AFK Capital ship camping for free money

There is a simple solution for AFK, let the cap ship move while fighting, who ever designed this, lux trading or moduls sale etc. didn't had his/her brightest moment.
 
good positions for semi-afk kill farming:

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- park your turret-python on top, between the "tower" and the half open armour plates.
- point your nose slightly upwards, so that the lower turret can shoot over the hull also. so this turret will take anything slightly below your line of sight while the
upper turrets take everything above it
- if you need to go totally afk just park it under these armour plates and regen...turn off the turrets then, as they would shoot the cap ship
- if a valuable ship seems to escape to the bottom of the capital out of your sight, fly through one of the trenches and your bottom turret can follow the enemy
- just fly backwards to take cover or to return to your main position
- to sit on the backside or on the front is too exposed. you have no cover and NPC will run havoc on you after some time as your turrets attract the enemies after a hit
- put size 2 or even size 1 turrets on the python (sufficient to get the kills) and keep 4 pips on shields. 2 pips are enough for constant fire then
- tank your shield with all a-class bosters on the utility mounts. you dont need chaff anyway
- fill your ship with high class shield cells

----> stay for hours while just popping a cell sometimes or to hide occasionally if really all big hitters (ASPs with rails or condas trying to ram you) turn against you.

yes....condas ram. in my single try i had it 2 times. once a conda went full speed into my ceiling, dropping my shield....once one missed, crashing full speed into the cap ship.
free 18k at this time ;-)
this happens only, if all the friendly NPCs are so stupid and follow one bait out of cap ship range, stopping to distract most of the enemies

its really so easy.....incredible

Will this work with a Cobra in the same spots?
 
Yeah it's a shame that this is happening. Hopefully they can come to some resolution soon. Maybe have the ship moving so you atleast have to keep up with it?

But then i suppose you'd just match it's speed.
 
the only one that does not get the point is you, it seems....sorry to say that

read the arguments again....slowly....

So you are saying that killing in a war zone is cheating? OMG all 4000 players have been cheating as they may have gone AFK for a moment or two in a combat zone.

Its like crying after you have spilt your own milk. Try pointing out the actual cheats who make 20 million credits in less than 8 hours in a combat zone BEFORE 1.2 was in place. Did anybody get banned, no.

People may not be AFK, they may actually be playing the game the way the game is actually being played. Now Just because you may think they are not playing the game right does not mean you have the right to call them cheats.

I understand why you do not like people playing the game the way it was made, but you must also understand that if you want to make any money you have to go into other modes due to the amount of stupid people who just wish to spoil your game. Calling people cheats is just another way you spoil peoples games.


If you have proof players are cheating, collect their names and report them, just do not come onto the forum and make unfounded accusations.
 
Yeah it's a shame that this is happening. Hopefully they can come to some resolution soon. Maybe have the ship moving so you atleast have to keep up with it? But then i suppose you'd just match it's speed.
Yes you are right, but then its not possible anymore to go afk the whole day/night so players actually play. AFK Timer?
 
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Thats not what hes saying. He is moaning that people are attacking other ships, killing them with their weapons, but getting some help from the capital ship. He seems to this that it is cheating to have a good ship and be able to get a lot of money for killing targets.

Nothing wrong with taking risks when in a war zone, but going AFK is risky when the player is not cheating.

Cheats make sure there are no risks.
Something like this makes it 99% risk free IMO
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=606,5...0A07_D8Cg8I,7Vs7jw7jw7jw16y16y16y15O15O15O12G

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Will this work with a Cobra in the same spots?
Not enough shield strength
 
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Something like this makes it 99% risk free IMO
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=606,5...0A07_D8Cg8I,7Vs7jw7jw7jw16y16y16y15O15O15O12G

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Not enough shield strength

maybe the cobra can hide between the narrow armour plates, lurking with the guns through the gap.....if fire gets too heavy, just reverse and find cover

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So you are saying that killing in a war zone is cheating? OMG all 4000 players have been cheating as they may have gone AFK for a moment or two in a combat zone.

Its like crying after you have spilt your own milk. Try pointing out the actual cheats who make 20 million credits in less than 8 hours in a combat zone BEFORE 1.2 was in place. Did anybody get banned, no.

People may not be AFK, they may actually be playing the game the way the game is actually being played. Now Just because you may think they are not playing the game right does not mean you have the right to call them cheats.

I understand why you do not like people playing the game the way it was made, but you must also understand that if you want to make any money you have to go into other modes due to the amount of stupid people who just wish to spoil your game. Calling people cheats is just another way you spoil peoples games.


If you have proof players are cheating, collect their names and report them, just do not come onto the forum and make unfounded accusations.

~sigh~

no...killing in a war zone is totally fine. only the way you get the kills near a cap ship is broken.....
thats all we say

got it now?!

cannot explain it any simpler
 
Something like this makes it 99% risk free IMO
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=606,5...0A07_D8Cg8I,7Vs7jw7jw7jw16y16y16y15O15O15O12G

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Not enough shield strength

Looked at it, seems pointless TBH.

This works every time. Sit either at the front or back of capital ship, use all pulse lasers and fly around cap ship.

As you fly around turrents hit every ship. You are not AFK and not cheating.

Also with what you posted where is the Exploit? point out where there is NO risk? If a ship can hit you and your shields loose strength that must mean that there is a risk to your ship.

If you Tank and use Turrets please point out the exact cheat which is being used?

Making a ships hard to kill also has its bad points, like reduction of speed and manoeuvrability. They are not cheating by doing this, just using the game as its made.

Cheats use other programs to make money.

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maybe the cobra can hide between the narrow armour plates, lurking with the guns through the gap.....if fire gets too heavy, just reverse and find cover

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~sigh~

no...killing in a war zone is totally fine. only the way you get the kills near a cap ship is broken.....
thats all we say

got it now?!

cannot explain it any simpler

how is it BROKEN?

Oh we cannot kill ships near to the capital ship any more just because the capital ship may kill it?

The system isn't broken, just the moaners finding something else to complain about.

Just play the game and stop finding faults with honest game players
 
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Its broken because it generates huge income while being afk, you are right it isn't "zero" risk, but its probably got about as much risk as me boost suiciding on dock (hasn't happened yet, almost certainly won't ever happen) if you had to fly around like you are suggesting then its just cheap but people would be complaining that the cap ships give too much assistance like the police do in RES, it isn't the cheap part thats the problem its cheap + AFK.
 
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Except that the Federation is a gigantic multisystem nation with a massive amount of military funding and power to the point where they can build ships the size of cities for the singular purpose of killing.

The Crimson State is a small faction in a single star system with negligible resources, and nearly no power compared to the Federation. Wouldn't it break the realism if they had equal chances as the Feds? And wouldn't it be silly if the Fed capital ship didn't show up to help? You don't just ask the rebels nicely to not overthrow your government.

Ok so just default every single conflict ever to the federation. Sounds like a great idea.

Join the opposing side and take them out?


Great, more PVP advice from Mobius.
 
Looked at it, seems pointless TBH.

This works every time. Sit either at the front or back of capital ship, use all pulse lasers and fly around cap ship.

As you fly around turrents hit every ship. You are not AFK and not cheating.

Also with what you posted where is the Exploit? point out where there is NO risk? If a ship can hit you and your shields loose strength that must mean that there is a risk to your ship.

If you Tank and use Turrets please point out the exact cheat which is being used?

Making a ships hard to kill also has its bad points, like reduction of speed and manoeuvrability. They are not cheating by doing this, just using the game as its made.

Cheats use other programs to make money.
I am just saying that you can make it virtually risk free. That conda has triple the shield strength of 7A (and also triple the armor I think?) and you can just leave it sitting there for 1 hour or so, come back, press a button to start the SCB (maybe? I dont think it even needs SCB tbqh), leave again (I should replace 1 HRP with AFMU too...). Speed and manouverability does not matter as this thing is build to just sit inside that capship gap.

Lets call it exploit or something else if cheating is not technically correct.
 
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Thats not what hes saying. He is moaning that people are attacking other ships, killing them with their weapons, but getting some help from the capital ship. He seems to this that it is cheating to have a good ship and be able to get a lot of money for killing targets.

Nothing wrong with taking risks when in a war zone, but going AFK is risky when the player is not cheating.

Cheats make sure there are no risks.

He said sitting AFK and making credits tho... Sorry I dont get what is happening here. Reread the thread and I'm still confused. If you are actually shooting the ship it doesn't matter that the Cap ship is shooting it to in my mind. I often drag Elite Anacondas into the Authorities that jump in to help me with assassination missions. Nothing wrong with that. But if they are AFK and making money, that's not cool.
 
He said sitting AFK and making credits tho... Sorry I dont get what is happening here. Reread the thread and I'm still confused. If you are actually shooting the ship it doesn't matter that the Cap ship is shooting it to in my mind. I often drag Elite Anacondas into the Authorities that jump in to help me with assassination missions. Nothing wrong with that. But if they are AFK and making money, that's not cool.
There is this thing called turrets? You can set it to fire at will, so it will engage all enemies without you doing anything. Park your ship somewhere safe in the capship (see pic above). Now your turrets will shoot an enemy automatically, the capship finishes them off, you get credits while taking a nap.
 
He said sitting AFK and making credits tho... Sorry I dont get what is happening here. Reread the thread and I'm still confused. If you are actually shooting the ship it doesn't matter that the Cap ship is shooting it to in my mind. I often drag Elite Anacondas into the Authorities that jump in to help me with assassination missions. Nothing wrong with that. But if they are AFK and making money, that's not cool.

Its similar but you need to take it to an extreme, ie the fight always gravitates to right around you, you are shielded from almost all sides by godship 101 (not the prenerf python) it does huge damage to everything around you but the fact your turrets do 1% hull damage gets you the kill on every single target that you can conceivably reach.

Now combine that with the titanic shield strength you can get on a conda with shield boosters +4 pips and chances are you never have to come back if your playing in solo, I've got 3 shield boosters on a B6 python and i've not had any issues staying near full shields and thats actually in combat lol.
 
Its broken because it generates huge income while being afk, you are right it isn't "zero" risk, but its probably got about as much risk as me boost suiciding on dock (hasn't happened yet, almost certainly won't ever happen) if you had to fly around like you are suggesting then its just cheap but people would be complaining that the cap ships give too much assistance like the police do in RES, it isn't the cheap part thats the problem its cheap + AFK.

Are you 100% sure that they are afk or could they be just tanking?

Be it a cheap way to kill or tanking in a combat zone players have a lot more chance of dying then you have boosting into a dock. Just because you have not done it does not mean it will never happen.

FD always come down on the side of the serial complainers so why not remove all capital ships from the game just to make the moaners happy. Its a game get over it.
 
Are you 100% sure that they are afk or could they be just tanking?

Be it a cheap way to kill or tanking in a combat zone players have a lot more chance of dying then you have boosting into a dock. Just because you have not done it does not mean it will never happen.

FD always come down on the side of the serial complainers so why not remove all capital ships from the game just to make the moaners happy. Its a game get over it.


your the sort of person thats gonna need a video to prove how stupid this whole thing is and i'm not going to go dirty my hands by taking one, I also can't prove if they are afk or just tanking, I just know you can do it by going AFK - I can't go into their instance and move them around with my ship, as they will be in solo to get their own capital ship/spawns.
 
I am just saying that you can make it virtually risk free. That conda has triple the shield strength of 7A (and also triple the armor I think?) and you can just leave it sitting there for 1 hour or so, come back, press a button to start the SCB (maybe? I dont think it even needs SCB tbqh), leave again (I should replace 1 HRP with AFMU too...). Speed and manouverability does not matter as this thing is build to just sit inside that capship gap.

Lets call it exploit or something else if cheating is not technically correct.

You don't need SCBs. The capital ship clears enemy ships faster than they respawn, so you get short periods of no combat, and your shields recharge normally.
 
I am just saying that you can make it virtually risk free. That conda has triple the shield strength of 7A (and also triple the armor I think?) and you can just leave it sitting there for 1 hour or so, come back, press a button to start the SCB (maybe? I dont think it even needs SCB tbqh), leave again (I should replace 1 HRP with AFMU too...). Speed and manouverability does not matter as this thing is build to just sit inside that capship gap.

Lets call it exploit or something else if cheating is not technically correct.

I will correct you a little. you actually have 4 times your normal shield. So everybody who adopts your outfitting and goes into a combat zone is a cheat. Hmm nice to think that a possible 4000 players are cheating (in your opinion) just because they may kill around a capital ship.

I have to say, if it was possible to tank it for as long as you are saying then its clear that they are using the games mechanics to play the game . If that means staying in one place and keeping an eye on you ship, power levels, shield, shield boosts and anything which means I could possibly loose my shield and hull I wouldn't call it AKFing.

There is clearly no point anybody objecting to anybody when they call a possible 4000 players cheats just because they do not like them playing in solo or group mode.

Next people will be saying that FDev should delete solo and group.

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your the sort of person thats gonna need a video to prove how stupid this whole thing is and i'm not going to go dirty my hands by taking one, I also can't prove if they are afk or just tanking, I just know you can do it by going AFK - I can't go into their instance and move them around with my ship, as they will be in solo to get their own capital ship/spawns.

so you have Zero evidence to back up your claims except for people who seem to openly display the way how they cheat/exploit the game. Shouldn't you be complaining to Fdev about these people who are clearly cheating/exploiting rather than coming on the forum and tainting every player who has taken part in a community event. Calling 4000 players cheats just because you say you have seen a video is unforgivable. Clearly the video maker has a name? If so Report them to Fdev and see when Fdev do about it, they will just move them to solo so they can keep cheating.
 
Frankly, the current system of assigning kill rights is dumb.

Figure out how the target died (hull or module), pick the pc or npc that did the greatest damage to the hull or module, award them the credit as the MVP for that fight, done.

The capital ship farming is even worse than seeking luxuries farming.
 
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