Hi everyone, I have 600,000 credits now Which is a lot to me. I'm thinking of getting the viper to do some bounties. How much would I need to upgrade weapons and what upgrades I need for the viper. I haven't bought one yet. As I'm still doing missions on the bullet board with my adder. So I can still make more money for my viper.thanks for reading and any information will be much appreciated.
newbie here need some information on ships
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There is a very good sight at http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=30M,5QG5QG,2-5U5U5U3w5U5U3c,03w7QEmpT2Uc
This will let you see how much a setup would cost and remember at least two insurance claims.
In your position I would buy a Cobra and trade until I'd reached at least a million Cr then do it. My Viper costs about 2M
This would be a good start: [Viper] M: 1E/F Beam Laser M: 1E/F Beam Laser S: 1F/F Multi-cannon S: 1F/F Multi-cannon BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy RB: 3C Power Plant TM: 3D Thrusters FH: 3D Frame Shift Drive EC: 2D Life Support PC: 3B Power Distributor SS: 3D Sensors FS: 2C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 4) 3: 2E Cargo Rack (Capacity: 4) 3: 3C Shield Generator 1: 1E Basic Discovery Scanner --- Shield: 103.23 MJ Power : 6.67 MW retracted (67%) 8.61 MW deployed (86%) 10.00 MW available Cargo : 4 T Fuel : 4 T Mass : 92.5 T empty 100.5 T full Range : 8.65 LY unladen 8.30 LY laden Price : 425,332 CR Re-Buy: 21,267 CR @ 95% insurance
This will let you see how much a setup would cost and remember at least two insurance claims.
In your position I would buy a Cobra and trade until I'd reached at least a million Cr then do it. My Viper costs about 2M
This would be a good start: [Viper] M: 1E/F Beam Laser M: 1E/F Beam Laser S: 1F/F Multi-cannon S: 1F/F Multi-cannon BH: 1I Lightweight Alloy RB: 3C Power Plant TM: 3D Thrusters FH: 3D Frame Shift Drive EC: 2D Life Support PC: 3B Power Distributor SS: 3D Sensors FS: 2C Fuel Tank (Capacity: 4) 3: 2E Cargo Rack (Capacity: 4) 3: 3C Shield Generator 1: 1E Basic Discovery Scanner --- Shield: 103.23 MJ Power : 6.67 MW retracted (67%) 8.61 MW deployed (86%) 10.00 MW available Cargo : 4 T Fuel : 4 T Mass : 92.5 T empty 100.5 T full Range : 8.65 LY unladen 8.30 LY laden Price : 425,332 CR Re-Buy: 21,267 CR @ 95% insurance
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You can run through various configuration options using this tool to gauge cost and power requirements.
http://www.edshipyard.com
http://www.edshipyard.com
How much is your current ship worth? Or do you want to keep it and buy the Viper outright?
I think you should have closer to 1.5MCr to start off. You can fiddle with the loadout at edshipyard.com to see what everything costs, but Class A shields and thrusters are 500,000Cr each as an idea of where you'll want to be fully loaded out, plus you need about 200,000Cr for weapons. If you're not married to your current ship, check the trade-in price, but you'll probably find the Viper is a lousy trader compared to the other small ships. Having said that, you can switch back to any other ship, losing only 10% of the cost of the Viper (10,000Cr), so long as you swap out any upgrades first.
The Viper is definitely the best "bang for your buck" value, but you will need about 2M for a truly combat-worthy build (+ insurance, as mentioned above). If you want to make that as quickly as possible, grab either a Hauler or a Cobra, kit it for trading (max cargo, D-class components, no weapons) and run some trade routes for a while, then switch back to the Viper idea.
remember, however, that if you simply trade a ship in, you lose 10% of the _total value_, so it is usually worth selling off or downgrading the components first.
EDIT: *sigh* ninja'd again...
remember, however, that if you simply trade a ship in, you lose 10% of the _total value_, so it is usually worth selling off or downgrading the components first.
EDIT: *sigh* ninja'd again...
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Depends on what you mean by bounties IMO.
If you want to do the big 150k+ bounty missions then you are gonna need near 3mill to be ready.
If you just want to hang out at nav beacons and RES then you have plenty of cash to upgrade. Get the viper, make sure you have a big enough FSD to get to the system you intend to hang at, done.
If you have left over cash then upgrade you class2 weapons to C2 gimbled pulse and up your power distributor if you can. Ignore your small weapon slots completely if you are going this route. You can never use them anyway until you have a much better power plant and distributor.
If you are upgrading as you go like this then your upgrade path should be
Distributor
Power Plant
Shields
Thrusters(honestly, thrusters can probably wait till everything else is maxed unless you are finding you are missing out on bounties by not getting there in time)
Never get any of the B rated gear, its way too heavy and your speed and turning will suffer, and thats the main power of the viper.
After every upgrade, double check you can afford the buyback cost before you leave the station.
I got my viper when I had less money than you do now, after I toyed with a cobra for a bit. I think I had 400k after buying back a trashed cobra and got my viper then.
I made my first 10 mill almost exclusively at RES and nav beacons, upgrading my viper as I went.
I promise you just the 2 gimbled pulse lasers are the best for this method, but since you are going to ignore this (i did
), a couple tips.
Do not try out Beam lasers until you have maxed out your power distributor or you will hate life. Your power plant probably cant handle them anyway.
4 fixed multicannons are frikin cool fun and since most NPC cobras have terrible shields, are pretty effective. Its still a bad Idea as you will forever be running for ammo.
Oh and pro tip for all first timers in a viper.
This thing is FAST! Before making a FA off turn, make sure to check for asteroids in your path. Fail this and you will go pop.
If you want to do the big 150k+ bounty missions then you are gonna need near 3mill to be ready.
If you just want to hang out at nav beacons and RES then you have plenty of cash to upgrade. Get the viper, make sure you have a big enough FSD to get to the system you intend to hang at, done.
If you have left over cash then upgrade you class2 weapons to C2 gimbled pulse and up your power distributor if you can. Ignore your small weapon slots completely if you are going this route. You can never use them anyway until you have a much better power plant and distributor.
If you are upgrading as you go like this then your upgrade path should be
Distributor
Power Plant
Shields
Thrusters(honestly, thrusters can probably wait till everything else is maxed unless you are finding you are missing out on bounties by not getting there in time)
Never get any of the B rated gear, its way too heavy and your speed and turning will suffer, and thats the main power of the viper.
After every upgrade, double check you can afford the buyback cost before you leave the station.
I got my viper when I had less money than you do now, after I toyed with a cobra for a bit. I think I had 400k after buying back a trashed cobra and got my viper then.
I made my first 10 mill almost exclusively at RES and nav beacons, upgrading my viper as I went.
I promise you just the 2 gimbled pulse lasers are the best for this method, but since you are going to ignore this (i did
), a couple tips.Do not try out Beam lasers until you have maxed out your power distributor or you will hate life. Your power plant probably cant handle them anyway.
4 fixed multicannons are frikin cool fun and since most NPC cobras have terrible shields, are pretty effective. Its still a bad Idea as you will forever be running for ammo.
Oh and pro tip for all first timers in a viper.
This thing is FAST! Before making a FA off turn, make sure to check for asteroids in your path. Fail this and you will go pop.
I'd get a viper and look into trading rares if I was you. But there's nothing wrong with having some fun in the viper. Just be sure to get a fuel scoop and a good FSD beware of pirates though.
Thank you very much for all this information. I'm going to save about 3 million then get the viper then upgrades all at the same time. This is a great forum and you guys are great. Many thanks.