I'm fairly new to the game, just got my first cobra. I keep seeing stories about the fun people are having with each other and I really want to take part but at the same time I'm seeing posts on reddit about new players just getting killed all the time. It took me what felt like ages to get my cobra and I keep thinking that if I stop playing solo I'm just gonna get killed and be right back to square one. Is it really as bad as it sounds?
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You need to play sensible in open. If you hand around the starter systems then there's more chance of dying easily. Fly 100lys away and try to stay away from the main player bases to start with, sol, lave, starting systems and then when you get more comfortable move to the more populated areas.
Never fly without insurance costs and every cmdr you see target them and say hi, not everyone will reply but it's generally harder for a cmdr to kill a talkative player as the conscience kicks in. If you're pirated, drop cargo and a decent player pirate will let you live. Most will stop for a chat.
There are always people who will see you as a target and kill for no reason but after 700 hours in open I've never personally met one.
Hope this helps, fly safe cmdr
If you go to the forums and read up on the latest money schemes you will almost always run into pirates who also read the forums. If you ignore all the offered software that puts you on dangerous routes you almost never see other players in open play. Unless your ready then go to the list of money schemes and you got plenty of pvp.
Not at all! I haven't been interdicted nor attacked by another commander except for few first days after the launch. Then again conda with dangerous rank probably isn't too tempting to PC's , but it can change when wings goes live, i do hope so. Fly Dangerous cmdr
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You need to play sensible in open. If you hand around the starter systems then there's more chance of dying easily. Fly 100lys away and try to stay away from the main player bases to start with, sol, lave, starting systems and then when you get more comfortable move to the more populated areas.
Never fly without insurance costs and every cmdr you see target them and say hi, not everyone will reply but it's generally harder for a cmdr to kill a talkative player as the conscience kicks in. If you're pirated, drop cargo and a decent player pirate will let you live. Most will stop for a chat.
There are always people who will see you as a target and kill for no reason but after 700 hours in open I've never personally met one.
Hope this helps, fly safe cmdr
Pretty much this ^^ would just add - avoid interdictions if you can - which isn't too hard if you're paying attention (though I sometimes fail to follow my own advice...)
Some people do seem to have had a string of bad encounters but my experience has been fine.
Mind you, this is anecdotal evidence.
Been playing since release and except for the first week, exclusively in Open. As a small time pirate/Bounty Hunter/Smuggler:
I've had ONE! hostile encounter with another player - a badly executed attempt at an interdiction; a CMDR looking for Bounties.
Move away from the areas where bullies look for victims and you're golden.
Been playing since release and except for the first week, exclusively in Open. As a small time pirate/Bounty Hunter/Smuggler:
I've had ONE! hostile encounter with another player - a badly executed attempt at an interdiction; a CMDR looking for Bounties.
Move away from the areas where bullies look for victims and you're golden.
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I am mainly a boundary trader as in I trade in systems near the outer boundary of human space. I sometimes wonder if I logged on in solo by accident I see so few players. As has been said before if you move out of the common areas its pretty quiet, I would head out before going online then head back in as you become more comfortable in open.
I think the forums are always going to paint a bleaker view of it because most of the time the difference between open and solo only gets mentioned when someone has had a bad experience in open. People who play in open and don't get ganked don't start threads to let everyone know they didn't get ganked. That's not to say it never happens just that the forums don't tell to tell the positive side of it, or indeed of anything in the game.
As people say, with it being such a huge playing area, there are many places where you're unlikely to see anyone. Check the system traffic reports (I don't know if you need to be in open to see them) in the station news feed. Anything under 200 ships in the last 24 hours is tumbleweed. If you look at the people reporting ganking incidents, it's almost always the same systems being named.
As people say, with it being such a huge playing area, there are many places where you're unlikely to see anyone. Check the system traffic reports (I don't know if you need to be in open to see them) in the station news feed. Anything under 200 ships in the last 24 hours is tumbleweed. If you look at the people reporting ganking incidents, it's almost always the same systems being named.
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It's not as bad as it sounds. Even for as positive a place as Reddit is, you're still going to get many more stories of negative encounters than actually exist. Most of the time you'll be flying around in open alone depending on location, but there are times when you'll be joined by other Commanders.
Here are some tips from me personally as I fly around as a pirate somewhat near a starter system:
1. Don't be unnecessarily rude to people- even pirates. If a pirate asks you to stop, it is your choice whether you do so or not. However, whatever you choose do it respectfully.
2. Learn how to communicate. Be default, pressing '2' will focus your UI on chat. You can then use 'W' and 'S' to scroll through potential chat targets (they will say ship type until you target them and scan them for their name). You can then press space bar for some options. If you double-space, you can quickly select the text chat option and say something. If someone interdicts you and you don't say anything, it makes you seem less human to them like you're just an NPC, and often if you have good intentions but don't tell them about it, they may not know. Example: I've interdicted people sometimes where I tell them to drop cargo and they don't, but they don't try to evade, so without them saying anything I don't know if they simply don't know how to drop cargo or they're just biding their time until they can escape. I usually end up killing them.
3. If you're interdicted and you see orange (NPC) chatter saying something like "There's no escape!" well, it's an NPC. But if you don't see anything, it's a CMDR.
4. CMDR targets on your radar appear as an empty box instead of a filled box. (think a ring instead of a solid circle)
5. Make friends where you can. I suppose this is self-explanatory.
6. If interdicted, never deploy hardpoints right away unless it's IMMEDIATELY after you land in the instance and you don't think your interdictor has targeted you yet. When you are targeted, those targeting you will get a notification when you've deployed hardpoints (but not when you've retracted them). If you do this it is a sign of aggression.
7. Also, similar to #6, don't fire before your interdictor's intent is clearly understood. Often times I will scan someone who I come to find has no cargo and they open fire on me. Most of the time I open fire back and kill them. Sometimes I let them go even if they have opened fire. But the latter is more rare.
Sorry this is all I can think of but I'll post more if I think of any.
Here are some tips from me personally as I fly around as a pirate somewhat near a starter system:
1. Don't be unnecessarily rude to people- even pirates. If a pirate asks you to stop, it is your choice whether you do so or not. However, whatever you choose do it respectfully.
2. Learn how to communicate. Be default, pressing '2' will focus your UI on chat. You can then use 'W' and 'S' to scroll through potential chat targets (they will say ship type until you target them and scan them for their name). You can then press space bar for some options. If you double-space, you can quickly select the text chat option and say something. If someone interdicts you and you don't say anything, it makes you seem less human to them like you're just an NPC, and often if you have good intentions but don't tell them about it, they may not know. Example: I've interdicted people sometimes where I tell them to drop cargo and they don't, but they don't try to evade, so without them saying anything I don't know if they simply don't know how to drop cargo or they're just biding their time until they can escape. I usually end up killing them.
3. If you're interdicted and you see orange (NPC) chatter saying something like "There's no escape!" well, it's an NPC. But if you don't see anything, it's a CMDR.
4. CMDR targets on your radar appear as an empty box instead of a filled box. (think a ring instead of a solid circle)
5. Make friends where you can. I suppose this is self-explanatory.
6. If interdicted, never deploy hardpoints right away unless it's IMMEDIATELY after you land in the instance and you don't think your interdictor has targeted you yet. When you are targeted, those targeting you will get a notification when you've deployed hardpoints (but not when you've retracted them). If you do this it is a sign of aggression.
7. Also, similar to #6, don't fire before your interdictor's intent is clearly understood. Often times I will scan someone who I come to find has no cargo and they open fire on me. Most of the time I open fire back and kill them. Sometimes I let them go even if they have opened fire. But the latter is more rare.
Sorry this is all I can think of but I'll post more if I think of any.
Why not try a PvE group like:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362
In a PvE group, if you run into someone and want to have a PvP fight and they agree you can, and agree to stop at say 20% hull or something.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362
In a PvE group, if you run into someone and want to have a PvP fight and they agree you can, and agree to stop at say 20% hull or something.
Pretty much this. There's a well publicised route involving rare trading around Lave, and the second stop of that is in an anarchy system - and unsurprisingly there's more than the usual amount of CMDRs doing shakedowns between the system star and the trading posts.
You're as well to go off the beaten track sometimes - safer to stick to areas that no-one really bothers with.
Always, always, always keep enough insurance for the ship you're regularly operating. looters will happen. Accidental high velocity collisions with space stations will happen (*cough*). You can hold on to previous ships, you just can't sell it off to reduce the price of your new ride. Maybe accrue a little extra cash safely first before boosting off into the big black yonder.
Why would people be polite to someone who demands stuff that isn't theirs under threat of death? Ditto the notion that I've seen pirates make that they'll totally leave you alone if you just drop some of their stuff.
And interdicting someone at random isn't?
I must admit, it is entertaining watching pirates trying to rationalise.
I said don't be unnecessarily rude. From what I've personally encountered (I have been pirated as well), pirates, while firm, are rarely rude off the bat. If the first thing that comes out of your mouth (metaphorically speaking, of course) is fowl, the encounter will likely end that way.
Irrelevant. But to answer your question: not always, no. It's a display of dominance for sure but not necessarily aggression. Many bounty hunters interdict targets as well. And is that a sign of aggression? They may not even know if their target is wanted during interdiction, just as a pirate may not even know if their target is carrying any cargo. It's merely business.
It is also entertaining to watch people get so salty about piracy. Heck, I was just trying to help the poor guy with some information from my own experience.
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And there will still be threads on the forums complaining that there's not enough PvP.
In all seriousness though, player kills are minimal if you want them to be. I've had a grand total of ONE PvP fight in several hundred hours. That was in a warzone, and we stopped because it transpired that due to earlier blue-on-blue incidents, we were actually flying for the same side.
If you move even 20ly from Lave, Fujin or the starter systems, you see a few CMDRs a session and they aren't interested in killing you, in my experience. If you do what I did and set up a trade run at the edge of inhabited space, you almost never see anyone. The traffic report in my current base station says "in the last 24 hours, 29 ships have passed through," then lists Asp: 14, Type 7: 15.
Both the ships are mine.
If I want social contact, I jump into my alliance teamspeak channel. Sometimes I stop trading and collect my Viper to join my alliance in conflict zones.
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Pffft, I think not!
If you Interdicted me I'll tell you exactly what you are and what I think in very choice terms. If you don't like it - cry when you're floating in space without a ship.Are you for real? The intention is crystal clear when I get Interdicted - it's an aggressive move. Game on.
Lol, I understand it real good, thanks.
You seem to be under the misapprehension that just because you Interdict someone you get given freebies as a matter of course. I think not. Honestly, ignore this guy's advice utterly and completely. He seems to think just because he stops you to rob you, you should throw him a bone by virtue of his awesomeness. Kick his ass!!
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