Does Smuggling acummulate with Trading to calculate our Trade Rank, or not?

[Ludo Madrid]

Just this question.

My trade rank is Merchant with 17,000,000 CR in Trading (as you can see in the Statistics Panel). But recently I managed to smuggle more than 18,000,000 CR, but my trade rank has not changed.

So?

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Nope. trading only AFAIK

 

[andyraptor]

When they announced the race to Elite winners they included blackmarket (smuggled) amounts in the trade figures .... so my answer would be ~ yes

But Mad Mike -may be right as well !

 

[Ludo Madrid]

Nope. trading only AFAIK

Thanks! It would be great to be both accumulative for our trade rank.

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When they announced the race to Elite winners they included blackmarket (smuggled) amounts in the trade figures .... so my answer would be ~ yes

Thanks! Although it is strange that, in this case, my rank hasn't changed with my recent incursions in the smuggling activity ;-)

 

[andyraptor]

Let's go with Mad Mikes answer

 

[Duckfather]

When they announced the race to Elite winners they included blackmarket (smuggled) amounts in the trade figures .... so my answer would be ~ yes

This. I found it interesting that the black market figures were also included in the stats for the announcement. I have a suspicion that, like all three of the ranks, there is a main contributing factor (trade profits for trade, exploration profits for exploration etc), but there's also a minor factor which also influences the rank, such as black market profits in this case (and systems visited in the case of Exploration).

This would explain why people seem to attain ranks at slightly different trade profit levels and there doesn't seem to be any exact threshold to pass

 

[Ludo Madrid]

This. I found it interesting that the black market figures were also included in the stats for the announcement. I have a suspicion that, like all three of the ranks, there is a main contributing factor (trade profits for trade, exploration profits for exploration etc), but there's also a minor factor which also influences the rank, such as black market profits in this case (and systems visited in the case of Exploration).

This would explain why people seem to attain ranks at slightly different trade profit levels and there doesn't seem to be any exact threshold to pass

Thanks! I really would like to understand the logic behind this, because I'd suppose that is the Pilots Federation who assign ranks to us, the Pilots ;-)

 

[andyraptor]

This. I found it interesting that the black market figures were also included in the stats for the announcement. I have a suspicion that, like all three of the ranks, there is a main contributing factor (trade profits for trade, exploration profits for exploration etc), but there's also a minor factor which also influences the rank, such as black market profits in this case (and systems visited in the case of Exploration).

This would explain why people seem to attain ranks at slightly different trade profit levels and there doesn't seem to be any exact threshold to pass

without straying to far from the thread topic

Combat numbers varied by quite large margins - may have been target pilot level ....ie harmless, expert etc ? but from memory - combat bonds were quoted ?

 

[Ludo Madrid]

without straying to far from the thread topic

Combat numbers varied by quite large margins - may have been target pilot level ....ie harmless, expert etc ? but from memory - combat bonds were quoted ?

I think yes, they are.

 

[Duckfather]

without straying to far from the thread topic

Combat numbers varied by quite large margins - may have been target pilot level ....ie harmless, expert etc ? but from memory - combat bonds were quoted ?

I don't know about combat, but I definitely know that I got Mostly Aimless in Exploration simply by doing rare trade runs. I passed through ~700 systems without even having a scanner on board and got that rank!

 

[Gramps]

^^^ I agree with Duckfather, I think it's a mix of your earnings with the most weight given to Trading Profits

 

[Simi Kusoni]

My trade ranking went up a few when I tried trading out and made ~1m profit.

Since then I've smuggled 40-50m cr and it hasn't budged, so I'm going to assume smuggling has no impact.

*EDIT, checked and it's actually 500k traded, 46m smuggled:

 

[EddyRockSteady]

Smuggling has zero effect on trade rank.

 

[Ludo Madrid]

My trade ranking went up a few when I tried trading out and made ~1m profit.

Since then I've smuggled 40-50m cr and it hasn't budged, so I'm going to assume smuggling has no impact.

*EDIT, checked and it's actually 500k traded, 46m smuggled:

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Thanks! I think this is the clear proof that smuggling does not influence in our trade rank!

[SUGGESTION TO DEVS] Please, consider smuggling as a real and positive factor in the calculus of the Trade Rank A lot of us would like to be 'han-solos' in the dark of the void...

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

iirc those smashing the seeking luxuries did millions of "trade" but it did not budge their trader rank, only added to their smuggling.

hell rather than have it add too trade, I would like 2 more elite ranking......... 1 for smuggler and 1 for pirate.

 

[Ludo Madrid]

iirc those smashing the seeking luxuries did millions of "trade" but it did not budge their trader rank, only added to their smuggling.

hell rather than have it add too trade, I would like 2 more elite ranking......... 1 for smuggler and 1 for pirate.

Great idea I'd like to see those new ranks in E: D

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Great idea I'd like to see those new ranks in E: D

I am going off tangent here, but I do worry that by the time we get to level 2 and 3 scans on planets and all the other good stuff I may already be getting close to elite........ I know the game does not magically stop on hitting elite, but its nice to have goals to work to, so i do hope goals keep getting added in, even if only working to earn unique skins etc.

 

[Ludo Madrid]

I am going off tangent here, but I do worry that by the time we get to level 2 and 3 scans on planets and all the other good stuff I may already be getting close to elite........ I know the game does not magically stop on hitting elite, but its nice to have goals to work to, so i do hope goals keep getting added in, even if only working to earn unique skins etc.

I'm totally agree with your agument here. So, don't you think that have 5 ranks instead of just 3 would be nice to give more life and duration to E: D?

(sorry for my bad English!)

 

[Ben Ryder]

Thanks! I think this is the clear proof that smuggling does not influence in our trade rank!

[SUGGESTION TO DEVS] Please, consider smuggling as a real and positive factor in the calculus of the Trade Rank A lot of us would like to be 'han-solos' in the dark of the void...

+ 1 Drop the developers a note. You should get something for all that effort, certainly more substantial than a badge. Good job on the smuggling Sir!

I doubt the pilots federation would be giving out badges for theft, piracy, robbery, smuggling etc. (the kind of things you keep quiet from the chaps that payout the bounties!)

 

[Ludo Madrid]

I doubt the pilots federation would be giving out badges for theft, piracy, robbery, smuggling etc. (the kind of things you keep quiet from the chaps that payout the bounties!)

Hahaha you're abolsutely right!