Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread [See new thread]

[Dave1235]

But remember - Open mode is full of warm loving people who just want to hug you all the time
How could you be so mean and not give that player a cuddle, he (or she) was just lonely and wanted to be with you

lol

That would have been a very short, hot cuddle with a black widow, those C3's make stuff hot real quick , I also know Jack about psychology (he is a PHD), experience would suggest from the comms that the aggressor may well be suffering from "infant lack of cuddle from mummy syndrome".

I am not sure this can be reversed by stranger cuddles in the later stages but it is a recognised symptom.

I will get this peer reviewed (if I go to the pub tomorrow) and publish my white paper on my website Iknowjackeaboutpsychology.com by 10 pm .

PS

CMDR Thrust from Bradford just PM's me, he said the study is very interesting although he is still on page 11,648, nearly half way, he hopes to let me know in about 7 minutes on the rest .

 

[YoBuck]

But remember - Open mode is full of warm loving people who just want to hug you all the time
How could you be so mean and not give that player a cuddle, he (or she) was just lonely and wanted to be with you

lol

Jesus, it's posts like this and a couple below it that really stop me playing in mobius. Passive aggressive bunch at best. It's only use to me is connection issues but thankfully that's not against the group rules.
I really like the idea of mobius and have it in my groups but imho the mobius forum guys are a bit sneaky and it leaves a sour taste.

 

[Jockey79]

Jesus, it's posts like this and a couple below it that really stop me playing in mobius. Passive aggressive bunch at best. It's only use to me is connection issues but thankfully that's not against the group rules.
I really like the idea of mobius and have it in my groups but imho the mobius forum guys are a bit sneaky and it leaves a sour taste.

If a couple of people having a laugh and poking fun at the expense of someone who was clearly in the mood to ruin someone elses gameplay - bothers you so much.
Sorry, but that is more to do with you than any group.

You have Solo, you have other private groups (heck, make your own with your own rules - I'd be happy to link it in my sig for you and try it myself) and you have Open.
You also don't have to like me or anyone else in Mobius to enjoy it and make use of it, I'll always help Mobius players out, should they ask - even if they don't like my sense of humour

 

[Dave1235]

Jesus, it's posts like this and a couple below it that really stop me playing in mobius. Passive aggressive bunch at best. It's only use to me is connection issues but thankfully that's not against the group rules.
I really like the idea of mobius and have it in my groups but imho the mobius forum guys are a bit sneaky and it leaves a sour taste.

The Mobius group has 7400 members now I believe, that must be a big brush you are using to tar them all on the basis of a few posts.

Edit > 7600

 

[Jpotter]

I am glad you had your wits about you and survived, a decent vulture against a cobra is not a fair fight, even A rated, unless you are a really good pilot.

Take a look at the Mobius group, its PVE with a little PVP if you want (with consent) https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=38362

7600 other players that like interaction, some like a bit of PVP which is allowed in combat zones (but you can't switch like happened to you tonight).

I think your experience proves yet again that FD were correct from day one to include the ability to change modes.

Thanks for the suggestion! I'll check it out.

Yea, I haven't formed a solid opinion yet on Open vs. Solo modes. I hadn't had much issues with PvP to date, but as stated, Solo was a great option for this issue.

 

[Walt Kerman]

I've honestly been wondering how many people actually play in Mobius out of that 7600.

 

[W0OCQCK]

lol I'm not attacking anyone. I think these changes will do more to hurt pve players than solve any of the problems in open.

But of course it will. I being primarily a group, solo player can say this, “I don’t feel like these changes jeopardize
My solo and group play. Even in the least.

Ok listen, I know the serious PVP players, greifers, and gankers big and small just can’t get a grasp of this situation. I seriously think there self-limiting beliefs, as well as a lot of group think at work here but, "just imagine this".

Imagine a galaxy full of procedural generate planets. There are 400 billion stars, imagine just how many more planets. All of these planets are approachable and land able, with the ability of exploring the entire planet from all 4 corners. No telling what you may find there, friendly, unfriendly, or certain death. Imagine being able to settle a planet, make it your home, build a base.

Imagine in the far reaches of the unexplored parts of the galaxy, running into races that have the potential to crush your ship like a bug, or you can befriend and you to use there assets crush other ships of your adversary’s like bugs.

Imagine civilized space being invaded by a never ending legion of highly advanced ships where humans known space is seriously in jeopardy of being driven from existence. The only possible defense is for everyone, I actually mean “EVERYONE” in all modes to fight it out to the death for survival. If we survive we'll have to rebuild to some extent, if we loose, everyone gets reset to sidewinders and 1000 bucks. A chance to start over.

Look I get your all stuck in the past. Large player based organizations, having only one mode, which everyone is forced into, is really pretty backward thinking. I know your pretty stuck here, and focused on just how you feel it’s just gotta be.

Yea bang, bang, shoot-em up , and a rich target environment, may be all that is important to you. But it isn’t for me.

Oh yea, and by the way, “Distance”. How would you suggest handling the blockade problem? How do you suggest FD change the game to ensure blockades work? Isn’t that what you asked “Sandro” When you got a shot to ask? How to do it in an easy way, without a bunch or nonsensical or unrealistic npc programming? I seem to remember DB stating very early on that they would never be completely successful for a multitude of reasons, even if we all were in just one mode. Please try to keep it pithy.

Combine all the modes into one perhaps?

Mode switching a problem? Get over it.

Point being FD may have much better things in store than simple pew pew. Just wait and see.

 

[W0OCQCK]

I've honestly been wondering how many people actually play in Mobius out of that 7600.

What difference does it make. Please stop drinking the cool aid my friend. LOL Have a little rep.

 

[W0OCQCK]

Jesus, it's posts like this and a couple below it that really stop me playing in mobius. Passive aggressive bunch at best. It's only use to me is connection issues but thankfully that's not against the group rules.
I really like the idea of mobius and have it in my groups but imho the mobius forum guys are a bit sneaky and it leaves a sour taste.

How so. Incidentally I don't just play in "Mobius". Most of us don't just play in one mode.

 

[snotface]

The Mobius group has 7400 members now I believe, that must be a big brush you are using to tar them all on the basis of a few posts.

Edit > 7600

I've honestly been wondering how many people actually play in Mobius out of that 7600.

How so. Incidentally I don't just play in "Mobius". Most of us don't.

I do play in Mobius and my own group. I do play in Open but the appeal isn't there any more. Why does Mobius have over 7600 members, is it because so many people want a community which play the game the same way they do.

Oh and if you are a member you are able to count how many are online at any point. It may take some time but you can count them all.

 

[Walt Kerman]

What difference does it make. Please stop drinking the cool aid my friend. LOL Have a little rep.

???

Um... Sorry, I was just curious. I've got some people in the Mercs who have Mobius in their list but don't play in it.

Dont really know where the cool aid comment came from.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

IF FD could go back in time... I wonder if FD would do anything different...... or if there is anything they regret. (Thankfully for me) the groups are here to stay as is mode switching it seems, but they have caused certain frisson on the forums..... I wonder if secretly they believe it was a mistake that they have to live with, or if it is working as hoped.

I think for me FD have done a cracking job, but with time and money at their fingers... I wonder what (if anything) FD would do differently design or marketingwise.

I also wonder if DB rues the day he promised PvP would be rare and meaningful and that ED would largely be a co-op game.... or whether he still feels that way and that it just needs balancing still OR of course maybe this IS working as imagined.

 

[SteveLaw]

IF FD could go back in time... I wonder if FD would do anything different...... or if there is anything they regret. (Thankfully for me) the groups are here to stay as is mode switching it seems, but they have caused certain frisson on the forums..... I wonder if secretly they believe it was a mistake that they have to live with, or if it is working as hoped.

I think for me FD have done a cracking job, but with time and money at their fingers... I wonder what (if anything) FD would do differently design or marketingwise.

I also wonder if DB rues the day he promised PvP would be rare and meaningful and that ED would largely be a co-op game.... or whether he still feels that way and that it just needs balancing still OR of course maybe this IS working as imagined.

I wonder if Sandro is ready to comment yet? He's had a month of this and I dare say nothing new has been said for most of that time.

I can't give you my considered opinions just yet because, well, I need a little more time to consider them!

But this is clearly an interesting debate, on both sides of the fence, so we will revisit it at a later date.

 

[Major Plonker]

IF FD could go back in time... I wonder if FD would do anything different...... or if there is anything they regret. (Thankfully for me) the groups are here to stay as is mode switching it seems, but they have caused certain frisson on the forums..... I wonder if secretly they believe it was a mistake that they have to live with, or if it is working as hoped.

I think for me FD have done a cracking job, but with time and money at their fingers... I wonder what (if anything) FD would do differently design or marketingwise.

I also wonder if DB rues the day he promised PvP would be rare and meaningful and that ED would largely be a co-op game.... or whether he still feels that way and that it just needs balancing still OR of course maybe this IS working as imagined.

My guess is it's working as hoped, it opens the game to a wider market. I don't imagine the vast majority of players give a flying fig what mode(s) others choose to play in. Like on most forums though, the whiners tend to make the most noise.

 

[Jockey79]

My guess is it's working as hoped, it opens the game to a wider market. I don't imagine the vast majority of players give a flying fig what mode(s) others choose to play in. Like on most forums though, the whiners tend to make the most noise.

If you jump around the threads, you soon learn who the people are that just whine for the sake of whining.
They do serve a purpose though - these forums would be dead without them

 

[Roybe]

IF FD could go back in time... I wonder if FD would do anything different...... or if there is anything they regret. (Thankfully for me) the groups are here to stay as is mode switching it seems, but they have caused certain frisson on the forums..... I wonder if secretly they believe it was a mistake that they have to live with, or if it is working as hoped.

I think for me FD have done a cracking job, but with time and money at their fingers... I wonder what (if anything) FD would do differently design or marketingwise.

I also wonder if DB rues the day he promised PvP would be rare and meaningful and that ED would largely be a co-op game.... or whether he still feels that way and that it just needs balancing still OR of course maybe this IS working as imagined.

E: D is largely a co op game. Everyone's action does have an influence on the galaxy and working together completes goals. PvP is PvP, as long as there is friendly fire, there will be attery. If you find this bothersome, play in Private. I think, at this point, we are seeing what the game is meant to be. Whether people agree that it is what was advertised is up to each person.

 

[alowe56]

Thanks to all for the info. That clears up a few things. I have been watching the Facebook group and more than a few people have mentioned being blown up for no apparent reason. I guess I'll go solo until I get things figured out a little better.

Thanks again.

 

[NIGHTEATER]

Solo and open play issues Solo and open play issues

Hi, yup all new here and about to ask a whole bunch of dumb questions, well, one specifically really .... I have a friend who joined the game, and try as we might we cannot seem to find each other in game, we are both at the same port, we can add each other to friends, even voice chat using the in game voice chat.
Initially they appeared as "solo" in contacts, when they had logged in as open play, after much cursing and several relogs, another player suggested they make a jump and dock somewhere, relog and try again, this we did and now they dont appear as being "solo" but we still cannot see each other's ships, I even managed to add them to a wing ... but still they do not appear on the radar not physically.

Anyone know how we can fix this issue please ?

 

[the100thmonkey]

Sounds like a firewall issue.

Check the ports required for multiplayer to work, and ensure your router is set to forward ports automatically. If it doesn't work, try forwarding the ports manually.

Both of you should do this.

 

[Askiates]

Thanks to all for the info. That clears up a few things. I have been watching the Facebook group and more than a few people have mentioned being blown up for no apparent reason. I guess I'll go solo until I get things figured out a little better.

Thanks again.

Well I've been playing on Open Play for about a month so far, and have seen the grand total of one real player, so I wouldnt worry too much.

By all means play solo whilst you get use to everything, but I've spent 3 weeks trading and one week out in deep space exploring, and Lave is the only place I've actually noticed a real player appear on my radar