once you look at it, it just starts piling up, eh?
Issue with exploration data
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once you look at it, it just starts piling up, eh?
Sounds very similar. Could well be symptoms of the same bugs reported in multiple other threads.
I found a few systems over the weekend which had been discovered by someone else, but there was a few planets that hadn't been discovered. I sort of assumed the first discoverer had a used a low range discover scanner and missed them.
When I sold the data, I didn't get the first discovered by bonus when I sold these system. Now thinking back I do remember the original discoverer had discovered the moons belonging to the planet, but not planet - which is odd considering a planet is easy to spot compared with a moon.
Will dig out the screenshot and system name later.
When I sold the data, I didn't get the first discovered by bonus when I sold these system. Now thinking back I do remember the original discoverer had discovered the moons belonging to the planet, but not planet - which is odd considering a planet is easy to spot compared with a moon.
Will dig out the screenshot and system name later.
Yup, very similar experience for me exploring, a system that seemed scanned by someone else but with a few obvious missed objects. For example a large gas giant with 6 moons. The moons were tagged as discovered but the gas giant was not which is extremely unlikely for someone not to scan the gas giant but to go much closer and do the moons.
Either way, I am confident that they are being scanned and logged at the server at scan time and therefore they are in the database and it is just a matter of FD sorting out the paper work. So confident, that I have headed off out again, this time for 3 weeks instead of my 1st 1 week trip.
I've run into this bug, as well. However, I can't help but to wonder if perhaps the reason we don't get credit for unexplored objects that do not have a "discovered by" tag is because someone else did scan it first but died before selling the data. If that isn't a possibility then I'll submit a ticket also (with a video detailing the issue). I just want to be sure before ticketing.
Not sure this would follow. I have scanned systems (see my previous posts) and only had 13 out of X credited. The thing is I had some credited and if someone else had scanned and died, I would not have had any credited.
I read on another post that someone noticed in the sell window a maximum buffer of 13 items, this might be the case of a simple bug in the sell mechanics. I really hope so as I am off exploring again for a few weeks.
If you have information (screenshots, reproducible case, video, etc) then don't even think, just ticket. If all you have are vague feelings and not sure then you waste everyone's time by ticketing.
Seems very unlikely to me. And is quite honestly for FD to figure out. And even if that were the case. It would still be a bug. First discovered is supposed to by design and Brabens explicitly stated preference for how exploration should work (race there and back again and not leisurly taking it all in and bother with intermediate systems) go to the one first selling. So in your wondering case. The other one died. His data shouldn't matter at all. Even if he didn't die and is still out there. You were first back. Credit is supposed to go to you.
In short: Submit a ticket! It's a bug any way you look at it
Seems very unlikely to me. And is quite honestly for FD to figure out. And even if that were the case. It would still be a bug. First discovered is supposed to by design and Brabens explicitly stated preference for how exploration should work (race there and back again and not leisurly taking it all in and bother with intermediate systems) go to the one first selling. So in your wondering case. The other one died. His data shouldn't matter at all. Even if he didn't die and is still out there. You were first back. Credit is supposed to go to you.
In short: Submit a ticket! It's a bug any way you look at it
Agreed and bump to get back onto front page in the hope the devs spot the thread.
Ok, I'll be sure to ticket this issue soon. Thanks for the info
Um, not sure how to take this post, but, as stated, I do have video and pictures to show that I'm having this issue. I just wanted to be sure about it being a bug and not something that we perhaps could have been overlooking. So, also taking your advice, I'll ticket the issue and provide my evidence.
Seems very unlikely to me. And is quite honestly for FD to figure out. And even if that were the case. It would still be a bug. First discovered is supposed to by design and Brabens explicitly stated preference for how exploration should work (race there and back again and not leisurly taking it all in and bother with intermediate systems) go to the one first selling. So in your wondering case. The other one died. His data shouldn't matter at all. Even if he didn't die and is still out there. You were first back. Credit is supposed to go to you.
In short: Submit a ticket! It's a bug any way you look at it
Okay, this makes sense. I'll ticket it soon
I'm betting that FD has the correct information concerning who scanned what first with a surface scanner. Hopefully, I'll be right in this guess and the issue is just information not displaying correctly for any number of reasons. So, I'll keep exploring and selling data (though I might hold off on a couple of planned expeditions thousands of ly away).
Since I am still heading out, then I don't need to even think about worrying.
Great, ticket away.
I have worked with IT support most of my working life. Details to help them get a reproducible case is what they really want. I have seen too many tickets raised that were so vague as to be useless - so I was simply telling you not to waste your time, and theirs, if that was the case. I wonder how many of the huge backlog of tickets ahead of mine are actually going to be useful!
Im currently trying to sell a page of exploration data, and it keeps giving me the money repeatedly every time I hit sell page, but its not removing the data.
EDIT: relogged and it seems to have righted itself, both in removing data and fixing the money issue.
No idea if the bodies I scanned that hadn't been discovered have been attributed to me though.
EDIT: relogged and it seems to have righted itself, both in removing data and fixing the money issue.
No idea if the bodies I scanned that hadn't been discovered have been attributed to me though.
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I'm thinking this is probably caused by the old gamma bug where if someone explored a system and then died before selling the data, the game still considered the system as explored by them. They couldn't re-scan it and sell it for actual credit though, so the system would be stuck in exploration limbo.
If you get a "CONGRATULATIONS!" pop up with discovery bonuses then those objects get your name stamped on them.
If you get a "CONGRATULATIONS!" pop up with discovery bonuses then those objects get your name stamped on them.
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I detailed surface scanned a 51 body system tonight (excluding the asteroids) including 3 water worlds and 8 high metal. Come to sell and all I got detail surface credit for was the main star, nothing else. I got the first discovered by tag on the main star but nothing else. This cannot be the old gamma bug as it would be highly unlikely that the main star would not be scanned but other bodies were.
So they threw the explorers a bone and now we find out that there is no meat and even less bone to chew on. Why did they promo the fact the we had only 'discovered' 0.000000000000001% of the galaxy when the mechanism to earn credits from exploring is completely kaputt?
So they threw the explorers a bone and now we find out that there is no meat and even less bone to chew on. Why did they promo the fact the we had only 'discovered' 0.000000000000001% of the galaxy when the mechanism to earn credits from exploring is completely kaputt?
mmm definitely broken.
I am out on a voyage and plan on being out for a good 3 weeks or more. I can only hope FD fix this promptly as exploring is the only major thing I feel keeping the old timers (84) into ED at the moment with all the issues.
In the Universal Cartographic selling tab :
- If there is a "ghost" planet (no name on it, don't even exists in system map) with a 0 value, then the bug trigger.
- If there is an object lacking the "-detailed surface scan" despite a value according to a scanned body (like 1200 for a sun) , then the bug trigger.
- All bodys which are not marked as scanned on the Universal Cartographic pannel while the value says otherwise will NOT be rewarded by the selling bonus, nor being displayed as first discovered on the galaxy map.
All other systems can be sold without a problem.
Yeah, back to selling systems one by one.
Hope that helps.
- If there is a "ghost" planet (no name on it, don't even exists in system map) with a 0 value, then the bug trigger.
- If there is an object lacking the "-detailed surface scan" despite a value according to a scanned body (like 1200 for a sun) , then the bug trigger.
- All bodys which are not marked as scanned on the Universal Cartographic pannel while the value says otherwise will NOT be rewarded by the selling bonus, nor being displayed as first discovered on the galaxy map.
All other systems can be sold without a problem.
Yeah, back to selling systems one by one.
Hope that helps.
I very much doubt it. Why would that player just explore a few random objects within a system, and not the obvious ones like the star? Why would such a player only explore the objects numbers 18 and up (which has been reported as an issue)?
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Selling them one by one does not bypass the problem, of course. It just makes it easier to spot which systems it has happened to.
I, too, have seen the dummy object, always at the top (before the first star) but I did not see any correlation between that and not getting the first finder bonus. Not that I was looking for one, mind you.