I seem to recall that the cargo synch to the server was done back in the alpha, when the first hackers disclosed themselves. FD apparently did some stuff then to obfuscate the data held in memory to make it harder to hack. So I find all this talk of very easy hacking most strange. Did FD simply take all that stuff out? Was it not really effective anyway? Did they forget the message they had learned? Are the hackers exaggerating the claims of what they can achieve? It all makes very little sense to me.
Cheat Alert: 204k delivered to Furbaide within an hour?
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I seem to recall that the cargo synch to the server was done back in the alpha, when the first hackers disclosed themselves. FD apparently did some stuff then to obfuscate the data held in memory to make it harder to hack. So I find all this talk of very easy hacking most strange. Did FD simply take all that stuff out? Was it not really effective anyway? Did they forget the message they had learned? Are the hackers exaggerating the claims of what they can achieve? It all makes very little sense to me.
I'd say my moustache beats Kim's gel stained hair by a long shot
Curious, do they actually have video proof of their exploits on those sites or just tall tales?
They're not that stupid, unlike some of the kids who posted videos of themselves shooting ships inside stations etc.
They are doing things like running two instances of the client, with low level ships with turrets sitting in conflict zones 'farming' credits, whilst afk. The ships are hacked not to lose shield and have a damage multiplier of x100, along with many other things.
There could also be another possibility, and that is this person could be working with a group, you could theoretically have people bring you stuff from other systems, drop out of FSD near the station but not enough to be fined for littering, have then release(abandon) cargo and ferry it back sub light between the station and drop zone.
I have done it with a friend before on a delivery mission, maybe not on that scale but it could be done.
I have done it with a friend before on a delivery mission, maybe not on that scale but it could be done.
Have you ever tried to scoop up large numbers of cargo cannisters? Do you know how long it would take to fill a Type 9 that way? You would just about have time to get to the core and back.
not if you use the line technique, though this does require a bit of choreography. but the basic principle is that the unloader cruises at about 15-20(kph?) and unloads his cargo, normally the first can spawns under the scoop and additional scans spawn in a cloud around the person, however because you are moving, as each can is unloading, the area under the scoop is clear so they drop like the first can, and you create a line. All the person behind has to do is line up his scoop with the line and scoop up the cans as they roll into the cargo scoop.
Now, I will admit I haven't even attempted to do it on THIS kind of scale, but I've done with a buddy of mine and we can get delivery missions done really fast this way.
Community goals is like the ultimate carrot on a stick. People think they are gonna get something at the end but really they are just grinding trades lol.
Even though I'm not participating in this event and I'm not even that proficient of a hauler, I feel your pain, OP. This kind of nonsense can be soul-crushing. You're doing the good work while some comes along and - ZOINKS!
It's obviously an exploit, all the evidence seems clear enough and if your evidence is clear, no further speculation is required.
It could very well be multiple instances again..
It's obviously an exploit, all the evidence seems clear enough and if your evidence is clear, no further speculation is required.
It could very well be multiple instances again..
It's at tier 1 now, and it's considerably less than Yembo.
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scooping one canister out of 204,000 every 5 seconds, which would be absolutely amazing, would take 283 hours.
Well, I don't think that's the case. Do some research, perhaps?
Saw it all first hand, but thanks for the suggestion.
That's a good point, i also thought it was a guild working together to claim the "prize" for first contributor (if they are in game yet). Im still not placing my bets on hacks, it would just be incredibly dumb. The server/game does shady things sometimes, it could just be lag or even a bad number.
Top one had around 150k tons hauled in... If this new community goal(?) ends up to have cheaters, then devs have to check other CGs as well, to correct possibly askewed results. I worked really long hours to get to top 3 in Yembo and if it turns out there was someone cheating there as well, then these CGs are a total waste of time.
Then again, look at any online game with global leaderboards. Top players are almost always cheaters (stat padders). I guess they have their own competition going on. Showing off which cheat is the most effective at accomplishing a given task...
Interesting to say the least, but there could be some legit explanation.
For example, it could well be a numerical error on the feed.
Or there could of been a delay in updating this.
Nevertheless, it's still a bit iffy.
I'd suggest creating a ticket with the screenshots, and say you found a bug, where the community goal is reporting incorrect numbers.
And see what they say from there.
For example, it could well be a numerical error on the feed.
Or there could of been a delay in updating this.
Nevertheless, it's still a bit iffy.
I'd suggest creating a ticket with the screenshots, and say you found a bug, where the community goal is reporting incorrect numbers.
And see what they say from there.
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As always making a thread on the forums is NO guarantee that it will come to the attention of the right people (devs).
Ticket any bugs and suspicious activities and let FD analyse their data and decide.
Ticket any bugs and suspicious activities and let FD analyse their data and decide.
and the KoolAid is delicious too!
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