Newcomer / Intro Can someone explain how heat works?

stoicfury

stoicfury
Have the devs revealed exactly how heat is generated, lost, etc? I'm at a loss for how my ship acquires it, other than using thruster boost, using hyperdrive, and flying close to stars.

For example, normally when I boost my thrusters, I'll get around 5% more heat. Using my FSD I'll gain another 20% or so. But things get weird when at hypercruise at 0 throttle next to a star, resting comfortably at 60% heat. When done, I angle my ship in the opposite direction of the star and throttle up... but then my ship gets more heat, lots more, often +150%. Why is this happening?
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
You've actually figured out most of it. :) Thrusters generate heat, and the FSD generates quite a bit of heat (although a better rated ones generate less). So, when you start to accelerate away from a star, even though the heat of the star is getting less, your ship's thrusters and probably power plant are generating more, so your overall heat level rises. And if you start to FSD jump to another system, your heat will then go up much more. I always try to get my heat levels down to the low 40%, or even in the 30% range before I try to jump to a new system.
 

stoicfury

stoicfury
That's the thing, I have A-rated everything and normally going from hypercruise to hyperdrive only nets +10% max. But for some reason, right after i fuel scoop, the same action nets +150% instead.... why? This seems like a strange design decision if it's purposeful.
 

Faded Glory

Faded Glory
stoicfury said:
That's the thing, I have A-rated everything and normally going from hypercruise to hyperdrive only nets +10% max. But for some reason, right after i fuel scoop, the same action nets +150% instead.... why? This seems like a strange design decision if it's purposeful.
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Hmm, my ships are pretty heat efficient, and go up more than 10%, but 150%, no. As I said, I do SC away from a star for a while, it's probably only 20 seconds or so, and wait till my heat has dropped to around 36%, then I engage the FSD to jump to another system. It did take me a while to get consistent with this, and for me, the key is to know that I am far enough away from the star and my heat levels are genuinely dropping before I try to engage FSD to jump.

Edit: And I am presumably doing the same thing as you, fuel scooping and then disengaging to jump to a different system.
 
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stoicfury

stoicfury
I'm in a Type 6, I read there was a bug with the heat but I thought it was fixed. Could it still have it I guess?
 
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CactuarLOL

CactuarLOL
I've noticed this also, It seems to be when you are within the stars gravity well, It also happens when you try to FSD close to a planet.

As the FSD is effected by gravity (Slowing down drastically when near planets or stars) Its safe to assume that when the FSD activates, it is making your ship go faster then it should be able to within the gravity well, causing the ship to instantly heat up massively. I would recommend moving out of the SOI before engaging your jump drive, If the star (or planet for that matter) is Red on your radar it means y ou are within its SOI.
 

stoicfury

stoicfury
CactuarLOL said:
I've noticed this also, It seems to be when you are within the stars gravity well, It also happens when you try to FSD close to a planet.

As the FSD is effected by gravity (Slowing down drastically when near planets or stars) Its safe to assume that when the FSD activates, it is making your ship go faster then it should be able to within the gravity well, causing the ship to instantly heat up massively. I would recommend moving out of the SOI before engaging your jump drive, If the star (or planet for that matter) is Red on your radar it means y ou are within its SOI.
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Figured it was something like that. Did not know know about the red planet thing in the radar, thanks.
 

Wullail

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The FSD charges slower when near a gravitational body , but the heat build up is based on time , slower charge = more time taken = more heat build up.
 

bamber

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Equipment builds up heat

Fuel scooping scoops superheated hydrogen ejected from the sun and stores it within your ship = heat

If its a pain grab a heatsink and dump the heat
 

theEmohawk

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If you're scooping in SC, and then angling away from the star still in super-cruise you shouldn't build more heat. The heat will normally stay high until you get out of scooping range. If you spool up for a hyperspace jump before your fuel scoop has disengaged you'll get massive heat build up - that's the only thing I'm sure about from what you've described so far.

So, are you finishing scooping, turning away from the star and immediately engaging your FSD to jump to the next system? Or are you flying away from the star, waiting for the scoop to disengage, then engaging FSD?
 

stoicfury

stoicfury
theEmohawk said:
So, are you finishing scooping, turning away from the star and immediately engaging your FSD to jump to the next system? Or are you flying away from the star, waiting for the scoop to disengage, then engaging FSD?
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Yeah, I figured out that engaging FSD while too close causes the massive buildup. One can avoid it by getting out of the stars SOI.
 

andyraptor

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stoicfury said:
I'm in a Type 6, I read there was a bug with the heat but I thought it was fixed. Could it still have it I guess?
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nope it's not a bug..... some people were getting problems with heat build up topping out over 100 when jumping ... basically caused by running a low power Power Plant that was not very heat efficient


your problem is caused by not letting the ship cool enough before engaging hyper-drive (jumping)

simply move away from the Star after fuel scooping and watch the temps drop... when you get to about mid to low 40's ... engage hyperdrive.. if you have A class Powerplant, as you claim, you'll not go over 100

if you're in a super hurry... drop a heat sink to drop the temps quickly.... but it's not really ness. to go to such lengths unless you emergency stop by getting too close to the Star

I pilot the T6 every evening Mon - Fri, when away from home working, and I know this is the case

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cmdr lowest

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andyraptor said:
nope it's not a bug..... some people were getting problems with heat build up topping out over 100 when jumping ... basically caused by running a low power Power Plant that was not very heat efficient


your problem is caused by not letting the ship cool enough before engaging hyper-drive (jumping)

simply move away from the Star after fuel scooping and watch the temps drop... when you get to about mid to low 40's ... engage hyperdrive.. if you have A class Powerplant, as you claim, you'll not go over 100

if you're in a super hurry... drop a heat sink to drop the temps quickly.... but it's not really ness. to go to such lengths unless you emergency stop by getting too close to the Star

I pilot the T6 every evening Mon - Fri, when away from home working, and I know this is the case

:)
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This.

The T6 has a low heat threshold too. Even the stock one you buy overheats when you first engage FSD without applying any upgrades.

You must always fly away from the star first, cool down, then engage FSD.

I'm not a big fan of the Space Ford Transit... em, T6 (but don't tell Andy)
 
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