I left mine where I upgraded. Saves me from losing everything if there is a DB dump or station destruction. All my eggs in one basket mentality.
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I left mine where I upgraded. Saves me from losing everything if there is a DB dump or station destruction. All my eggs in one basket mentality.
No, just no. Traders don't risk much right now IMO (I switched to exploring from trading), especially with how interdictions work. Same can be said for true explorers going for the maximum range. Earnings should be proportional for time invested and effort, as well as the risk. When I was trading in my Type 6, I was making roughly 250k on bidirectional runs that took roughly 20 to 30 minutes in total to do the run. Doing that for a couple of hours was way more profitable and less costly maintenance wise (but far less enjoyable) than exploring. If I explore a system fully chart everything (ice planets and asteroid belts) it can take almost the same amount of time as that trading run that I was doing, but earn far less monetarily even though more effort and time were required. Add to that the time I get interdicted when travelling within "known" space (within roughly 500ly of the core systems), it becomes more of a labor of love rather than a profession/job in the game. Going out to chart systems as an explore isn't a short term travel experience, it is days at a time and requires a lot of patience.
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IMO People who choose the life of a Pirate or BH (and to an extent explorers) should expect to earn less, they get action instead of constant grinding and listening to your favourite album, which many people like, including me.
It's just like in real life or movies. The guys doing business are making the big money and a private detective can hardly afford his apartment.
Talk about attention seeking! Create an account just so we can all watch you flounce off in a huff!
Never mind things are so much cheaper in Farmville
Make money in ED? Is terrible!
making money in real life = hard work... that's terrible as well
what's the point of this thread... a rant?... just someone who wants a quick fix?
if you're leaving ... can I have your stuff ?
ty in advance
Making money in the game is terrible. A good sandbox would be enjoyable to play and reward you appropriately.
As it is, if you dislike trading, you are looking at several months of grinding combat zones.
You can literally hit Elite in combat before you can afford to outfit a Python.
On top of that, after the Asp its just a massive grind wall of nothing to the T7.
One profession worth doing in this game, everything else slaps you in the face, how dare you do anything other than trade?
Its not that trade is slightly more efficient, its leaps and bounds better than the alternatives, the only profession that scales, and is the most mind numbing thing you can do in the game. This is a sign of a flawed sandbox. Choice is an illusion here, as the alternatives that are not only more risky and fun to do, have Korean levels of Grinding in order to get anywhere. There is no sense of reward in this game, it only pays like a job would. Any fun you can possibly have nets you a loss for your time spent. At the end of the day, you either trade, or never pass the Asp.
Dont even get me started on expenses post Asp that encourages trade alone.
As it is, if you dislike trading, you are looking at several months of grinding combat zones.
You can literally hit Elite in combat before you can afford to outfit a Python.
On top of that, after the Asp its just a massive grind wall of nothing to the T7.
One profession worth doing in this game, everything else slaps you in the face, how dare you do anything other than trade?
Its not that trade is slightly more efficient, its leaps and bounds better than the alternatives, the only profession that scales, and is the most mind numbing thing you can do in the game. This is a sign of a flawed sandbox. Choice is an illusion here, as the alternatives that are not only more risky and fun to do, have Korean levels of Grinding in order to get anywhere. There is no sense of reward in this game, it only pays like a job would. Any fun you can possibly have nets you a loss for your time spent. At the end of the day, you either trade, or never pass the Asp.
Dont even get me started on expenses post Asp that encourages trade alone.
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I have to disagree totally with this. I have a full-time job. I enjoy playing evenings and weekends. The game has only been out for about 7 weeks, for crying out loud! I've been playing since 5th Jan and I am just about up for buying a Python (albeit a very bare bones one if I decide to trade in my Clipper). I don't expect an Anaconda for another 3-6 months. Then I can start saving for my extra ships (Explorer-kitted Asp, Fer-de-Lance, etc). Think how long it takes playing any MMO to get your 'Legendary' gear... why should ED be any different?
To the guy with the 9M cr Sidey. Why the refinery if you don't have a cargo hold or mining laser ? Surely a waste of an equipment slot ! o_0
I'm pretty much exactly the same as you... Full time job (sometimes with long periods overseas when I can't really play at all) and only playing weekends and evenings. I'm just about up to the level of being able to get a Python but won't really be able to kit it out much if I do. Don't mind having to wait for the bigger ships or high spec equipment for the smaller ships... just makes you appreciate it all the more when you finally get there.
I disagree... entirely.
A trader can easily take some goods from A to B without seeing a single battle. It's easy to escape interdictions.
A bounty hunter is always risking the ship in the hunt for high payout bounties, always in battle.
Pirates risk even more, by bounty hunters hunting them, and on top of that NPC police chasing them down.
For the same reason someone would equip a combat Asp with discovery equipment
Not really.
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The action in this game is nearly as grindy as trading, so yay!!!
Sometimes I fit a detailed scanner to my Asp, and go walkabout. I have the weaponry to defend myself, but I want to not only take a wander, but earn while doing so.
Hm. "Easy to escape"... well, usually yes. But not always, and it depends on whether the interdicting ship can mass lock you. However, bear in mind that your average hunter will be in a Viper or a Cobra. Let's say a Cobra to be charitable. Fully-specced, that's about 10M, or 500k insurance replacement. Now take your average trader in a Type 7. Ship value around 24M (1.2M insurance) plus uninsured cargo of around 2.5M (for Palladium). So over 7x the payout for getting blown up. THAT is where the trader's extra 'risk' comes from, along with the fact that, if he does get intercepted, he has no practical defense other than the hope that he can run away.
Why are you seeing bounty hunting and piracy as grinding? If you just want the biggest ship instead of playing the game, then yes, trade.
Yep, the game is what you make it. I've been having fun building my rep and rank, trying mining, doing high paying missions opportunistically, bounty hunting at RES and helping my home faction take over it's corner of the universe. All in a Cobra. I've probably put in more hours than I did in Skyrim by now. Someone is always going to have more stuff than you, I hope you're not going through RL with the same perspective.
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again rubbish its the mechanics of security that should make it a risk or not more secure system should equal less profitable but extremely safe less secure system should equal more profitable but risky at the moment its no where near that and that why trading is the winner at the moment