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Guilds in Elite Dangerous
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The roadmap never included powers either. Yet here they are, at our doorstep. Getting closer to guilds you cant deny that. Next up i suspect they will add in some kind of constructible space stations for powers. And then player factions
We're all good then. Shall we just close this now?
Or reactivate the poll.
Which is absolutely fine!
Why should they? Nothing bad about that. Even better: these groups cannnot decide how I will play, I can do what I want, and other people can group up and stuff. Its fantastic, everybdoy wins.
The Guild lobbyists are not one single entity arguing for one single thing. You presume too much - please try not to infer motives for other members. I want improved social tools to allow me to communicate and manage a player group inside the game. Other people want corps, player-owned and managed entities - which I do not. The discussion is more subtle than your comment warrants.
I don't think Powerplay is the answer that I'm looking for, but it could be a foundation for it.
Working on the basic principle of:
- I'm looking for a set of tools that will allow myself and affiliated players to more easily communicate, manage membership and coordinate from within the game engine.
- Powerplay alone is too large. I have no ability to control who else is associated with the power that I and my friends are affiliated with (and nor should I have any) and I may well not wish to communicate with other people outside of my chosen group.
- All these "Guilds" should be are informing groupings of players who choose to associate with each other. Their ability to impact other players should be constrained in exactly the same way that exists currently - in order to preserve the game experience for players not associated with the Guild.
So - what if a Guild had to be registered with a selected Power. All members of that Guild are automatically in that Power's sphere of influence, but the Guild layer just gives the functionality to socialise more elegantly across more than four players. (I'm thinking specifically of membership control and a closed chat channel - but other tools may be useful.)
All other players would see is the Power membership. No tags, no L33Tness. No Guild domination.
You are a pilot, not Ming the Merciless. All the emphasis in your post is about controlling other players.
Down with this sort of thing.
You're trolling, right? Just in case you're not - all of the control (which would be about controlling membership, not actions) is exerted on the members of the guild. Not random players.
Controlling membership allows control of actions. "Do this or you will be kicked from our group and you will be our enemy."
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That's why Frontier's forthcoming implementation Power Play is quite enlightened, in my opinion, it allows players who need / want to be part of a larger group to do so without the few dictating what the group will do. The actions of the Power will, from what I have read, be voted on weekly - with players higher up in the Power rankings having more sway (but still not the ability to dictate).
I have no objection to that (in fact, quite the opposite - I'm with you in that this is going to be a very positive addition to the game). But it doesn't address the social grouping and tools element in any way.
Membership being the first and foremost form of control, no players should have this power (IMO).
Thanks Robert that sounds like a sensible compromise, I take it that membership is up to individual players not existing members ?.
The Devs never said there wouldn't be clans. FD said they were looking at it. They just dont want them to take over.
HELLO!?!? 400 billion systems! Let me put that in perspective. If every EVE player were to join this game and form one big alliance they could not take over the game. Not even put a dent in it. Its 400 billion systems large!!! There is plenty of room for all guilds to get what they want. Yes, organised and controlled fleets using complementing loadouts on ships to form a very efficient fleet. Strip mining as an org to build big things as a team. What ever they want to do. They want it all in the game and the freedom to do what we want.
You my friend have the freedom to play in solo mode. problem solved! Those who have hate for team play can play solo mode. Those who have hate for team play can play solo mode. Should I say it again?
THOSE WHO HAVE HATE FOR GUILDS, TEAM PLAY AND LARGE SCALE PEW CAN PLAY SOLO MODE!!!
Oh yea, if you dont contribute to our goal as a group your out!!! Straight up!
OMG, it just dawned on me. These guys that are afraid of being told what to do are the same kind of people that just want to mine a belt while their alliance is in a CTA! They want the benefit with out contribution. If there are no alliances they wont be forced to contribute. They can fly around squishing single players like bugs.
Hmmm, Lets roll play, shall we? Not!
SOLO PLAY! Hate alliances and orgs all you want while playing solo!!!
So in other words, Guilds want to take over Open and if you don't like it go to Solo.
Edit: You also seem to be under the misapprehension that disagreeing with Guilds in Elite means we hate guilds. For example, I founded and managed several PBM guilds over 20 years ago via snail mail letters and I've been part of several in various games/forms since. I'm not necessarily against guilds, I'm just against guilds in Elite.
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No thanks. Attitudes like that don't really help things, I'd even go so far as to say that there will be some players going into Open purely to grief guildies.
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I have always found friend do see to come and go, only enemies seem to accumulate without a limit.
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Screaming aside, this isn't about hating guilds.
I enjoy playing in open with the large disconnected group I belong to.
We have a cluster of stars we prod in the Background Sim, Certain minor factions we support.
Organised trade wings, combat wings, training flight, exploration missions, and flight of fancy.
A great lot of chaps and it has been fun getting to know them
I dislike the insistence that only your vision of clans, copied from other games, is the only way to play the game as a large group.
Re:there are 400 billion stars, but civilized space isn't 400 billion so your argument there makes as much sense as me suggesting you and your version of clans could have one of the other arms of the galaxy to play in, you know where there are no stations.... yeah, that makes sense.
Re: Open play being for you vision and your vision alone, cant you start your own group and have you clan there, and leave open for the independent pilots?
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