Victims of Piracy Support Group

[Executive]

but... how DARE he not play exactly as the pirate would like him to.... Must have been crazy!

What pirates want is reasonable, authentic and believable gameplay -> which is in direct contradiction with the interests of most(!) tryha... traders: Cr/hr, grind, grind, grind.
A pilot that prefers to DIE over some tons of cargo can hardly be taken serious and don't tell me this is "fun" or "reasonable". It isn't, it is simply stupid.

"Hurr, gurna die so dat pirurte gits nuttn, durr!"
That's how these tryhards appear to a pirate who just wants some cargo and a small talk.
And don't even try to claim that "all pirates shoot and murder on sight!!!11" cause they don't.
Most probably only shoot on sight because FSD recharge times are a joke and every trader tries to run (effectively throwing his life away in that moment).

A spiral of stupidity that can only be broken if traders finally understand they are in a game with piracy and accept that they had their chance (to prevent this) in super cruise.
You got intercepted, now pay up - or die. Don't be annoyed just because the game offers stupid and not thought-through 'features' like:
NO CONSEQUENCES FOR DYING.
(Can't be mentioned enough, really.)

An honourable pirate would not be a pirate.

How deep...

Some people would rather die on feet than live on their knees. Starting to see the pattern?

Oh sure, you'd rather die when someone robs you, throw your life away, all you have... because that robber can not have your beautiful purse... or false pride.

They don't do it for the money. There are much easier ways to make money.
They don't do it for the challenge. If they fight its usually someone much weaker than them.
Why do they do it?

Funny thing though.

Most pirates look for a thrilling human interaction in this otherwise so dead, empty and shallow game...
Traders usually don't care for that and just want profit, profit, profit. Yes, yes, "trading is so much fun!" come on...
Sooo... the actual lunatics might not be the pirates here, but the anti-social loners who only care about numbers instead of interaction.

 

[Pendra]

It is not a thing because playing pure escort is freak boring. Nothing ever happens because of the low number of pirates...
The game should be called Elite : Very peacefull .

Never go full !

 

[SeregDuin]

There is more skill involved in piracy than any other aspect of this game.

I can't speak from experience with ED, I've hated piracy in this game, but in other games I've done it because I enjoy hunting players. That sense of working out the best spot, finding players and sneaking up on them without being noticed etc.

Even if during the combat phase you are in a superior ship, that is not the challenging aspect of piracy.

Fair enough and of course you have to expect people to fight back.

 

[Simi Kusoni]

Fair enough and of course you have to expect people to fight back.

Yeah, and personally I don't even have an issue with people essentially suiciding if they really want to, so long as it costs them and they are forced to make a sacrifice if they want to deny the pirate loot.

What I personally don't agree with in this game is that if you do need to take someone's cargo by force due to them fighting, you will realistically only get a few pieces due to the mechanics behind looting. That is just silly.

What they should do is greatly increase the drop rate from limpets/damaged hatches. Make it drop much faster so it's closer together, maybe drop crates of "5xPalladium" or whatever, increase the speed at which you can safely scoop and fix the damn issue with bits of the hull on certain ships hitting cans.

Or, even better, scrap the cargo mechanics entirely and design something functional.

 

[Tovrin]

You know, I built a site for people to report pirate activities so bounty hunters can deal with these criminal scum? People just need to USE it.

See Sig!

 

[Executive]

You know, I built a site for people to report pirate activities so bounty hunters can deal with these criminal scum? People just need to USE it.

See Sig!

Now this is great!

 

[Simi Kusoni]

You know, I built a site for people to report pirate activities so bounty hunters can deal with these criminal scum? People just need to USE it.

See Sig!

I've reported myself, you're welcome.

 

[Draxxen]

You know, I built a site for people to report pirate activities so bounty hunters can deal with these criminal scum? People just need to USE it.

See Sig!

Do you have a sticky with this site info?
I haven't seen it.

 

[Vasious]

Flying in Open?

Worried about Pirates

Need to Blockade run an active Super Cruise Blockade by PCs?


What I learnt from the Khaka community Goal

The Frame Shift bunny hope

Seems Khaka in open is crawling with pro CSG ships, including Imperial factions *For shame, for shame*
2 Couriers a Vulure or two and a Fer De Lance
So to Blockade run:

Fly at Qureshi Station at maximum speed in super cruise.
When you see one of them target you and move to interdict.
Emergency stop -> FAOFFF and Boost -> Shut down drives and shields and rig for silent running, drift.
Even if they follow your wake you will have drifted away and only by luck will they find you.
You will be too cold and far away to show up on scanners

After a few minutes rig for full power, engage SC and fly at the station,Repeat until you are in the 1000 km disengage

For the Bold taunt the Pirates as you make your hopes over the local comms

Granted took me a 20 minutes to cross from the star to the station but I made it

 

[SeregDuin]

What pirates want is reasonable, authentic and believable gameplay -> which is in direct contradiction with the interests of most(!) tryha... traders: Cr/hr, grind, grind, grind.
A pilot that prefers to DIE over some tons of cargo can hardly be taken serious and don't tell me this is "fun" or "reasonable". It isn't, it is simply stupid.

"Hurr, gurna die so dat pirurte gits nuttn, durr!"
That's how these tryhards appear to a pirate who just wants some cargo and a small talk.
And don't even try to claim that "all pirates shoot and murder on sight!!!11" cause they don't.
Most probably only shoot on sight because FSD recharge times are a joke and every trader tries to run (effectively throwing his life away in that moment).

A spiral of stupidity that can only be broken if traders finally understand they are in a game with piracy and accept that they had their chance (to prevent this) in super cruise.
You got intercepted, now pay up - or die. Don't be annoyed just because the game offers stupid and not thought-through 'features' like:
NO CONSEQUENCES FOR DYING.
(Can't be mentioned enough, really.)



How deep...


Oh sure, you'd rather die when someone robs you, throw your life away, all you have... because that robber can not have your beautiful purse... or false pride.



Funny thing though.

Most pirates look for a thrilling human interaction in this otherwise so dead, empty and shallow game...
Traders usually don't care for that and just want profit, profit, profit. Yes, yes, "trading is so much fun!" come on...
Sooo... the actual lunatics might not be the pirates here, but the anti-social loners who only care about numbers instead of interaction.

You want authentic believable gameplay but you can't accept the authentic anger of authentic people who don't agree with you. You don't want authentic play because this is it mate!
What you want is for people to play the way you want . TOO BAD we won't. We'll play the way WE want.
The quotes that you dismiss so flippantly are from real people in real life who stood up against real oppression and DID die for real rather than submit. You want authentic you got authentic. If I get my way authentic revolution against pirates.
And I certainly don't appreciate your insensitive belittling of the mentally disabled - absolutely disgusting.

 

[Executive]

You want authentic believable gameplay but you can't accept the authentic anger of authentic people who don't agree with you. You don't want authentic play because this is it mate!
What you want is for people to play the way you want . TOO BAD we won't. We'll play the way WE want.
The quotes that you dismiss so flippantly are from real people in real life who stood up against real oppression and DID die for real rather than submit. You want authentic you got authentic. If I get my way authentic revolution against pirates.
And I certainly don't appreciate your insensitive belittling of the mental disabled - absolutely disgusting.

I just noticed you have reading comprehension problems but...

And I certainly don't appreciate your insensitive belittling of the mental disabled - absolutely disgusting.

Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Vasious]

You want authentic believable gameplay but you can't accept the authentic anger of authentic people who don't agree with you. You don't want authentic play because this is it mate!
What you want is for people to play the way you want . TOO BAD we won't. We'll play the way WE want.
The quotes that you dismiss so flippantly are from real people in real life who stood up against real oppression and DID die for real rather than submit. You want authentic you got authentic. If I get my way authentic revolution against pirates.
And I certainly don't appreciate your insensitive belittling of the mental disabled - absolutely disgusting.

It is all costs benefit, when I got a gun in the face, I have them my money.
Best $80 I even parted with.

*edit*

Speaking of which

Thread Title

Don't be Victims!

 

[Jordan Cobalt]

They deserve it ? They don't deserve anything mate. What they deserve is the right to flight or fight as they see fit and the right to see bloody justice (bloody in the sense of a lot of messy splattered blood - not swearing) inflicted on the thieving scum that attacked them (in game blood and justice - not the actual people )

When a pirate says "cargo or death", he should mean it. When word gets out of a pirates empty threats noone will ever take him seriously. Once that happens.........well I don't know what happens, I always keep true to my threats.

 

[SeregDuin]

And don't even try to claim that "all pirates shoot and murder on sight!!!11" cause they don't.

I've gone back over the thread and you know?.. not one single post anywhere in this entire thread ever once says that. None. Not one.

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When a pirate says "cargo or death", he should mean it. When word gets out of a pirates empty threats noone will ever take him seriously. Once that happens.........well I don't know what happens, I always keep true to my threats.

I agree with you totally. Threaten, rob be a pirate, carry out your threats as pirates do and should.
but the guy doesn't "deserve it" . You need to do for credibility and to keep the fear of pirates alive
or your profession dies but don't claim that it is his fault for not complying.
He has every right to fight back or run and he does deserve justice.

 

[Executive]

I've gone back over the thread and you know?.. not one single post anywhere in this entire thread ever once says that. None. Not one.

Really now?
Well, maybe that is why I said: "And don't even try to claim..."
You know...because no one said it (in this thread)... yet.

Amusing.

 

[Jordan Cobalt]

I've gone back over the thread and you know?.. not one single post anywhere in this entire thread ever once says that. None. Not one.

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I agree with you totally. Threaten, rob be a pirate, carry out your threats as pirates do and should.
but the guy doesn't "deserve it" . You need to do for credibility and to keep the fear of pirates alive
or your profession dies but don't claim that it is his fault for not complying.
He has every right to fight back or run and he does deserve justice.

While noone deserves death, there is something darwinian about the death of someone, who cuts of his nose to spite my face.

 

[Executive]

While noone deserves death, there is something darwinian about the death of someone, who cuts of his nose to spite his face.

Beautiful...

 

[SeregDuin]

I just noticed you have reading comprehension problems but...

Don't be ridiculous.

Seriously I have reading comprehension problems. Did you notice the title of the thread. Seems to me if you were able to comprehend what you are reading you would not even be in this thread.

Also seems to me - no consequence for dying - no consequence for piracy - seems pretty balanced to me.

 

[Galdatron]

Not sure I really understand what the OP is so upset about. He was emotionally driven to post about it here in the forums which surely is a good thing? This kind of pvp interaction should be cherished. The AI won't do that.

Still, there's always solo if it really does feel like a personal violation when a player RP's with you in this way. Perhaps take an escort next time?

 

[SeregDuin]

Not sure I really understand what the OP is so upset about. He was emotionally driven to post about it here in the forums which surely is a good thing? This kind of pvp interaction should be cherished. The AI won't do that.

Still, there's always solo if it really does feel like a personal violation when a player RP's with you in this way. Perhaps take an escort next time?

You know I am seriously starting to wonder if any of you actually read anything before you start flapping your trap.