Getting a lacon type 9, what sacrifices should be made?

SoulTechnology

SoulTechnology
so thinking of getting a type 9 here soon. and i've pre-planned 2 loadouts with there own similarities and differences (for similar prices) as was wondering (form the type 9 pilots with experience) which layout would be worth the 100mil i'm saving up?

the differenced are:
1 has thinner shields, 2 has MUCH MUCH stronger shields
1 has 480 cargo space, 2 has 380
2 has an extra 1-2 Ly jump range
if hardpoints DO need to be deployed, both have similar defencive capabilities (not counting the drastic shield difference) but 1 doesn't use any ammo and 2 would need to pay for ammo after any fight (however cheap ammo).

so all that really is different is an extreme shielding difference over 100 tonnes of cargo? so how important is 100 tonnes over a MASSIVE shield difference? i ask cuz this difference could mean 5mil in insurance and another couple mil or so in changing kits if i'm unhappy.
 

vjek

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My advice? Don't buy it.

I too hated my T9, and would stay with a Python. Not only does it let you stick with medium pads, which is awesome for binary planet trading, the T9 handles so badly, I consider it bugged.

The T9 has no place in the game, imho.
 

Rubellen

Rubellen
I don't agree. Flown a Python for most of my time, loved it, switched to La9 and made it a 500T hauler... My god how fast can you make money? After a few days bought myself a fully upgraded Vulture - kills NPC Annies in a matter of 20 to 30 secs - and now from almost broke to +50 mil in lets say 2 weeks ... Find yourself a decent trading spot and get rich fast. And yes, it flies like a brick but you will get used to it. And getting in the Vulture is sooo much fun afterwards :p
 

SoulTechnology

SoulTechnology
i know the T9 is a brick but i'm not buying it to fight anacondas here (got a vulture for that) i don't plan on using it for any form of combat. the only reason i asked is i was wondering form EXPERIENCED T9 PILOTS who actually have waited the differences.... is 100 tonnes of cargo more important then MASSIVELY more powerful shields??? as in, NOT COMBAT, but more so the odd (or often) encounter with pirates?... as i have little experience with transports and the risk form pirates, but can 100 tonnes make back my insurance form a run? or should i go for shields and avoid ever having to pay insurance (i almost forgot... AND the cargo)

Rubellen said:
and now from almost broke to +50 mil in lets say 2 weeks
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?!... my future in a combat zone makes anywhere from 500k to a mil in under an hour (and i only spend about 6 mil on the thing).. i just don't feel like grinding combat zones much so i was gonna go exploring for a couple weeks and then move onto the T9 after some more combat zones and exploration cash... so dont tell me that i'm never gonna make more money spending a day grinding in the T9 then i am doing a 'bit' more interesting grind in a vulture?

so to sim it up i guess thats 2 questions i have.
- if T9, then will 100 tonnes of cargo pay off the extra 5mil insurance costs of dying with crappy shields (or should i just sacrifice 100 tonnes of cargo for epic shields)
- or does the T9 only give cash over GREAT amounts of time, so grinding in a vulture making 1mil an hour more worth it?
 
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Wizz

Wizz
SoulTechnology said:
i know the T9 is a brick but i'm not buying it to fight anacondas here (got a vulture for that) i don't plan on using it for any form of combat. the only reason i asked is i was wondering form EXPERIENCED T9 PILOTS who actually have waited the differences.... is 100 tonnes of cargo more important then MASSIVELY more powerful shields??? as in, NOT COMBAT, but more so the odd (or often) encounter with pirates?... as i have little experience with transports and the risk form pirates, but can 100 tonnes make back my insurance form a run? or should i go for shields and avoid ever having to pay insurance (i almost forgot... AND the cargo)
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If you say you're not going to use it for combat (but then again, who would?), why would you need strong shields?
Just don't fly into the mailslot at full speed and you'll be ok with small shields. Just remember to always fly with 4 pips to system.
 

Pilot Mark

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I've not flown a T9, because I opted for the Anaconda instead - which makes a much better trader. Ok, cargo space is lower but it flies faster and has greater jump range meaning your profit per hour will be greater. Plus, it is capable of putting up a fight. I have only been interdicted once flying the 'Conda, I imagine this would be higher with the T9.
 

Scal

Scal
I love my T9 but she is seriously slow. That is, slow to turn in SC, slow to approach the station upon exiting SC, painfully slow to negotiate the mail slot, painfully tiny jump range.

You really want to carry as much cargo as you can. Carrying 380t of cargo as slowly as the T9 flies... You would be MUCH better off in a Python.
 
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SoulTechnology

SoulTechnology
Troa Barton said:
Go big or go home.
At minimum this
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=60Y,mpX0_g0_g0_g0_g,2-7_Ba9Y8SA06u9s,0DI0Bk0AA7Sk07207205U05U03w
you can put weapons on it if you really must but turrets are awful and you won't need them. The T9 doesn't get interdicted as often as you would think.
This is how I flew my T9:
http://www.edshipyard.com/#/L=60Y,,2-3IBa9Y8SA06u9s,0DI0Bk0AA08c07207205U05U03w
wouldnt do that at first though
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Scal said:
I love my T9 but she is seriously slow. That is, slow to turn in SC, slow to approach the station upon exiting SC, painfully slow to negotiate the mail slot, painfully tiny jump range.

You really want to carry as much cargo as you can. Carrying 380t of cargo as slowly as the T9 flies... You would be MUCH better off in a Python.
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thank both fo you for actually giving me useful answers.... NOW the question remains... will a T9 setup with around 480 - 532 tonnes of cargo pay off better per hour then a vulture that makes around 1 mil an hour?
 

Scal

Scal
SoulTechnology said:
thank both fo you for actually giving me useful answers.... NOW the question remains... will a T9 setup with around 480 - 532 tonnes of cargo pay off better per hour then a vulture that makes around 1 mil an hour?
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Undoubtedly, yes. I carry 500t in my T9, even an average route pays 500,000 credits per stop. That is a million profit per return journey :)

T9 is like a printing press for credits.
 

Troa Barton

Troa Barton
SoulTechnology said:
thank both fo you for actually giving me useful answers.... NOW the question remains... will a T9 setup with around 480 - 532 tonnes of cargo pay off better per hour then a vulture that makes around 1 mil an hour?
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Yes a lot more. You can make a million in 10 minutes with a T9
 

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
Fly it with 500 tons as a means to get to Conda faster. Once you have 180 million, drop it for the Conda. On the plus side it can get you from the 100 million to buy it to those 180 million in two days. I know mine did that.
 

Troa Barton

Troa Barton
Cmdr. Numa said:
Fly it with 500 tons as a means to get to Conda faster. Once you have 180 million, drop it for the Conda. On the plus side it can get you from the 100 million to buy it to those 180 million in two days. I know mine did that.
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This is also sound advice, the conda has a much further jump range and can make the trip in less time. I would also reccomend getting it as soon as you are able.
 

FuzzySpider

FuzzySpider
I'm running a type 9 with 496 cargo (I've got a docking computer). At the moment I'm running a two jump, very safe trade route that takes me around 13 minutes to complete in both directions.

I'm making 763,000 one way and around 445,000 the other. Get this ship, you'll be able to afford any other ship you like alongside it before you know it.
 

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
FuzzySpider said:
I'm running a type 9 with 496 cargo (I've got a docking computer). At the moment I'm running a two jump, very safe trade route that takes me around 13 minutes to complete in both directions.

I'm making 763,000 one way and around 445,000 the other. Get this ship, you'll be able to afford any other ship you like alongside it before you know it.
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Gz on that route, hope it holds up. Mine is similar, but with 4 jumps.
 
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Eleonore Nali

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After flying my T9 for quite a while, I settled on 488 cargo (A5 shields, A3 shield cell bank, docking computer).
That's only 2% less cargo than the 500 ton variant at vastly increased defensive and comfort capabilities.

Going all the way down to 380 cargo seems excessive though. That build feels like it wants to be a trading anaconda but fails.
 

PeterF

PeterF
T9s are great cash cows - learn to fly them forget the DC, shields NOT needed !

SoulTechnology said:
so thinking of getting a type 9 here soon. and i've pre-planned 2 loadouts with there own similarities and differences (for similar prices) as was wondering (form the type 9 pilots with experience) which layout would be worth the 100mil i'm saving up?

the differenced are:
1 has thinner shields, 2 has MUCH MUCH stronger shields
1 has 480 cargo space, 2 has 380
2 has an extra 1-2 Ly jump range
if hardpoints DO need to be deployed, both have similar defencive capabilities (not counting the drastic shield difference) but 1 doesn't use any ammo and 2 would need to pay for ammo after any fight (however cheap ammo).

so all that really is different is an extreme shielding difference over 100 tonnes of cargo? so how important is 100 tonnes over a MASSIVE shield difference? i ask cuz this difference could mean 5mil in insurance and another couple mil or so in changing kits if i'm unhappy.
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Have been flying one for ages, makes a mint - no shields and never crashed, indicted, I can still run...somehow....fully loaded.... Gotta love your overweight aunty T9 :)
 
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