KWS - Does it realy help??

Beckstation

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I have got myself a very nice Vulture kitted out for Bounty hunting. I know that the KWS is meant to be used when bounty hunting, but what extra would i get from it? Or how does it work exactly? Do i need one? I was hunting at a resource extraction site (at a place called Sinann) were i was collecting 1.4 million in about 45 mins. Would the KWS add much more to that amount of money? Can i please have some help understanding this piece of equipment. Thanks.

- Happy Hunting
 

Extreme_One

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If your KWS-scanned target has bounties in other systems, and you down him, you can claim them when you visit the relevant systems.
 

Beckstation

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How much extra money would i be likely to earn using the KWS then?? If i made 1.5 in a hour without it how much could i make with the kws?
 

scorpyon

scorpyon
Theres no fixed amount extra but with ships such as Condas I have noticed it can be as much as 100k extra bounty

Its not so worth it killing sideys and eagles but for anything larger always scan if you can!
 

darthyank

darthyank
In anarchy, nobody is wanted. You have to have a KWS to get bounties.

And often in a non anarchy system, the pirate is wanted also in another system so sometimes your 10.000 bounty turns into a 25.000 bounty (10.000 in that system and 15 in another).
 

Sentiant

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Hi there, always remember that in Anarchy systems a bounty will never show up (outside of bugs) or infact be gained. The only way you can collect a bounty in Anarchy systems is to use a KWS, get one, there cheap and affordable.
 

NeilF

NeilF
Beckstation said:
I have got myself a very nice Vulture kitted out for Bounty hunting. I know that the KWS is meant to be used when bounty hunting, but what extra would i get from it? Or how does it work exactly? Do i need one? I was hunting at a resource extraction site (at a place called Sinann) were i was collecting 1.4 million in about 45 mins. Would the KWS add much more to that amount of money? Can i please have some help understanding this piece of equipment. Thanks.

- Happy Hunting
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Without a KWS, you will only be notified if a ship is wanted in the current system/juristiction, and only get that bounty.

Let's take two examples:-
1) You're in Federation space and spot a WANTED ship, with a bounty of 10,000CR. You scan it with your KWS and you're told the bounty is 14,000CR. This means the pilot has 4,000CR of bounties in other systems/juristictions. If you now destroy that vessel you'll get 14,000CR instead of 10,000CR.
2) You're in an anarchy system, no pilot is wanted in an anarchy system, so without a KWS scanner you cannot earn a bounty.

note: Remember in non-anarchy systems, unless they are wanted in that system, opening fire is an offense. ie: They may have a huge bounty, but if they are not wanted in the current system, you'll be breaking the law shooting them.
 
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bamber

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Simple answer yes

You can gain quite a significant amount - before I crashed myself recently I had earned over 200000CR in alliance space and 50000Cr in federation space from Nav points in the empire - not sure of the exact breakdown but I would guess I earned more in alliance and federation than I had if I had just shot them up
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Good to be in a Border territory so you can hop over the Border to cash in - unlike me!
 

[VR] Mad Mike

[VR] Mad Mike
for a BHer you should never leave home without one!. it can be as little as zero increase on your bounty, to as much as...... however long a piece of string is.

the canny player will keep a clean record in the system he calls home, and without a KWS will show as clean if in that system... with one you get to see all his naughty deeds throughout the milkyway.
 

Red Kite

Red Kite
The only problem with a KWS is having time to use it. Since it is in a fire-group you may have to take some of your weapons off-line to "fire" it and keep on the target for the requisite time. If you are already in combat that can be tricky. I do my bounty-hunting at nav beacons, less hectic than RES's, although you probably don't get so many high value targets. At a nav beacon you can usually close up and run the scan while the target is still not actually attacking you, although they will react and try to turn away. Definitely worth it in cash terms, especaily if you do get a high-value target such as a python or anaconda, they are often wanted in several places.
 

andyraptor

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I'm just really surprised that you can progress to a Vulture and still be completely ignorant about the advantages or disadvantages of a KWS.... how do u ou do that ?

Did you get someone else to play your account for you.....
 

bamber

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Red Kite said:
The only problem with a KWS is having time to use it. Since it is in a fire-group you may have to take some of your weapons off-line to "fire" it and keep on the target for the requisite time. If you are already in combat that can be tricky. I do my bounty-hunting at nav beacons, less hectic than RES's, although you probably don't get so many high value targets. At a nav beacon you can usually close up and run the scan while the target is still not actually attacking you, although they will react and try to turn away. Definitely worth it in cash terms, especaily if you do get a high-value target such as a python or anaconda, they are often wanted in several places.
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Firegroup 1. Primary Beams secondary KWS,
Firegroup 2. Primary beams, secondary fragment cannon

If already wanted shoot with beams while using KWS and take down shields. then swap to firegroup 2 - You dont have to use the KWS on a wanted target before you fire to get the benefit, so long as you complete before destroying the target
 

RG-870

RG-870
There are no bounties in anarchy systems as there are no local authorities. A KWS scan of an elite pirate Anaconda can also net an additional 100-250k on top of the local bounty. So yes, a KWS does make sense depending on what and where you're hunting.
 

lovely lovely

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andyraptor said:
I'm just really surprised that you can progress to a Vulture and still be completely ignorant about the advantages or disadvantages of a KWS.... how do u ou do that ?

Did you get someone else to play your account for you.....
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Bit harsh there - trading has no need for these.
 

Barton Smith

Barton Smith
Red Kite said:
The only problem with a KWS is having time to use it. Since it is in a fire-group you may have to take some of your weapons off-line to "fire" it and keep on the target for the requisite time. If you are already in combat that can be tricky. I do my bounty-hunting at nav beacons, less hectic than RES's, although you probably don't get so many high value targets. At a nav beacon you can usually close up and run the scan while the target is still not actually attacking you, although they will react and try to turn away. Definitely worth it in cash terms, especaily if you do get a high-value target such as a python or anaconda, they are often wanted in several places.
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I bind my KWS to the same fire button as my lasers, so I'm scanning them at the same time as stripping their shields.
 

Renegade Roach

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andyraptor said:
I'm just really surprised that you can progress to a Vulture and still be completely ignorant about the advantages or disadvantages of a KWS.... how do u ou do that ?

Did you get someone else to play your account for you.....
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People who can't comprehend that not everybody does things the same way as themselves....

On topic: Use one ;)
 

DrakeAurum

DrakeAurum
Just bear in mind that those extra bounties aren't yours until you claim them, and they die with your ship.

Try to do your hunting somewhere close to systems of all three major factions for easy hand-ins, and consider that the time you're spending travelling to other systems to claim a few thousand credits in local bounties could be spent killing more pirates.
 
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Briarée

Briarée
Red Kite said:
The only problem with a KWS is having time to use it. Since it is in a fire-group you may have to take some of your weapons off-line to "fire" it and keep on the target for the requisite time. If you are already in combat that can be tricky. I do my bounty-hunting at nav beacons, less hectic than RES's, although you probably don't get so many high value targets. At a nav beacon you can usually close up and run the scan while the target is still not actually attacking you, although they will react and try to turn away. Definitely worth it in cash terms, especaily if you do get a high-value target such as a python or anaconda, they are often wanted in several places.
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agreed on that, i gave up scanning target yesterday night, because there was way too many cops, couldn't scan before the cops dropped them, and i scan only ASP and bigger.....

this is how ridiculous it has become.

from tonight, i'll hunt in anarchy, just to get rid of those anoying cops
 
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