So .. after months of stalking you lot

Caspar

Caspar
Parcelforce say that they'll be delivering me a 'package' tomorrow.

I'm not the kind of person to be fussed by resolution or having the most maxed out setting. All I'm looking for is to break through the scale immersion barrier. I don't want the game to be a window in a dark corner of the room any more and I don't want to imagine the things I'm looking at are supposed to be big. I actually want to look around and gawp at the stuff.

Hopefully the DK2 will go some way to heading in that direction. Fingers crossed (that Parcelforce deliver and that the experience is good).
 

Nauht

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Caspar said:
Parcelforce say that they'll be delivering me a 'package' tomorrow.

I'm not the kind of person to be fussed by resolution or having the most maxed out setting. All I'm looking for is to break through the scale immersion barrier. I don't want the game to be a window in a dark corner of the room any more and I don't want to imagine the things I'm looking at are supposed to be big. I actually want to look around and gawp at the stuff.

Hopefully the DK2 will go some way to heading in that direction. Fingers crossed (that Parcelforce deliver and that the experience is good).
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You won't be disappointed re immersion factor.... can pretty much guarantee this.
 

tinimark

tinimark
Welcome to the jungle!
Spend some time locking in your settings...the sweet spot is small but very sweet.
Once you get that sorted you won't be playing the game, you'll be IN the game!
 

Caspar

Caspar
drkaii said:
You can now effectively set aside 10% of all your upcoming life, welcome to the club!

P.s. what PC specs you running?
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AMD FX 6350 - 8 GB system memory - with a Sapphire R9 280 Dual-X card (3GB card RAM). I'm expecting it to chug a bit but will see what I can do before I start upgrading parts.

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rennarda said:
Please post your first impressions - I love reading this kind of stuff. I love putting the Rift on people and watching their reaction....

(Sits back, grabs some popcorn)
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Will do - It's just turned up so will have a go after work.

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T.j said:
The game is never the same after you put on the rift.

Your eyes will love you forever. :D
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Hah yes - but I suspect that Mrs Caspar is going to hate this thing! I intend to get her to make friends with it by sticking her on a roller coaster this evening.
 

CMDR W E S Fisher

CMDR W E S Fisher
Pleased for you mate. You will love the rift. I cant go back to a monitor or even another game on monitor. get distracted and bored to easilly. Wonder what the size of the playr base is for Rift.
 

Caspar

Caspar
Okay - here are my first impressions (as requested by Rennarda).

Set the thing up .. the only real issue I had was setting up the 2nd desktop in extended mode (horizontal flip rather than portrait). Fired up the Oculus utility and tested the desk demo. And there it was .. another world. I had to deal with my eyes seeing one thing yet my sense of touch feeding back something different. I must have said OMG at least a dozen times in a row.

Completely unphased by the resolution because the sum of the parts makes the whole and it's much much bigger than it was previously. Loved this demo.

My next step was to try the UE4 roller coaster demo. I gripped the desk ... the sense of scale and the feeling in my stomach as I dropped to the floor. I've never experienced anything like it. That was my best immersion experience for PC ever ... until ..

Fired up the Elite Dangerous training demo (downtime / patching etc). I changed absolutely nothing in the settings other than using 2nd display and selecting the rift at 75Hz. I'm not sure it's locked at that though and I may have to drop the res of my main monitor to allow that to happen and should also tweak the level of detail considering my specs. I didn't have long to play as my Dad was over and I had to go out to a parents evening - so a quick bash!

The menu screen was like sitting in an IMAX - I fired up the Solar Fluke mission. Boom - there it was. I was in that ship and I got what I always wanted - a sense of scale. Even the tiny Sidewinder feels absolutely huge compared to the monitor experience. Popping up the guns - these were not some plastic toys that you could buy from Toys R Us .. these were big, heavy military weapons. The cockpit was spacious - the radar was much much bigger than I expected. Small table as opposed to a sandwich plate. Head looking for menus JUST WORKED !!! And the size of the asteroids! Unbelievable.

Sense of scale > resolution in my book x 100.

It was without doubt, easily the best gaming experience I have ever had. I even beats the time when I was a kid and I first played the Atari Starwars game. I am so blown away.
Nausea may be a small problem for me - the rollercoaster demo flattened me. 2 minutes afterwards I was dizzy as anything. I got some 'nausea' in ED but it seemed to be minor and passed quite quickly when I started to use my cockpit as a frame of reference.

I can only thank the Frontier staff who decided to make this experience happen .. and also the folks in the forum who have supported this venture by sharing hints and tips.
 

CMDR Saari

CMDR Saari
Caspar said:
The cockpit was spacious - the radar was much much bigger than I expected.
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Yes, this! It completely changed my perception of the ship design when I saw first-hand the size of the Sidewinder cockpit (flight deck more accurately?) and how the scanner wasn't a small screen on a dashboard but a 3D "war table" that you sit above and look down on. Awesome stuff!
 

Karnath

Karnath
Great follow up post Caspar, your nausea was probably carried on from your experience with the roller coaster demo
As your time with the rift grows so will your tolerance towards it
 

CMDR Holycow

CMDR Holycow
I get sick from ONE run on that damn rollercoaster.. but I can play ED for 8 hours if I wanted to. No sickness ever. Sometimes I can get a little vertigo if I look out the side ship window, and do a quick roll. Yowza~!

A great description you wrote up there. Take the time to really maximise the experience. There is a thread here with all the details. Green HUD, SweetFX, Unparking your cpu cores, etc. Game will be even better. Now that you have joined us and see what this game is REALLY like... how sorry do you feel for all the saps that are playing this game on a monitor?
 

Pyro Steel

Pyro Steel
Cpt.America said:
I get sick from ONE run on that damn rollercoaster.. but I can play ED for 8 hours if I wanted to. No sickness ever.
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RIGHT?! I don't know what's wrong with that Unreal engine roller coaster. I've never felt any type of nausea from my rift, until i tried that roller coaster. I don't know if they have their cameras set wrong or what, but that one single roller coaster is the only thing that i can't stay in. Loop de loops, barrel rolls, corkscrews, FPS, and anything else for hours straight... no problem. That stupid little coaster, 2 mins tops. That demo is just messed up.


Also, welcome to the club. :D the rift brings a whole new character to the game. Each ship can now properly been seen the way they were meant to be seen and experienced.
 

Caspar

Caspar
Here's the view after having this for a few days -

1 - It still is 'hands down' the best gaming experience I've ever had. VR is amazing and FD have done an amazing job. I got in my Type 7 last night and went for a walk around the spaceship. It really was brilliant to be able to move and peek over the edges to look down at the sun I was hovering over. That plus all the little things you don't see on a monitor. The book and flask in the Sidey cockpit for example. Nothing prepares you for the sudden change you experience.

2 - I'm likely to have to sell the unit. It works amazingly when it's judder free - but I've resigned myself to accepting that my gfx card is not up to the job (R9 280 - overclocked). Graphical fidelity isn't an issue (as I mentioned, it's all about scale for me) but I was hoping that if I dialled things down to low, I'd be able to get a smooth ride. Bottom line is that I can't - and I've found myself obsessed with a) trying to OC my system to get the extra FPS needed b) looking for bottlenecks that can be resolved with some mystery tweak c) Hoping that FD will come up with some miracle patch that will boost OC performance by enough to take away judder.

None of these things are going to happen - and I have to admit that my rig isn't up to the job.

The bottleneck is the card - I can lay down the cash for a very good replacement - but I've got other things I need to spend the money on as a priority (family etc). I can't justify spending a sum total of £500+ just to get VR working for ED *sad face*

But still - I'm glad I tried it and it's an experience that I'll never forget. I'm hopeful that in 12 months time, things will have come together. I'll keep reading the VR forum to see how you bunch are getting on.
 
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