Why do some systems give a first discovered by for some stars/planets but not all

[Longshanks]

Example i traveled to one of the no named systems (ones that start with like Col 215 sector...) and one star there showed a discovered first by someone, the other star nor its planets around it showed any name, just unexplored. I scanned the star and the planets, went and sold the data and did not get any first discovered credit for any that i scanned.

Look at the system now in system map, the one discovered first by someone else shows their name, rest just show there details no name.

Not just takes some time for it to show cause I've had same thing happen and go back and look days later and nothing changed.

 

[Johnny Cyclops]

My conclusion is the star was discovered by the other commander but they hadn't found any of the other stars. This is likely when a commander jumps through a system en-route to someplace else and simply target scans the star they are facing. Did you just scan reveal the other bodies (but still leaving them as 'undiscovered'), or fly to each and target to reveal its name?

I'm currently on a long haul trip and finding a mix of explored and unexplored systems and bodies. I've made a note of a few where I'm the 'first discoverer' so will check the System Maps for those when I'm back home to see if they update for my name. Back in Beta 1.1 two weeks ago it did seem to wait a while to give me credit for discovery (and possibly required a relog by me?), but you've said you've done that. I'm not sure there's any increased financial payout for first discovery, or if there is it might not be totally obvious you're getting a financial 'bump'. Again, I'll check when I get home from my trip.

 

[ollobrains]

i think the first discover tag only applies once they have sold the data, it could be that commander is yet to sell it, which opens up the possiblity of selling before he gets back and u get UCartograhpy reward as the first to discover ( and first to sell that data getting credit) at least thats my understanding, if u blow up and dont return well u dont get credit. A bit of risk reward for explorers

 

[Longshanks]

I sold the data. Nobody beat me back and sold their data while i was in route or their name should now show when looking at the system via system map.

 

[Acarin]

I'm fairly sure that you only get credited if you run a scan of the object (ie target it, fly within range, wait 30s), not just for finding it with your Discovery Scanner. Some planets or stars may simply be too far away from the primary for the original discoverer to be bothered flying all the way out there.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Because its bugged. Multiple tickets on this but op should add another to try to reenforce thevissue

I reckon I get credit for maybe 70% of systems I 1st scan

 

[Dommarraa]

Or they only had basic disco

 

[Longshanks]

I did a detailed surface scan of each.

 

[jabberwalkie]

I'm fairly sure that you only get credited if you run a scan of the object (ie target it, fly within range, wait 30s), not just for finding it with your Discovery Scanner. Some planets or stars may simply be too far away from the primary for the original discoverer to be bothered flying all the way out there.

This is fairly common based on my experience when I have been exploring. People either are using the intermediate discovery scanner and things don't pop up for them, or they just don't want to spend the time to fly 300,000 to 500,000ls to find whatever it is that is out there.

 

[Evyl Minkey]

I've noticed this too and in a fairly heavily populated part of space. First star has a name against it, the others in the system don't but even with a detailed scan you don't get credit for a discovery.

 

[Acarin]

In that case, you have discovered a Thargoid base and they erased your data before you could sell it to ensure that the human race won't know of their presence until they are ready.

 

[Longshanks]

This is fairly common based on my experience when I have been exploring. People either are using the intermediate discovery scanner and things don't pop up for them, or they just don't want to spend the time to fly 300,000 to 500,000ls to find whatever it is that is out there.

I flew to each planet and did a surface scan of each, have both scanners, an advanced discovery scanner and the detailed surface scanner. I've gotten more then few first discovered tags on various stars/planets so I'm pretty sure I'm doing everything correct.

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In that case, you have discovered a Thargoid base and they erased your data before you could sell it to ensure that the human race won't know of their presence until they are ready.

I wish lol, one time recently i was interdicted by a federal dropship, I was tempted to take it on in my cobra just to see how bad they are but decided against it. Was carrying to much data I didn't want to lose being blown out of the sky or is that out of space?

 

[Johnny Cyclops]

I flew to each planet and did a surface scan of each, have both scanners, an advanced discovery scanner and the detailed surface scanner. I've gotten more then few first discovered tags on various stars/planets so I'm pretty sure I'm doing everything correct.

Then that's exactly what I've done on my long-trip, so I do expect to get the "First Discovered" tag with my name on the System Map. I'm not expecting an increased financial payout. I'll try to remember to come back to this thread once I get home. I see others post that this is a known bug - a pity if true. I do understand that until I get back to civilisation and sell the data that another commander could beat me to it.

 

[Retu81]

I've noticed this too and in a fairly heavily populated part of space. First star has a name against it, the others in the system don't but even with a detailed scan you don't get credit for a discovery.

The original "discovered by" list was most likely entered manually in the game. It could be that the mechanics are such that the system with a station already in it is considered "discovered" and you can't "rediscover" it again. Now the names on those systems are from that original list because no one bothered to check if the system in question was already inhabited or not. And since some of those initial discoverers didn't bother scanning the whole system, you'll get systems with some planets discovered and those that are not, are "undiscoverable" now.

My own hypothesis, but it fits to what I've seen.

 

[pluton]

I did a detailed surface scan of each.

There is currently a bug which affects systems with a large number of bodies.

Only the first few stars and planets which you scan are shown with the "Detailed Scan" attribute in the "Data to sell" report in the Universal Cartographics screen. Those with missing "Detailed Scan" don't get your "Discovered By" tag in the System Map and don't give you the first discoverer bonus. But you do still get the detailed scan bonus.

For example, in a system with "34 Astronomical Objects", only the first 10 which I scanned showed the "Detailed Scan" attribute when I sold the data. In a system with 47 objects, only the first 3. In another system I scanned all the bodies but none showed "Detailed Scan".

Also, when this happens, the first entry in the "Data to Sell" report sometimes shows a planet icon, no name, and 0 credits, which suggests some data corruption.

I've ticketed this, as have others.

 

[Vandaahl]

Or they only had basic disco

This is what I thought as well.

 

[Jay8ch]

I went on my first exploration yesterday and I only detail scanned the stars and the nearest objects, so I will have left a trail of systems where the star and any very close planets are discovered by me but none of the planets further out will be. You do get extra cash for being discoverer by the way, around 600 credits or so.

 

[fieval]

I had a similar weird experience,.
Found an untouched system with 44 bodies no tags on anything, spent well over an hour detail scanning every last one.
Sold the data... no undiscovered came up, no extra payment.
Checked cartographics...all bodies show up with details but with no first discoverer tag on anything?
Was rather let down after spending all that time!
The system still shows up with no 1st discoverer tag on anything!!

 

[landers]

its another bug to add to the list , there is a thread on it, make a ticket, and hope you get a reply in a month

 

[Jay8ch]

It all seemed to work OK for me, maybe the bug only happens if you detailed scan a lot of planets. I couldn't be bothered to go to all the effort to scan each planet in case it didn't work and it seems I made the right call.