UNKNOWN ARTEFACT: Sound Engineers, apply here!

sohara

sohara
saman said:
I've updated my earlier post (#36) with four more recordings. You can find the post here. Kaunan A 1 sounds interesting, as it broke the usual pattern twice - however, Kaunan A 3 didn't.
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Excellent - thanks so much for your efforts.

I would like to request that those with UA's take a bit of time to make as many recordings as you can - there's a pattern emerging, and I want to validate my findings. It seems that each time you eject a UA, it doesn't start singing immediately... only when you target it to start 'listening'
 

Phyl

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mkten said:
Excellent - thanks so much for your efforts.

I would like to request that those with UA's take a bit of time to make as many recordings as you can - there's a pattern emerging, and I want to validate my findings. It seems that each time you eject a UA, it doesn't start singing immediately... only when you target it to start 'listening'
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I believe this is true. In another thread one of the owners of a UA said that the sequence starts from the beginning each time it is targetted and comes into audible distance.

I've been hunting around a bit today hoping I might come across one - no luck though. I have a feeling that either the locations they are available in might move about, or that they are only available in very short windows.
 

sohara

sohara
Phyl said:
I believe this is true. In another thread one of the owners of a UA said that the sequence starts from the beginning each time it is targetted and comes into audible distance.

I've been hunting around a bit today hoping I might come across one - no luck though. I have a feeling that either the locations they are available in might move about, or that they are only available in very short windows.
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This is an important fact to verify - it means that every 'start' to the song is in fact the start of the message itself. That adds more weight to the theory that the beginning couple of tones are header content, providing information about the subsequent message.

The only problem this does leave us with is that each song is finite; the UA degrades before we can complete each message. This would suggest we need to find a way to stabilise the UA, or find a way to listen to it without ejecting it in to space.

All very exciting :)
 
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Gédéon_Lecanard

Gédéon_Lecanard
mkten said:
This thread isn't for you then, Chief. Move along!
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Don't be harsh, we're just trying to help. Here's the thing.

Scientist perspective on an unknown artefact.
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It's worth noting that this picture was taken from a subject with a normal scientist hypertrophied brain. Because of the lack of space left within the skull, the eyes are slightly pushed out of their sockets, causing a small visual distorsion. Nothing problematic usually.

Regular folk perspective on a scientist perspective on a unknown artefact.
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Normal sized brain. Accurate vision.

The bright side being: when they'll hatch their siblings into your skull, "egghead" will become even more accurate for you :p
 
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Demiga

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I still think if 2 or 3 people can get together to listen to multiple UAs should be investigated. And on the same subject, People say that not every "song" is the same. What if there are 2 or 3 versions of the same message? They could either be lined out Messages 1, 2, 3 ...making it so that you need to Cut n Paste them together to find a pattern.

Or, Information could be "corrupted" for parts of one message and "non-corrupted" in other parts of the song. Then it could be similar for another UA, except its corrupted spots and non-corrupted spots are different. Essentially making it so that you need to have 2 or 3 UA's to have all of the necessary data. Cut n Paste the Non Corrupted portions of UA 1 onto the Corrupted portions of the audio from UA2.

Because, unless if its RNG (which everyone here is assuming its NOT) then there has to be a pattern. And that pattern should not vary unless there is more to the pattern than we think
 
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Phyl

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mkten said:
The only problem this does leave us with is that each song is finite; the UA degrades before we can complete each message. This would suggest we need to find a way to stabilise the UA, or find a way to listen to it without ejecting it in to space.
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My feeling is that this is the next part of the puzzle. I think they degrade so quickly that we cannot get the whole signal, and I think when we do there will be a clue to decrypting them in the parts we can't get at right now. I'm very keen to get get my hands on one to experiment, but that is a lot easier said than done!
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Demiga said:
People say that not every "song" is the same. What if there are 2 or 3 versions of the same message?
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So far I'm aware of about 8 recordings, and they are all quite different - this includes multiple messages taken consecutively in the same systems. There are some common patterns, but that is all we can say at the moment.

It is possible that the messages ARE all the same, but that they are encrypted with different keys. If that is the case, I expect the key will be found in the part of the message we cannot access until they are stabilised - however that is pure speculation... ;)
 
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Phyl

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Azrael said:
Just a thought.
Did any one tried to eject the UA inside a station? Could make the UA not degrade.
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A lot of people have suggested that, but I think the risk of losing it is too high for anyone to try it as there are only a very small number left. For our purposes this ambient noise in a station would make it very difficult to analyse the sound, so I hope that is not the solution!
 

RebellGhost

RebellGhost
Hey, I don't know if anybody already tried this, because i haven't had the time to read the whole thread.
Since the sound the object makes reminds me somewhat of the probe in Star Trek IV, I wanted to go ahead and try to find out how it sounds underwater. As I could'nt even find a program to do this, much less a tutorial, I thought that one of you might pick up the idea? Maybe it makes more sense that way! (Idea stolen from Harry Potter IV and Star Trek IV)

EDIT: (One might call this the Spock Solution)
 
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Ayo

Ayo
Bloomoo said:
My first quick pass with saman's new recordings, before I disappear off to bed are, are
HeBo3 010010 101100 010100 010011 101001 1001010 001010 0110110 0110101 10110
HeBo5 00110 001100 1001001 0110111 001001 0011
HeBo5 00101 001001 010101 110101 101100 011001 0110110 1101100 1001101 0110
HeBo6 00101 001011 0110010 1001011 0100110 1001100 0101001 0010010 001001 1001

But the more I look at the numbers, I'm coming to the conclusion they're not binary encoded numbers.
Something doesn't look right with the distribution of 1s and 0s to me, but that's just my gut feeling at the moment.
I think they may just be random until some event is triggered.
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Yeah, the distribution to me suggests this is deliberately random and meaningless. The only part that isn't random is the 'whale clarinets', if there is a message to decode, it is there IMO.
 

Archvillain

Archvillain
Ayo said:
Yeah, the distribution to me suggests this is deliberately random and meaningless. The only part that isn't random is the 'whale clarinets', if there is a message to decode, it is there IMO.
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Structure is the opposite of random. There is clear structure here: A tone plays only once or twice, then the other tone plays only once or twice. These may be punctuated every 5-7 tones.
For a real-world example of this structure being used to transmit data, look at an ITF barcode.

(If you were to transcribe actual ITF into UA tones, I think you'd get groupings of 10-14 tones in length, double the 5-7 length of the UA groupings. Ie. I'm not suggesting the UA is talking in ITF, just pointing out that this signal is slapping you in the face with clear structure. :)
 
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marx

marx
I tried jettisoning the artefact inside a station's atmosphere, with the help of Cmdr Myser. Unfortunately, it degraded the same way as usual, and I couldn't even make out the signal among all the starport noise. Thankfully, I managed to recover the artefact, so I'll still be able to make more recordings. I should have more for y'all tomorrow.
 
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