Guide / Tutorial Nutter’s explorers guide to the Galaxy

Chris M Fortune

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I have decided following the Yembo debacle to give a serious go at exploration, I have done a few short runs up to around 300 to 500 ly out but not attempted a very low run before. I have got my ASP kitted out pretty well but am in a minor quandary as to finalising the loadout before making the jump out of inhabited space.

Given that interdictions are up since 1.1 would you still advocate no weapons/shield as the prefered set up or would a minimal defensive set be more advised now?

Also I have tried out using a 16T fuel tank for a run to the edge of inhabited space and it has worked well but it only allows me 4 or maybe 5 longer jumps before I would hit fuel problems. Given that it adds an extra 1.6ish ly to jumpragne (full) compared to the 32 (full) what would be your thoughs on this? Is it safe to reduce the number of jumps this much for a long run?
 

ZacMacCrac

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No shield will get you killed eventually. NPCs interdict you all the time now. Even a couple hits..... eventually that hull is going to crack.
As for the fuel tank, the tank does not have any weight on its own. Only the fuel contained has mass. So you can achieve the same range with a bigger tank if you remove excess fuel beforehand. Definitely go with the bigger tank, there are lots of T-Tauri and Red Dwarf regions out there where refueling opportunities are rare at best.
 

Varrag

Varrag
Chris M Fortune said:
Given that interdictions are up since 1.1 would you still advocate no weapons/shield as the prefered set up or would a minimal defensive set be more advised now?
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I flew out to my next voyage just when interdictions (allegedly) became more frequent and decided to fit shields, just in case. I said "allegedly" because I haven't noticed anything unusual on my way out from the twilight zone... NPC here and there, just one interdiction easily evaded with standard technique. But who knows what might be happening in few weeks when I turn back home. Perhaps submit/boost/FA off won't be viable by then?

Needles to say, shields as well as point defences are permanently turned off in deep space to drop heat.
 
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Conash

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ZacMacCrac said:
No shield will get you killed eventually. NPCs interdict you all the time now. Even a couple hits..... eventually that hull is going to crack.
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I do not agree with this statement. I didnt get interdicted all that much... Only twice. I have 4 pips to engines and i submit. First second i get interdiction notice i throttle to 0 then whil i get visuals of stopping i throttle up to max and boost. they usually dont have a chance to shoot even once. Other option is to pay attention to scanner. if u have someone lining behind you u drop out of SC. if its NPC he wont follow. If its player then before he drops your FSD is back online. and u can jump to any system.

If you are worried that you may get rammed while docking then u can also sort this out. What i did was travel without shields. On the way back i picked furthest outpost with docking bay and outfitting shop. I docked there and picked up shields. And then went to my home system.
Same on the way out. u can fly in populated with shield and sell it in last station out.
 

neXib

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I got interdicted a lot before I headed out again, which was annoying because there were many interesting and undiscovered systems there but I just had to bail. We'll end up with everything in the outskirts of humanity being undiscovered while all nebula areas are :)
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
EDbubba said:
If it's part of "known space" there will be no "First Discovered by" award, even though it may be allowed to be scanned. I think the name is the giveaway...
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Ah, my mistake, I was thinking of Hoedus I and II, which are outside the inhabited area. You're right, the Hyadums are well inside.
 

Gozmoth

Gozmoth
Hi there,

I just came back from a big trip outer space and I have a question for the seasoned explorers.
I have scanned far away a named system (= not system like POTATOE AE-DB1) and it clearly looked like nobody came before (not shown in the system status + no explorers have visited the zone around before).

Sadly this system has been skipped when I have sold the data and I am not registred as the first explorer. Moreover I cannot at all see the system status in the map (button is red) but I can see the other systems I have visited. This was not a "know space" area. :)

Any explanations ? Is this a bug ?

Thank you. :)
 

Chris M Fortune

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ZacMacCrac said:
No shield will get you killed eventually. NPCs interdict you all the time now. Even a couple hits..... eventually that hull is going to crack.
As for the fuel tank, the tank does not have any weight on its own. Only the fuel contained has mass. So you can achieve the same range with a bigger tank if you remove excess fuel beforehand. Definitely go with the bigger tank, there are lots of T-Tauri and Red Dwarf regions out there where refueling opportunities are rare at best.
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Flew out this evening on what was intended as a shakedown to be sure I was happy with the loadout but just started going further and further. I am realy glad I kept the shields, they are only a D5 but they have saved me hull damage twice so far. Also, regarding the tank size although I have not needed the 32 yet it feels so much more comfortable that I am sure if I had not gone back to it I would have turned back to refit it.

All in all I think I am already on the long cruise even though I did not intend to start tonight. Just found my first close binary, thankfully as 4th and 5th stars of a system so no issue with jumping in.

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Edit:

In my outbound journey I have encountered a number of T-Tauri stars that have a visual appearance much more like class M (will grab a screenie next time) stars than is shown in the image (massively helpful image btw). Perhaps a clear warning that going by visuals alone is going to cause you to make mistakes, especially when scooping may be handy for newcomers to the practice of exploration.


Edit 2:
I just made this

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=116384&p=1807084#post1807084

post and would appreciate your views, thanks
 
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Longshanks

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EDbubba said:
With a name like that it sounds like a "pre-discovered" system from the original alpha/beta local systems seed, which will give you no cash or recognition.

You need to go out to systems that have really long convoluted names like "Omega Sector BM-W D12-1" (I made that up, but I did find a "BM-W"! ;) )
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EDbubba said:
If it's part of "known space" there will be no "First Discovered by" award, even though it may be allowed to be scanned. I think the name is the giveaway...
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Yet there is many "NAMED" systems that have one or more stars\planets showing first discovered names.
 

mossfoot

mossfoot
Here's what I'll be taking out later today:

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No paint jobs available, but at least my Trailblazer logo looks sweet

I've decided to rechristen her "Viaticus Rex II", which is very poor Latin for "King of a Journey". The original Viaticus Rex was a prototype Cobra MKII (long story), but I lost her when I ended up kinda dead a hundred and fifty years ago (longer story) and wound up in 3301.

You'll note that not everything is A class, some are D to save weight. Others are B (like Fuel Scoop and Auto-repair) because I can't afford the A. The Class 5 bays are technically cargo, but my in-game reasoning is that I'm converting one to an entertainment center and the other into a gym to help keep me from going stir crazy.

She can make just over 28LY on a full tank, which can be pushed to 30LY if she's running low. Currently she's sitting at 25LY because I'm carrying some rares with me to the Last Homely House (what I call whatever is the last station before you leave civilization behind). I have an Intermediate scanner instead of Advanced in part because I couldn't afford Advanced, but also because I like to hunt shift (checking the parallax to find distant planets/stars). Keeps things interesting.

I could downgrade some things on it and tweak it to get another LY out of her, but I think I'm happy with this as is :)
 
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Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
I'm noticing some strange periodicity and quirks in the stars. It's probably not something you'd notice unless you were being oddly dedicated*...
"From the desk of Jackie Silver"
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Don't those old Lego astronauts look so much nicer than the gurning, grimacing angry faces of today? There's a metaphor for the forums in there somewhere.
A prime example is an oddly high number of B0 V stars spattered across the last few thousand light years. Every fifty or so light years there'd be another one smirking at me. No B1 through B9 (solo), almost no A0 through A6 (solo), loads of B0s. Strange. :S There are other stellar types which occur with suspicious frequency too.
And in over seven thousand light years of travel, I haven't run into a single M9 star. Plenty of brown dwarfs L0 and below, plenty of M0 through M8, no M9s... (again, solo, haven't been paying close attention to multiple star systems)


*that's a euphemism. I wouldn't want to be caught by the ravening swear-monkeys!
 

Chris M Fortune

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A question regarding star clasification

I am seeing addtional letters in most of the classifications that are not detailed in the first post, does anyone know what they are?



K - Spectral class
5 - Temp
V - Size
AB - Unknown ??? This is always a letter or pair of letters, I have seen A, AB and Z most commonly
 

CmdrPSB

CmdrPSB
Jackie Silver said:
I'm noticing some strange periodicity and quirks in the stars. It's probably not something you'd notice unless you were being oddly dedicated*...
"From the desk of Jackie Silver"
http://i.imgur.com/aghDzrv.jpg
Don't those old Lego astronauts look so much nicer than the gurning, grimacing angry faces of today? There's a metaphor for the forums in there somewhere.
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That looks like something from Bletchley Park :D
 

Jackie Silver

Jackie Silver
Chris M Fortune said:
AB - Unknown ??? This is always a letter or pair of letters, I have seen A, AB and Z most commonly
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I'd also like to know this. Z could indicate unusual metallicity (e.g. older Population II stars have less metals than younger stars) and I suspect A and B indicate a variable. Not sure on the details though.
 

CmdrPSB

CmdrPSB
Jackie Silver said:
Ah, thanks. What do you suppose "LMG" means in this context? Could still be Low Metallicity (somethingorother)?
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Good question, and I have no idea, that's the only place it appears in the article and google gives nothing obvious.

Luminous Mega Goat?

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Actually I've had another look and turned up a couple of references in textbooks and papers, all of which refer to Vz being a specific subclass of O type stars found in the Large Magellanic Cloud, so I'm wondering if LMG isn't a typo of LMC.

e.g. this one http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.4435.pdf and this one
 
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