Been reading this thread through for the past few days and wow...wanted info on Star Citizen but it's mainly a hate fest of biblical proportions. I'm a backer of Project CARS (look it up) and that too get's awful stick from some quarters. Especially when it was early in the project and then did a rewrite of the tyre model which was no small task yet the haters didn't take anything into account and just said the handling sucked with no meaningful real world experience to back it up.
I didn't back E: D I'm not backing Star Citizen. I bought E: D and it's really good so far, massive potential and impressive technically, but many aspects are disappointing for me. I'm looking forward to what Star Citizen will bring to the table to stop FD resting on it's laurels (I REALLY want FPS and planetary landings to come out to flesh out the game more).
But what amazes me the most about this thread is the complaining. And the complete misinterpretation of the meaning of the word "truth" when it's just really "opinions".
I can't say that some of the worries about the handling of the craft aren't worrying...but what mainly worries me is people slagging SC off regarding "realism"....excuse me? How much experience of flying space craft do we all have here?!!!! Neither game is fully a "simulation" of space flight so why all the complaining from Elite fans? As an outsider it's not a good advert for Elite fans. Yes the SC fans are bigging up the game (well the ones who like the direction it's taking). I do understand that some SC fans who do NOT like the direction (there's aspects of Project CARS that I'm not enamoured with) but thems the breaks, deal with it. Don't ruin a thread that should have information on the game. I have the brains to sift out the fanboy comments I don't need overly negative comments to counteract them. All it does is make you look petty to me.
I can understand people not liking the choices CiG are making regarding the handling characteristics, but personally I'm not too happy with the yaw nerf of Elite. I can understand the reasoning to avoid turretting, but It's gone too far IMO and makes the combat "ponderous", whereas SCs looks too far the other way (so basically I think I won't like SCs combat either). But I'm enjoying Elite for what it does (I'm mainly exploring) and many aspects of SC look very intrigueing and it will be brilliant if they pull it off.
Bottom line is in my OPINION neither game has it right for me personally. Both seem to espouse wanting to have the WW2 feeling of combat....but compared to the Xwing series and Freespace series Elite is lacking and SC looks like it'll miss the mark too. I find this disappointing. But Ultimately it's GOOD SC is going a different route to Elite. It's all about choice and different experiences. And Also, HOTAS was developed for Atmosperic flight primarily (dunno about Space shuttle controls!) so to EXPECT it to be the ideal control choice in a "SPACE" combat game is daft IMO. WE have NO idea what will be the ideal control choice for space combat...so complaining that one shouldn't be better than the other makes no sense at all. (especially when words like "simulation" and "realism" are used in those arguments!)
IMO the cost of things right now is irrelevant as it's not a released game so the funds are backing funds. Of course if on release the same systems are in place (i'm not saying it won't, I just have no real idea, like EVERYONE else I don't have a crystal ball) but that would be very disappointing and lose the game a lot of support IMO.
Do I think CiG are biting off more than they can reasonable chew?....at the moment yes. Am I worried about p2W, at the moment yes. Do I need countless comments about it here? No I most certainly do NOT!
Well..LOL I suppose that's all a bit Off topic about the game. So I'll stop there. I know it won't make a jot of difference, but It's a faff to read the same "opinions" usually followed by various uses of the word "truth" in a negative post. When all I want to do is get info on Star Citizen.
Criticise the game, by all means...but THINK how someone sitting on the fence thinks. It's getting to the point where a lot of posts are coming across as "blah blah blah I hate SC" and when that happens even the "reasonable" points get lost amongst all the angst and hate!
So the vanguard is another air-plane in space. Look at all those pointless wing flaps, its not like players are ever going to fly them in atmosphere, and even if you did it would just drop like a rock in real physics. I really wish CIG would create some space ships.
I mean case in point right here!! Well then EVERY space craft should be a cube then as that's the most efficient use of space for humanoids to work in if the craft is only going to operate in a vacuum. <sarcasm> That would make a visually exciting game wouldn't it? Hells teeth man, It's a GAME with a style...pointless complaining right there.
When did I say it was ok to dismiss other posters opinion as long as it doesn't agree with my view of things? Oh right I didn't. Because it is not ok, nor is it ok to dismiss another posters opinion by personal attacks and other outside influences such as calling the poster, Hater, Fanboy, Mad, ignorant, not following enough, or didn't pay enough. All things that are very commonly used in this forum in order to dismiss criticism.
If I'm totally honest....I skip over most of your posts as they just come across as the "blah blah blah I hate SC" sort. If you have decent things to say and decent criticisms say them properly and I'll read them rather than skip over them.
