New Nvidia Graphics card needed, ~$150 to spend.

I need a new Nvidia graphics card, my current Nvidia card is a GTI 610 I think.

Best frame rate I have seen is 20fps.

I only want to spend about $150, probably a GTX740?

Anyone using one of these?
What sort of fps are you seeing?
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No a GTX 740 is horrible beyond compare (scratch that, your 610 is even worse). The fastest card you can get for $150 is the R9 270 but you'll need a 6-pin adapter on your PSU. If you don't have one of those the 750 Ti is your best bet.
 
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By insisting on NVIDIA he's potentially doing himself out of 10-15 FPS, all due to brand snobbery.

Pretty much this, from a quick check of the prices on US Amazon, the best Nvidia you will get is a 750Ti compared to the R9 270 at the same price which is an average of approx 33% faster. Just go AMD until you have money to throw away.

No a GTX 740 is horrible beyond compare (scratch that, your 610 is even worse). The fastest card you can get for $150 is the R9 270 but you'll need a 6-pin adapter on your PSU. If you don't have one of those the 750 Ti is your best bet.

I am yet to buy a GPU that hasn't come with the molex to 6-pin adapter.
 
IMO, nVidia higher price includes better drivers and support but, that's just me. AMD seems to always lag behind nVidia but, whatever you can afford will work. I'd still wait and save more money instead of wasting $150 on a 750 or 270 card.
 
I am yet to buy a GPU that hasn't come with the molex to 6-pin adapter.

I probably had one 10 years ago or so but not since I had the 6600GT - since they've always needed at least 1 6-pin PCIe.

The HD 7750 set a new bar for performance in the adapter-less bracket a couple of years ago though, and then the 750 Ti really did last year. Graphics performance is increasing faster than games and monitor resolution can keep up, that's why lower end cards go a bit further these days.
 
True, but from experience I know it's better to have an open mind when it comes to GPU manufacturers. I'll happily buy either NVIDIA or ATI depending on which is offering better bang for buck at the time. By insisting on NVIDIA he's potentially doing himself out of 10-15 FPS, all due to brand snobbery.

I've read the OP many times and I did not see anywhere in it where they said they would not look at other manufacturers. So not sure why you put it down to brand snobbery?

Other than that I agree with you about your suggestion about buying the one that offers the better performance.
 
I probably had one 10 years ago or so but not since I had the 6600GT - since they've always needed at least 1 6-pin PCIe.

The HD 7750 set a new bar for performance in the adapter-less bracket a couple of years ago though, and then the 750 Ti really did last year. Graphics performance is increasing faster than games and monitor resolution can keep up, that's why lower end cards go a bit further these days.

As a previous owner of a 7750, I meant; I am yet to buy a GPU that needed a 6-pin connection that didn't come with the adapter for the 4-pin molex. :)
 
IMO, nVidia higher price includes better drivers and support but, that's just me. AMD seems to always lag behind nVidia but, whatever you can afford will work.

If this were true it would be seen in the benchmarks. The R9 270 is around 30% faster than the 750 Ti for not much more money. No amount of "better drivers" or support is gonna make that up, it's a whole level of card ahead.

I'd still wait and save more money instead of wasting $150 on a 750 or 270 card.

I get 120 fps in space and 55+ in RES with a slower card than the 270 (yes on max). If you have a 1080p screen then you really just start to waste money on cards that are much faster.
 
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I've read the OP many times and I did not see anywhere in it where they said they would not look at other manufacturers. So not sure why you put it down to brand snobbery?

He didn't mean the OP.

Other than that I agree with you about your suggestion about buying the one that offers the better performance.

That's what anybody who wasn't a fanboy of either would do. Or at least, the best performance for the price. Using any other metric is basically snobbery though you could make a case for preferring quiet cards I suppose as that is something that can be a quality of life improvement.
 
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For the given budget there's probably only GTX 750Ti 2GB from NVidia GPUs that is worth considering for ED. However, AMD R7 265 might be a slightly better option performance wise in the same price range with R9 270 being slightly above the price given price limit. But I would seriously consider investing $50 more for GTX 960 if it is possible or AMD R9 280 as these two would give you some head room for the future.
 
With Current Nvidia cards, the 1st number is the generation (600 series, 700, 900) whilst the second number is roughly how powerful it is. 50s are generally more or less acceptable, but not great. 60 is the first decent gamer card for the generation, 70, 80 are the high end. If you can get a 760, 770, or 780 used or refurbished then you have a chance of getting a good deal in your price range, with the higher second number being less and less likely in that price range. Ti or SC are usually higher rated versions of the card. You can get a 960, which was just released, for about $200 if you spend 5-10 minutes shopping for a deal. (Slickdeals.net can help). I'm personally planning to get 2 960s this year to run multiple monitors on something faster than my current 560ti pair. 2 current-gen cards can run up to 5 monitors as a single display, but only if you get the decent, sli-capable ones (and of course your motherboard has to be capable of it as well). Don't waste money on a 740 or 710, those couldn't keep up with a large MS Office graph, much less Elite.
 
With Current Nvidia cards, the 1st number is the generation (600 series, 700, 900) whilst the second number is roughly how powerful it is. 50s are generally more or less acceptable, but not great. 60 is the first decent gamer card for the generation, 70, 80 are the high end. If you can get a 760, 770, or 780 used or refurbished then you have a chance of getting a good deal in your price range, with the higher second number being less and less likely in that price range. Ti or SC are usually higher rated versions of the card. You can get a 960, which was just released, for about $200 if you spend 5-10 minutes shopping for a deal. (Slickdeals.net can help). I'm personally planning to get 2 960s this year to run multiple monitors on something faster than my current 560ti pair. 2 current-gen cards can run up to 5 monitors as a single display, but only if you get the decent, sli-capable ones (and of course your motherboard has to be capable of it as well). Don't waste money on a 740 or 710, those couldn't keep up with a large MS Office graph, much less Elite.

Be wary of the 960's performance at higher resolutions. It has a tiny memory bus (the 960 actually has less memory bandwidth than your current 560 Ti) and 2GB of VRAM isn't great for surround level resolutions either. I'd honestly go with a single 970 over dual 960s any day, especially for anything over 1080p.
 
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I'm on 460sli right now and my game is on high graphics settings. He should always stick to 60's (or 50's at a push) otherwise he will end up having to turn things down on his games. If he cannot afford a 760 then a 660 is fine. The gaming bar isn't that high yet except for a very small number of games. He would get 2 years out of the 660. A 660 is a 750 is a 840 is a 930.
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He should shop around too because a 660 is only £110 here if you buy off the net so he might well be able to get a 760. US prices are a little cheaper than ours too.
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Really, stop lol. I still have a 660 and it still doesn't make the cut. I am looking for a new GPU, and I don't have a fetish towards 4k or mega ultra ini tweaks. I just wanna play with a solid 50+ FPS in most of my games.
And no, he won't get another 2 years from a gpu that's already been on the market for 2 years!
I will say no more... But don't buy a 660. Save up to 960. It's only 50 euros anyway.
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Btw there is no 8xx series on desktop PCs.

I have a 2gb 460sli on high settings in 1320 x 1024 and I'm getting 60fps. I can snapshot and post if you like. Maybe your slowdown is cpu related? I'm on a i5-4690.
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Its almost upgrade time for myself. I have the money for a 980!!!
 
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My Mother Board only has a PCI Express 2.0 x 16 graphics card slot.
So boards that want PCIe 3.0 would be a waste, I think.
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My Mother Board only has a PCI Express 2.0 x 16 graphics card slot.
So boards that want PCIe 3.0 would be a waste, I think.
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That's irrelevant. There is no significant difference between 2.0 and 3.0 performance wise, moreover, there probably is no difference at all. All of the modern GPUs support PCIE 3.0, which is fully backward compatible with 2.0. Nothing to worry about. MB won't limit the performance of the GPU due to this "issue".

Be wary of the 960's performance at higher resolutions. It has a tiny memory bus (the 960 actually has less memory bandwidth than your current 560 Ti) and 2GB of VRAM isn't great for surround level resolutions either. I'd honestly go with a single 970 over dual 960s any day, especially for anything over 1080p.

While I partially agree with that GTX 960 still has a higher texture fill rate than 560Ti. The memory difference is not that large (112 vs 128 just like T6 vs Asp max cargo) if we are speaking of ordinary 560Ti (i.e. not the limited edition one). There are 4GB versions of GTX960, which cost about 100EUR less than GTX 970, however, this is way over OP's budget.

So GTX960 2GB remains a viable option but still exceeds OP's budget. A 3 GB R9 280 might be a better option for the same money.
 
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More info.
My Mother Board only has a PCI Express 2.0 x 16 graphics card slot.
So boards that want PCIe 3.0 would be a waste, I think.
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The 600, 700 and 900 series graphics cards are indeed PCIe-3.0. However not even the top end ones (780, 980, etc) saturate a PCIe-3.0 bus. You will be glad to hear they don't even saturate a PCI-2.0 bus so they will work perfectly fine on a PCI-2.0 x 16 motherboard. The only noticeable catch is you can only have one graphics card plugged in. Two or more PCIe-3.0 graphics cards will saturate a PCI-2.0 bus.
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There is a slight catch you won't notice. Instead of getting 120 frames a second you will be getting about 114 if you plug one of the top ends (780 or 980) into a PCI-2.0 x 16 motherboard. But such a minor drop in frame rate is insignificant considering how many you'll be getting. Your eyes won't be able to detect the difference.
 
If you are going Vnidia, stick to a model number x60 and above, I got a 780 a while back and it runs everything on full settings at 2560x1440.

Also remember that if you are tempted by ATI or another GPU manufacturer, there are compatibility issues with a lot of software and games. I know there will be a load of happy ATI owners out there, but i know for a fact there are a load of unhappy ones that are trying to run certain software and unable to (or functionality is hindered) Sweet FX for an example has issues on certain ATI cards, as do a bunch of 3d DCC packages.
 
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