New Explorers Don't despair

[Vasious]

I just stumbled on an Unclaimed Earth-Like a mere 186 light years from Civilized Space.
And that was completely dumb luck, was just a way point to somewhere else.

Do don't think you have to go out 1000s of light years before you can find unclaimed systems of interest.

I suspect the pattern of our exit from Civilized space is light a spiders web with vast surveyed gaps to be filled by succeeding waves.

Of course I shall add it to the Earth like Thread once I have gotten back

 

[CMDR Starschulz]

Most people head in a straight line towards something like a nebula. just take the 3'rd star on the right...

 

[bsnaylor]

Simple tip for finding lots of 1st discovereds, fly out from occupied space in a line on fastest route for 3-400 LY then turn 90 degrees and go "sideways" on economical.
I have found hundreds doing that.
Then when you've found enough, leave another few hours to get back as you'll find a shedload more on the route back and find it irresistible to scan every one!

 

[Surly_Badger]

Go 1000ly in any direction, then switch to economical and head more or less the same direction. The odds you'll find anything discovered are remote. There's a path of discovered stuff to most of the nearby nebulas. But even if you head toward Sagittarius A* you're going to find lots of unexploreds.

 

[Viriathu]

Well... i started exploring just a few days ago, my first days was to grind enough money to get an asp, im more or less 900 LY from Sol, that should be around 400 from civilizied space?? anyway, i just went diagonal and down, for now...

The pace is slow as i scan every planet that is undiscovered, i have found like 20 planets good candidats for terra, some water worlds but so far no Earth like planet, and no black holes too...
I have made hundreds of scans already, but in credits maybe its not near even 10M.

I do have a question that is bothering me since i start exploring, take this example:

I find a unexplored system, and unexplored i mean no one ever entered there yet, lets say is close to civilizied space, i scan every planet in it, but i keep going, now, as i go further and further, another player find that system, enter it and also scan the planets, but not like me, he will return to a station and deliver the info off that system before i do.

This is the question, does he get "first explored by" in the system, by deliver the info first, even if i was the first one to scan and explore the system? or it will be allways me no matter who delivers the info first?

 

[Varrag]

I find a unexplored system, and unexplored i mean no one ever entered there yet, lets say is close to civilizied space, i scan every planet in it, but i keep going, now, as i go further and further, another player find that system, enter it and also scan the planets, but not like me, he will return to a station and deliver the info off that system before i do.

This is the question, does he get "first explored by" in the system, by deliver the info first, even if i was the first one to scan and explore the system? or it will be allways me no matter who delivers the info first?

First to deliver.

 

[Fen Harel]

This is the question, does he get "first explored by" in the system, by deliver the info first, even if i was the first one to scan and explore the system? or it will be allways me no matter who delivers the info first?

Indeed, what matters is who publishes first. Just like real science.

It could be worse. In the old days (what, back in March?) the borders lands outside the colonized bubble were crawling with random NPCs. Back then it was publish or perish.

 

[Vasious]

Simple tip for finding lots of 1st discovereds, fly out from occupied space in a line on fastest route for 3-400 LY then turn 90 degrees and go "sideways" on economical.
I have found hundreds doing that.
Then when you've found enough, leave another few hours to get back as you'll find a shedload more on the route back and find it irresistible to scan every one!

Go 1000ly in any direction, then switch to economical and head more or less the same direction. The odds you'll find anything discovered are remote. There's a path of discovered stuff to most of the nearby nebulas. But even if you head toward Sagittarius A* you're going to find lots of unexploreds.

Well I was trying to say, even a hundred light years will probably do, no need to spend hours getting out there

 

[kafolarbear]

My first undiscovered system had an earthlike with water based life. That was maybe 250 ly max from Lave cluster.

-CMDR Kbear

 

[Zeeman]

Go 1000ly in any direction, then switch to economical and head more or less the same direction. The odds you'll find anything discovered are remote. There's a path of discovered stuff to most of the nearby nebulas. But even if you head toward Sagittarius A* you're going to find lots of unexploreds.

I think I had only 6 explored systems on my way to Sag A (taking out the various Nebula). I wouldn't be surprised is all systems within about 10Ly of sag A were unexplored...

I actually found an unexplored system inside civilised space a few weeks ago (just before starting off to Sag A). I bet there are still unexplored systems in there, somewhere...

Z...

 

[Gold Member]

I just stumbled on an Unclaimed Earth-Like a mere 186 light years from Civilized Space.
And that was completely dumb luck, was just a way point to somewhere else.

Do don't think you have to go out 1000s of light years before you can find unclaimed systems of interest.

I suspect the pattern of our exit from Civilized space is light a spiders web with vast surveyed gaps to be filled by succeeding waves.

Of course I shall add it to the Earth like Thread once I have gotten back

I posted a similar observation last week. After being out for only a week I discovered dozens of systems, quite a few earth-likes, several terraformables, and a whole bunch with ammonia/water/carbon life. And the farthest I went out was 2000LY. On the way back I was still finding 'undiscovered' systems only a few jumps outside Imperial space. So yeah, despite all the posts about exploring, the near backyard still has a lot of places to get your name engraved.

The issue is that, like another comment above, most explorers go all out and want to head to Sag-A or a nebula or something and ignore the hundreds of light years in each direction above and below the galactic plane that have stars close enough even a 20LY jumper could easily fly between them and pin all kinds of discoveries. Remember these good times when it's easy to get credit for a system fairly close to habitated space.

 

[Surly_Badger]

Another thing that works pretty well: decide where you are going, then go into "realistic" view, zoom out a bit, and start scrolling around. Look for things that look interesting. Those are fun places to go. I was doing that near where I am right now and found an S-Star and a small cluster of about 20 black holes.

There are often interesting things closer to the upper/lower edges of the galactic plane. The AA-A districts, for example. If you scroll around and notice something really interesting and bright from a distance, it's probably a giant. Like take a look at this one:
LYSOOF AA-A H1
I spotted this blue light from 500ly away!!!!

If you pan around, look for black dots (black holes) or grey dots (neutron stars) or hugemongous things.

I just found an S Star; I hear tell they are ultra rare. Woot!

One observation: the distance doesn't matter. If you're going to do an exploration trip and cover 10,000ly it can be in a straight line, or it can look like a plate of spaghetti. It doesn't matter - you've covered the same amount of distance and you've seen the same number of stars! 3000 jumps is 3000 jumps, and it's the explore time and jump setups that you notice, not the number of light years.

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I wouldn't be surprised is all systems within about 10Ly of sag A were unexplored...

I explored a few. But the map slow-down probably makes most explorers go "GAH!! I AM OUTTA HERE!" I jumped around a few places at random, near Sag A*. Mostly hoping to bump into another CMDR and tell them to drop cargo.

 

[Dan Dority]

After a couple hundred systems I finally found my first earth-like. Then two jumps later, found my second! These are far from colonised space mind you (Although not that far out, within 10,000ly). I was about the give up on finding one and just continue on my merry way to my new destination (after having reached my first) and then fly briskly home. It's anecdotal from such a small personal experience but I think they key is just knowing where to look. Check out the thread of discovered Earth-likes to get an idea of where they like to hide.

Oh, and CMDR Crighton. I checked out that system we were talking about. Nothing there as suspected. I even bought the book that was being referenced just to check what the old lady had to say (havn't read the book yet, just the section in question) and I get the feeling she could have been talking about anywhere, and definately not limited to just our galactic arm like I initially deduced. I now believe The guy who found the reference and originally started the thread had a better idea than I did, I'm just not sure which direction is correct.

 

[Caleuche]

I did a shake down cruise in a T-6 I just kitted for exploration. Went up to 17 Draconis and set out in an arbitrary direction not expecting much. In a few hours I found 20 first discovery systems within 175ly of 17 Draconis. Surfaced scanned most of them, collected around 900k, and still made it back in time for happy hour at the pilots club at Paradiso Outpost.

BTW, the T6 makes an excellent explorer, imo. Mine has a 28.8 jump range. With a 5C fuel scoop I had no heat issues.

 

[SCADVID]

Simple tip for finding lots of 1st discovereds, fly out from occupied space in a line on fastest route for 3-400 LY then turn 90 degrees and go "sideways" on economical.
I have found hundreds doing that.
Then when you've found enough, leave another few hours to get back as you'll find a shedload more on the route back and find it irresistible to scan every one!

Got over 22 first discoveries (including an Earth planet) not even 200 ly away from Sol, but you have to search wisely, not like birds or tourists do.

 

[hoppingdeth]

Don't forget to go high or low on the z axis too!

 

[EddyRockSteady]

Toddling back from Sag-A I discovered my first one - system Nebula yesterday, completely untouched to date. Very surreal as it turned everything green. Now on my way to a cluster of Wolf-Rayets. At best there is probably not even 0.02 percent already discovered so no explorer need to despair at all - we will NEVER run out of things to see and discover.

 

[gooddoc]

Im on my trip to the core & if i find that 2 or 3 consecutive systems entered have already been tagged then i randomly pick a direction & move 200-300 LYs in that direction. That then reduces going into pre-discovered systems.
Though i do study the galaxy map for systems of interest & i'm not visiting any nebula's on this trip yet. I tend to plot my way points on Neutron Stars/Black Holes.
My last trip i got tagged with quite a few, though this trip most have been claimed.
Found 3 Earthlikes so far 2 not claimed, which is an improvement on only 1 last trip out.

But it's not about the glory, it's about the enjoyment of being alone, in DEEP space, no one near you, the sounds of only the engines & the horn, not seeing anyone for weeks....what if something goes WRONG?, is that a crack in my canopy? hows my oxygen? have i got enough food?.....IM ALL ALONE OUT HERE!!!.......IM GOING MAD, ABSOLUTELY MAD!!!!....GOTTA GET OUTTA THIS SHIP NOW!!!!....WHY WONT 1.3 LET ME LEAVE MY SHIP???....ARRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!......................................

 

[Viriathu]

One observation: the distance doesn't matter. If you're going to do an exploration trip and cover 10,000ly it can be in a straight line, or it can look like a plate of spaghetti. It doesn't matter - you've covered the same amount of distance and you've seen the same number of stars! 3000 jumps is 3000 jumps, and it's the explore time and jump setups that you notice, not the number of light years.

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I explored a few. But the map slow-down probably makes most explorers go "GAH!! I AM OUTTA HERE!" I jumped around a few places at random, near Sag A*. Mostly hoping to bump into another CMDR and tell them to drop cargo.

First i decided that my goal as explorer would be to reach the edge of the Galaxy from the longest route, or 3000 systems, (being Sol the reference), after awhile and seeing that there are so many nice systems around that can cover the 3000 system objective i decided no to go to the edge.

The thing is, we usually wen see maps, we see them 2D, our eyes are used to look at 2D maps... so wen looking at a 3D map, we often forget the huge possibilities above and below (again being Sol as reference)

 

[Vasious]

Plus changing z level helps avoid the Band of Unscoopables