Never been to Empire space, what's it like?
It scares me as I am a Jedi
Never been there just picked up a few empire bounties with the KWS.
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Newcomer / Intro To Fellow Noobs ! Exploration pays!!!
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Never been there just picked up a few empire bounties with the KWS.
LHS 3447 system has (at least) two stations with shipyards. One sells Adders. Between them both, you can get most any ship you want.
Lithari, if you are talking about the whole Exploration side of the game, you could not be more wrong. A T-6 with an explorer load out is about 4.5 million cheap when compared to other supposed 'more capable ships'.
Also, you don't have to make a stupid amount of jumps to make decent credits. Heck, there are guys still turning up new planets that have not been discovered in civilized space. But even that does not matter, as Universal Cartographics will pay you well for 'updated information' on a system no matter how many others have also reported the same information.
You can make a tidy sum, simply by incorporating system scanning into whatever else you are doing. One of the biggest misconceptions about exploration is that you have to fly out into the 'boonies' for several days before you can start making credits. That is so wrong, you will be surprised at what is on your doorstep.
Perhaps, the picture has been skewed somewhat by tales of a small handful of pilots who are heading out to the far reaches of the galaxy. You don't need to do that at all. Most of us who are doing so, are doing so for more reasons then just discovering things. We have a particular mind-set I guess.
Just fit a decent d-scanner to your ship, and start just pinging a system asyou pass through, doing what ever you are doing and watch your credits build up
4.5mil.......cheap???
that is not cheap......to me, 100k isn't cheap, i have read all the guides on here, bulletin boards......they only give kill missions that offer 100k+ and even 250k or something or even more to kill a named target....never trading missions....EVER, i tried exploration, too long winded, after spending hours scanning loads of systems, i only gained around 25k.
I tried bounty hunting.......but thats changing the subject, i honestly do not find this exploration stuff to be viable in a sidewinder and the fact that a T6 i believe has a massive jump range, which means, you just....jump to 20ly and scan, moving away from your station to sell the stuff on, scanning more and more, exploring is only really viable with a good jump range.
It seems like i will be stuck with doing food and biowaste runs, netting only 500-1000cr per round trip.....but its better to just having repair bills from failed bounty hunting attempts and endless fuel bills from sidewinder exploration attempts.
that is not cheap......to me, 100k isn't cheap, i have read all the guides on here, bulletin boards......they only give kill missions that offer 100k+ and even 250k or something or even more to kill a named target....never trading missions....EVER, i tried exploration, too long winded, after spending hours scanning loads of systems, i only gained around 25k.
I tried bounty hunting.......but thats changing the subject, i honestly do not find this exploration stuff to be viable in a sidewinder and the fact that a T6 i believe has a massive jump range, which means, you just....jump to 20ly and scan, moving away from your station to sell the stuff on, scanning more and more, exploring is only really viable with a good jump range.
It seems like i will be stuck with doing food and biowaste runs, netting only 500-1000cr per round trip.....but its better to just having repair bills from failed bounty hunting attempts and endless fuel bills from sidewinder exploration attempts.
Firstly Lithari, Stop trading food and biowaste! You need to find a good extraction station and an industrial station and just trade minerals and mining extractors between them. But honest, try looking beyond the numbers of credit building.
Currently, I am 2,377 Ly away from the closest station to me. And I am flying an Uber Sidewinder! Well a Stripped down Sidewinder, even had to dump the shield Jenny and then 2, million spent on exploration kit, and most of that going on an Advanced Scanner (1.5 mill). Why? Because I can. Because I want my character to be remembered as one of those guys who flew a Sidey to the end of the galaxy and back. Or at the least that 'idiot' who went on about trying to fly a Sidey to the end of the galaxy! So long as I can be an 'idiot' in an entertaining way it it turns out to be the latter case.
Oh, and take it from me, having a 20Ly range is the absolute minimum you need to go deep space exploring. Currently I am working with a 20.5Ly jump range with a 60Ly fuel tank. That actually adds a strategic ellement to the whole thing.
It wont cost you 4 mil to be able to go exploring, but will if you want the advanced scanner where you can pick up every astronomical body in the system with one ping ("One ping only Vasili")
However you can do it with a Hauler and a BDS, although it takes more effort and skill, and not without a little bit of luck. It's not a case of jumping into a system and randomly flying around banging on the BDS, as with it's limited range you're going to struggle with that approach.
You need to use the parallax method of looking for "stars" moving against the background which can be seen better at the edge of your display. Also if you see a FSD wake in a strange place far from known objects, then chances are it's a NPC jumping away from another astronomical body.
It's hard work, but i'm enjoying the challenge at the moment. As an example i've just explored a system with 2 stars and about 10 planets/moons and the data was worth 22k. As it sound like you are as fiscally challenged as I am, i think you 'll agree that's a decent amount of green.
You can pick up a Hauler for under 50k IIRC, ditch the single pulse laser upgrade the FSD and change the modules to Class D (not that expensive to be honest) and just head away from the crowd.
I'm sure that you've seen this but here's a link to Nutter's excellent exploration guide.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=81653
And don't forget to have fun out there.
Tried that route with the extraction and industrial stations, while i came up with profit from the extractors, i got losses with all the minerals.....oh well, back to my food/waste trading route....atleast that gives a profit.
Just have to second this guys.
This is an excellent guide to exploration. Even I have been taught some valuable lessons on how to do things right. Made me realise just how lucky I have been! Well worth reading, and watching the videos!
I don't know much about exploration yet but I have a feeling that one would make a lot more from combats per hour vs. exploration.
If you're outfittings are good, you can take out an Anaconda within 15 mins or less on your own. Correct me if wrong, that means 48,000cr in your pocket per Anaconda.
Take out 4 of them, you have 192,000 within 1 hour and probably still have some time left to shoot out smaller ships.
If you're outfittings are good, you can take out an Anaconda within 15 mins or less on your own. Correct me if wrong, that means 48,000cr in your pocket per Anaconda.
Take out 4 of them, you have 192,000 within 1 hour and probably still have some time left to shoot out smaller ships.
That's all good advice and the bounties are usually higher than 48k per conda, you certainly can earn a lot more per hour hunting bounties than exploring I suspect. Bounty hunting is a great step up for those who don't want to mine or trade.
The OP is saying that Exploring takes very little effort and is a great past time for the newbie who's skills and ship may not be up to the rigours of downing cap ships. You can earn a good 5k-10k per system with just the basic discovery scanner and you can do that quite quickly so it's ideal for a newbie to learn basic piloting skills, navigation and to get a few creds together.
Yes that is exactly what I meant
But I waffled a bit - Think I was a bit lost in the moment and turned it in to something of a diary entry
Never been to Empire space, what's it like?
It scares me as I am a Jedi
I play the opposed and avoid fed missions.
unfortunately the carto graphics doesn't take in account to whom you sell your data too.
still I keep on selling it only to the imperials.
and hope this will still be implemented.
or at least explained why its not there.
exploration remains pretty meaningless as it is now.
In my opinion it should influence your reputation to a faction of your choice.
maybe when we get to walk around it will gain depth , cos the AI must have an identity.
Sorry, but i have to disagree with that. The OP is in a basically equipped sidewinder so taking down an Anaconda solo isn't as option. I remember however getting an "assist" on one early on and luckily got a very nice bounty from it. In my, admittedly limited, experience Anacondas don't chain spawn and to be honest the vast majority of the ones that I have seen and tried to nab with the Feds help have warped out as soon as you've done any meaningful damage to them. So i think that your premise of 4 'condas per hour is a little unrealistic.
Personally I'm not interested in the creds per hour grind rate, rather whether I'm enjoying the way I'm playing. I enjoy exploring and I was hopefully giving some hope that you can do it cheaply. I'm doing some BHing at the moment, but plan on a 2-300ly hop into Empire space to cash in my outstanding bounties, and do a little exploring along the way.
I've been trolling around in my nearly stock Sidey for about 12 hours or so game time over the last ten days, and have raised about 250K. Haven't gone that far out, not found any un-named systems yet, but still having fun. Pondering trading up to an Adder so I have room for the surface scanner with some of my earnings.
You need to be about 500LY, or closer if you are above or below the median line (think 3D not 2D) before you find an undiscovered. 1,000LY out they will all be undiscovered provided you are not heading for somewhere popular like a nebula.
It is achievable but not unrealistic.
I took out 3 condas and was working on the fourth already within the same hour, but not solo though. There were NPCs.
Look out for targets with shields already offline and perhaps have already taken some hull damages. Lock in and blast away. With the same attitude on condas you'll get the fourth one.
Fair enough, it's just not been my experience. I've found that I rarely get 'condas appearing at Nav Beacons. I'm not sure if things have changed or whether i'm just in a better system but I'm getting more Wanted NPCs than before, but they are mainly in Sidies, Eagles and Cobras with the occasional drop ship. I had one Anaconda to be fair on Monday, but he did the jump out before I could trash him bit. Pity it was worth 72k. I was averaging 3k - 20k per bounty, though did have a couple of 100cr and one 32k.
Have just recently upgraded to an Adder and it is a big improvement over the sidewinder in everything except dog fighting (although it is no slouch at maneuverability) Much more cargo space and with only modest upgrades a reasonable improvement in range and jump distance - I love mine