But he is right on the issue. You basically came out stating that "if you don't have an open mind you will not enjoy the game" and that "experienced flight stick people have perceived notions on how ships should feel or controls should be". I mean you are basically trying to make it look like, maybe that was not your intention, that experienced flight stick people don't have an open mind. When in fact its people like them that help balance stuff like the controls, because they got countless hours using the peripherals. I trust them more than the current people that are balancing the controls because they thought using "hat switches" to control gimbals was a good idea, until they tried it.
The facts are even in your statement, the size reduction in how mounts work does nothing for controller balance and never will. You have to base the facts that the mouse crowd is playing a completely different game than joystick players when it comes to gimbals. ESP is nothing but a fail attempt by CIG to make a Joystick work like a mouse. What they need to do is recognize that if they leave it as is, gimbal + flight control combined for mouse, there never will be any controler parady let alone balance.
They need to either separate flight from aim on mouse or give gimbals to AI control. It's simple as that.
There is a problem when majority of the leader boards show that mouse is the most dominant controller type for people to stay competitive. It's not just that the controls are imbalanced, there is TOO MUCH focus on AIM and not enough focus on FLYING. This is not FPS, its flight.
no he is not right, given his context. Which has big influence on the case.
My first flight stick that I purchased I did so for SC, turns out it was crap for SC (along with flight sticks in general), then used it for ED and loved it. SC is not about flying your ship its about aiming your guns, makes it great for mouse, horrible for flight sticks.
So i have to disagree with you. Your response basically comes off as, "if you don't like SC's flight, then its because you don't have an open mind". So basically the same trash responses that get thrown around, being critical of SC, well you didn't do your research, don't like the direction SC is going, well you have not been following it as long, pointing out the P2W, well... hey look at all the money CIG have brought in.
Instead of making generalizations to pidgin hole every single bit of criticism perhaps for a change if the concern and criticism was actually addressed, instead of just coming up with another blanket excuse to invalidate their opinion.
If it SC is your first joystick experience. It means you are a beginning pilot try to mastering joystick.
So in that context mayby mouse gamers aren't better, due to mouse but it might be your own pilot skills.
My pilot skills might be below average it a very long time when I was into singleplayer aircombat sims. My joystick experience is way far into the past. In Mplay BF3 & 4 a much more arcady aircombat and I suck I know lots are better then me.
It might be that mouse makes gamer from a wide skill base more into a narrow band. It more about reaction and faster aiming.
But Joystick can be still the master HID. But you need to be a hardcore veteran Pilot simmer. Coming from the current and established aircombat sims. Also lot of talent, some got a lot of flight feel.
And mouser then might won't have a chance.
Most gamers blame the game but look last to there own limitations.
If I would made a space sim. Als I am bit captain slow and 40+ I would avoid MMO and dogfighting in space. I would take a specific mix of fiction and science to fit my gameplay. And it would not be a planes in space dogfight combat.
Fighter pilot are young man highly trained with many hard training hours on a stick. The old once are the instructors and veteran pilots .
Fighter pilots are high selected people for there skills to put multy million $ jet fighter on the line or miljard $ like B2.
I won't even come close to that. I might have no chance to mouse gamer to. As I do lack the pilot skills.
How ever probably DB to so did fixed that by cripple mouse gamers.
I don't think Pilot aces with joystick, have problems with mouse gamers.
But those that do might be not good at piloting.
Mouse is extremely important. ED choose to cripple handicap it in favor of novice pilot with stick like us. But PC Mouse is the default HID to always expect gamers will have. Never joystick gamers coming to ED get avery hard time wich lead to buy sticks or rage quit forever and flame it.
No balancing isn't a easy thing.
To me both games are way of. But SC has squadron 42.
I would keep my warthog for DCS A10A simulation. Bought it for ED.
Might buy a stick specialy for BF4 to on PS3.
