon as I was out of SC) but was going nowhere - my control was showing throttle maxed out but speed only just off minimum and my heat was still going up through the roof. At this point I checked heat signature in case had somehow accidentally gone silent. Tried using the heat sink but nothing happened from the tied button.

The big problem is because I do not know why what happened occurred I do not know how to avoid it happening again and this makes me very reluctant to launch again.

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Hyperlethal said:
LOL seriousely the wreckage was not a clue as to what that tech does?
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Sorry for the confusion the wreckage was a couple of systems back - had collected it and was heading for another system. At the system this happened at I had not dropped out of SC.
 

starsphinx

starsphinx
I dont think it was a flare - I have been caught by those before and although they make me go "oh wow" they did not seem to affect the ship if outside the yellow gravity warning line.

Could this have been a glitch?
 

Traven Mayhem

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dunno but one thing i have noticed: you build up a lot more heat in SC than out when in a stars corona

if and when i have sudden unexpected heat issues the first thing i do is drop out of SC: this usually brings heat down. then shut down non-esssential modules to conserve heat and jump away -- drop a heatsink just before kicking in the hyperdrive to avoid pushing the thermal limit above 150%
 

CMDR Arni Sigurdsson

CMDR Arni Sigurdsson
Sounds like you stayed too long close to the sun and the getaway from the sun
happened too late...and the hull payed the price.
Happened to me 2 or 3 of times, specially with smaller ships.
 
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starsphinx

starsphinx
Traven Mayhem said:
dunno but one thing i have noticed: you build up a lot more heat in SC than out when in a stars corona

if and when i have sudden unexpected heat issues the first thing i do is drop out of SC: this usually brings heat down. then shut down non-esssential modules to conserve heat and jump away -- drop a heatsink just before kicking in the hyperdrive to avoid pushing the thermal limit above 150%
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Will bear that in mind if it happens again - I am just nervous as I dont mind screw ups on my behalf but hate it when I do not understand what went wrong.

arniingi said:
Sounds like you stayed too long close to the sun and the getaway from the sun
happened too late...and the hull payed the price..
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If I was too close too long the heat would have been going up steadily while scooping but it was not - my heat was stable at the point I targetted the USS. I am actually a careful flyer and do watch all these things which is what is doing my head in. If it was a mistake I made I would not worry but I cannot see what went wrong
 

Tenshi

Tenshi
Even with the throttle at minimum you are still moving at 30Mm/s towards that star. So if you had scooped fuel and was pointing at the star with 0 throttle this is what would cause you the problem as you had gone to far into the corona of the star and could not escape the gravity well in time before the hull broke.

I have a habit when scooping fuel never look at anything else until the scooping is done. Once done pull up and away from the star and let it go blue on my scanner and then throttle down to 0. Other than a interdiction I know my ship is then safe to look at nav panels and galaxy map.
 

starsphinx

starsphinx
The throttle at minimum while scooping/scanning thing is something I have done a huge number of times before - and on the occasions where I misjudged I was able to throttle up and get out (9 times out of 10 without taking any damage). There was one occasion of an interdiction near a star that I went up to 450% + heat and came out alive (limping with my canopy gone and hull at 8% thanking whatever gods there were that I had fully uprated my life support to A3 I think it is on the cobra and so had 25 minutes of oxygen and a station that was only a couple of hundred light seconds away) so I can get myself out of scrapes but just nothing was happening with this - I could not even move beyond scooping distance.
 

starsphinx

starsphinx
Well its always best to get back on the horse as they say (I will note that in real life this means having no nice mounting block and having to inelegantly struggle to ground mount but that is another story) so working on best practice of assuming worst case scenario I am going to shut down my machine, reboot, and launch again and see if it happens again and if I can work out what the hell it was. I will let people know.
 
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