Patch Notes Update Server side update at 11am - 21/04/15

[Distance]

BBs have been updated as well, yesterday they were showing bounties of 1m, today i jumped on the list once my fines turned into bounties. the only way to know is if a dev provides some info or someone to take me out to see how the system works. anyone wants to claim a bounty for free?

I've not been on, I was going to go on this morning but the Thursday update and then the current server problems means I've not got round to it today.

I wouldn't say no to free money for killing you but I'm sure there are other players who would benefit from a free mil

I'll add you in game though as it's always good to know other pirates

 

[EdzUp]

Im still against the cap as basically its one of those things where the Military should get involved or make it a Community goal to clean up the galaxy, this would at least make it interesting for the Hunters who have stated that 1m bounties arent really worth going after as it would end up costing them money.

Personally as I have stated would remove the cap but introduce military weapons and ships to deal with the bounties that get 'to far' off the scale thus meaning that excessive pirates or killers would be hunted no matter where they went and in the end would be destroyed bringing balance to the game once more.

On the whole of it the current situation looks like a sticking plaster over the grand canyon, you wont deal with the problem with quick fixes unless you separate solo, group and open play only then will you bring balance. If players want to fly in a group where they have their own pocket galaxy thats their choice and should not impact on open play, open play should be just that open by allowing other modes to influence the galaxy all your doing is diluting the final game with people that arent really in it. I could fly around in solo play with a heavily armed ship and destabilise open play by blowing up loads of people just for kicks, my actions in a single player game shouldnt influence the multiplayer side of things nor should group play as you are choosing to play with friends.

 

[Distance]

Im still against the cap as basically its one of those things where the Military should get involved or make it a Community goal to clean up the galaxy, this would at least make it interesting for the Hunters who have stated that 1m bounties arent really worth going after as it would end up costing them money.

We still don't know if there are any changes in 1.3 that could affect the crime system so we'll have to wait and see. I too hope this is a temporary solution to the credit sellers myself.

 

[EdzUp]

I've not been on, I was going to go on this morning but the Thursday update and then the current server problems means I've not got round to it today.

I wouldn't say no to free money for killing you but I'm sure there are other players who would benefit from a free mil

I'll add you in game though as it's always good to know other pirates

I have noticed issues as well this morning not just in game but with this forum as well :/

Im not so much a pirate as more a freelancer I go where the money is

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I've not been on, I was going to go on this morning but the Thursday update and then the current server problems means I've not got round to it today.

I wouldn't say no to free money for killing you but I'm sure there are other players who would benefit from a free mil

I'll add you in game though as it's always good to know other pirates

I have noticed issues as well this morning not just in game but with this forum as well :/

Im not so much a pirate as more a freelancer I go where the money is

 

[Distance]

This thread is messed up for me as well. Every time I post a reply it hang but it's sent so I close it and the message is there. You're making the mistake of trying to send post again and it's creating the duplicates

 

[jabokai]

This thread is messed up for me as well. Every time I post a reply it hang but it's sent so I close it and the message is there. You're making the mistake of trying to send post again and it's creating the duplicates

It's making duplicates without trying to post again, for me anyway. Just leaving it to finish it's duplicated 3 or 4 for me this morning.

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This thread is messed up for me as well. Every time I post a reply it hang but it's sent so I close it and the message is there. You're making the mistake of trying to send post again and it's creating the duplicates

It's making duplicates without trying to post again, for me anyway. Just leaving it to finish it's duplicated 3 or 4 for me this morning.

 

[ciger]

lol at the ED support and why even bother to help?

There might be some confusion with the update - The 1 million CR cap for bounties is restricted to minor factions only. It appears you have accrued an enormous 14,123,435 fine with the Federation who are well within their right to do so. Unfortunately you'll have to deal with that one yourself! --- wasnt it the minor factions issuing the fines? what is the point of the update? to clear out the credit selling huge bounties? like they wont do it again...

The issue you raised with being fined multiple times might be something that is more about confusing notifications than actually being fined multiple times for the same items. You only have a 200CR fine on your account and that was for interdiction. ---here i pointed out that i got fined for the very same cargo multiple times, yet blah blah your fine of 200cr is for an interdiction.

might be a good idea to let the support guys know what recent changes have been made and to what purpose.

 

[Distance]

lol at the ED support and why even bother to help?

There might be some confusion with the update - The 1 million CR cap for bounties is restricted to minor factions only. It appears you have accrued an enormous 14,123,435 fine with the Federation who are well within their right to do so. Unfortunately you'll have to deal with that one yourself! --- wasnt it the minor factions issuing the fines? what is the point of the update? to clear out the credit selling huge bounties? like they wont do it again...

The issue you raised with being fined multiple times might be something that is more about confusing notifications than actually being fined multiple times for the same items. You only have a 200CR fine on your account and that was for interdiction. ---here i pointed out that i got fined for the very same cargo multiple times, yet blah blah your fine of 200cr is for an interdiction.

might be a good idea to let the support guys know what recent changes have been made and to what purpose.

So pretty much fly to sol or achenar, keep using scanner bug and sell bountys as normal?

 

[ciger]

So pretty much fly to sol or achenar, keep using scanner bug and sell bountys as normal?

looks like it, dont know if player scans work the same. i was using system authorities for that. a bit slower but you can still rack up huge fines and sell them off for cash. not good

 

[Distance]

looks like it, dont know if player scans work the same. i was using system authorities for that. a bit slower but you can still rack up huge fines and sell them off for cash. not good

Some testing to be done then. I don't believe they would have let that loop hole slip through though.

 

[FistfullOfSmurf]

So for example, if a player wants to flip a system they can sit in an RES and shoot endless system authority for weeks on end while only gaining a 1 mil bounty?

In terms of the background simulation that seems a little unfair towards independent systems. It removes much of the deterrent from grinding out kills to destabilize a system if the most they can leverage against you is a cost that is not even half your re-buy cost.

I think a possible solution would be that the most a CMDR could claim from you would be a million credits but the amount you as a player have to pay off to make the bounty go away increases like it always did. That way you don't end up unbalancing one of the key elements in the background sim.

Just a suggestion

Yes, very much this. Although, once the system DOES flip, any bounty issued by its previous owner should be rescinded.

To the victor go the spoils and what not, as opposed to the current system: to the victor goes an immense bounty that you get rid of by switching to a starter ship so your friend can blow you up and get tons of money (well, just 1m now).

It wouldn't solve the problem, but at least it would give people playing with the background sim a non-exploity/cheese way to deal with the bounties they incur inciting a revolution.

 

[excalibus]

@ciger, did you acrue the fines / bounties in just one jurisdiction or across multiple jurisdictions?

 

[Alex Brentnall]

Hey folks,
Not really a bug and too tiny to make a thread about but since I know Dev's often keep up with these posts I'll just mention it here in the hope it gets picked up:

Vequess has galaxy map info saying its the #1 Empire place for shields (Kraken systems) yet when outfitting all thats there is a very limited selection of shields (listed below) and a similar display of Shield cell banks. No utility Shield boosters at all.
2X C7 (D & E)
4X C3 (B, C, D & E)
3X C2 (C, D & E)

Whilst not a major issue it was a bit of an immersion disconnect for me when I arrived to find the lackluster inventory. I was expecting something similar to Founders world with virtually all shield types and sizes in stock. Ah well, searching for a High tech system now...

 

[ciger]

@ciger, did you acrue the fines / bounties in just one jurisdiction or across multiple jurisdictions?

in fed jurisdiction, but you can go over 1m within a single fed system.

 

[Distance]

Hey folks,
Not really a bug and too tiny to make a thread about but since I know Dev's often keep up with these posts I'll just mention it here in the hope it gets picked up:

Vequess has galaxy map info saying its the #1 Empire place for shields (Kraken systems) yet when outfitting all thats there is a very limited selection of shields (listed below) and a similar display of Shield cell banks. No utility Shield boosters at all.
2X C7 (D & E)
4X C3 (B, C, D & E)
3X C2 (C, D & E)

Whilst not a major issue it was a bit of an immersion disconnect for me when I arrived to find the lackluster inventory. I was expecting something similar to Founders world with virtually all shield types and sizes in stock. Ah well, searching for a High tech system now...

Make a thread in the bug forum, that's what it's there for. I don't think it's tiny

They have the QA guys go through it so it's more likely to get spotted there.

 

[Alex Brentnall]

Make a thread in the bug forum, that's what it's there for. I don't think it's tiny

They have the QA guys go through it so it's more likely to get spotted there.

Righto, will do

 

[ciger]

so had an arranged fight with a random guy, after kws the bounty showed a bit over 14m, after he killed me the guy was only awarded something above a mil. hoping this is a general fix which would take care of credit sellers. have my doubts about the general fix and thinking more along manual intervention, will need some additional testing.

 

[LARY STARKEEPER]

so had an arranged fight with a random guy, after kws the bounty showed a bit over 14m, after he killed me the guy was only awarded something above a mil. hoping this is a general fix which would take care of credit sellers. have my doubts about the general fix and thinking more along manual intervention, will need some additional testing.

Damn... Yes, they really need to fix it.

 

[baalic]

I always read about all this PVP stuff. I've only once been targeted by a player, and that guy when high tailing it when my buddy lit him up as well..... In my current home system, I think it seems up to 25 ships per day tops.....usually around 12-20 ships per day.... I wish I could find a player in a crappy little Cobra or Viper with some outrageous bounty in my system......but as it were, I've made almost all of my money playing in Open and bounty hunting NPC's..... given I'm only up to a half kitted Vulture...but literally all I do is bounty hunt NPC's so any change made to BH, could drastically change my scope of the game as I have just a swell time doing the same thing I do over and over again, hoping to someday afford a Python on nothing by bounty hunting.... IMO too many people cry about the PVP system, and I know obviously some people are abusing certain aspects of the game... but what if, if you were destroyed with a bounty, your fine is = to that of the bounty "or is it already that way?" or maybe its double, to pay the person who claimed the bounty.....if every death you had to pay double your bounty, no other changes would have to be made, and it would encourage people to not be pirates, but on the other hand, PVP should be a huge part of this game....and ED is supposed to be cut throat....I would welcome a PVP battle that I lost in with equal matched ships...if I see a fully decked 'Conda interdict me and a CMDR in front of his name, you can bet your ass im FSD out of that place...... If I don't make it, ill cuss and swear and good on them.... But honestly a lot of the changes seem to cater what others have coined the "Euro Space Trucker" crowd that plays this game....

I still love this game, even though I've had some crappy bugs that have had some serious setbacks, but each day, like also others have said, he feels more and more like im in a Beta.....just patching this and patching that and re-balancing this and re-balancing that......lets stop worrying about some of the things I don't consider broke and start adding more content as promised......

 

[Anopheles]

Well, I knew it was coming. However, it was clear to me that Bounty Sharing was In Game Fraud rather than Out Game Exploiting. It would be good if this was acknowledged and presented as an anti fraud measure, rather than as an exploit fix.


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Why not just stop player scanners from generating fines? Or would that be too hard? After all players are not the police.

Edit... That's sounds kind of sarcastic when I read it again. It's not meant to be. Thanks for the release.

This man should win a prize. That would stop bounty fraud immediately.