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Is there anything someone can do about (and I use the term loosely) people that interdict you and kill you while your ship is empty while you are try to play the game and trade its getting beyond a joke now
Grief them.

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thus griefed griefer is a flyffy, pretty, pink griefbear.
 
Wing up with escorts? I am happy to wing and help anyone in Open. I have a Vulture for this purpose and all I do is fight so I'm your man!
Ah that would require intelligence a smidgin of responsibilty for ones own actions and acceptance that things may happen that you dont like and restraint from blaming everything on FD or requiring them to change the game for every player subjective experiences ! rare things in modern console me me me generation
 
It's anti-social, it's mindless, it's annoying, it's a pain in the neck, it's bullying, it's unwanted and often causes the target grief, it's many many negative things... but I have to agree that it's not actually griefing as piracy and murder ARE legitimate parts of the game (unless you get someone repeatedly targetting the same person or something similar). The problem isn't so much the behaviour, it's the lack of consequence for it that make it "cheap and easy".

We have no clue what he did after he was interdicted. Did he submit to the scan? Did he try to boost away? If it was the latter, it's not mindless, anti-social, or "bullying." (good grief do you have a victim complex.)

If he submitted to a scan, was found to be empty, and then killed anyway... then it was all of those things sans 'bullying,' which is a very real societal problem that is not manifesting itself in this scenario. At all.
 
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two totally different subjects gameplay and game mode what do you play ? im guessing solo i wonder why ? on the subject of griefing i would suggest you look up the deffinition of it and then read the game description and educate yourself

Looking up the definition would be easy if there were one. The trouble is that there are gazillions of them. Just like you could undoubtedly findone that fits your view like a glove, I'm sure the person you responded to could do so as well.
 
Yeah that's just a murdering jerk.

Murders would probably happen less if the bounty was more than half of a torpedo. Make it scale to the ship and victims rebuy cost. Otherwise people will just keep killing for sport and barely get a slap on the wrist, while the victem has to shell out potentially millions of credits.
 
Yeah that's just a murdering jerk.

Murders would probably happen less if the bounty was more than half of a torpedo. Make it scale to the ship and victims rebuy cost. Otherwise people will just keep killing for sport and barely get a slap on the wrist, while the victem has to shell out potentially millions of credits.

I've always been all for this remedy. Scaling the bounty with the cost of the ship is key. However, it wouldn't really do much to dissuade someone who just wants to blast a hauler for the yucks.
 
Firstly, Yes it is murder. and Yes it is griefing. Moon and i are both working the community Goal at the moment. And for the most part, we have been fine with getting interdicted. It is when you get interdicted and immediately fired upon by a humam player. We cannot expect NPC's to follow a "normal" thought process, they are programmed to do a job. period. Human players on the other hand have the ability to communicate. This is why i enjoy (begrudgingly) the presence of groups like "The Code" i have been pirated a few times by them and they have always been courteous enough to make a reasonable request, take their cut and leave me alone. If i am stupid enough to decline, i either get away with barely a hair on my head or i die. the fact remains that they were courteous enough to speak to me, make a demand and leave an opportunity to save my own skin. It is the players that simple murder for the sake of murder that are griefing. at least talk or make a demand and allow the person to respond before you kick their head in. If you disagree, then good for you. but this is my opinion.
 
Indeed I do - removed non relevant parts :)



There are more posts by the Devs in that thread - all part of power play 1.3.

And, for what it's worth my status is clean .. I was killed 2 days ago and the slate wiped :p


Do you have a link to that thread? So basically you will have to pay a toll every time you enter a system if you pirate it? Isn't that just like government, another racketeering scheme, I'm not even a pirate and that doesn't make sense. I think it should probably be more of GTA type of situation, like if you have a really high bounty and someone scans you word goes out on the wire and there is a heavy increase in system security and an alert is sent out to bounty hunters or something that you have been seen in the system, sort of an amber alert for criminal scum.
 
Firstly, Yes it is murder. and Yes it is griefing. Moon and i are both working the community Goal at the moment. And for the most part, we have been fine with getting interdicted. It is when you get interdicted and immediately fired upon by a humam player. We cannot expect NPC's to follow a "normal" thought process, they are programmed to do a job. period. Human players on the other hand have the ability to communicate. This is why i enjoy (begrudgingly) the presence of groups like "The Code" i have been pirated a few times by them and they have always been courteous enough to make a reasonable request, take their cut and leave me alone. If i am stupid enough to decline, i either get away with barely a hair on my head or i die. the fact remains that they were courteous enough to speak to me, make a demand and leave an opportunity to save my own skin. It is the players that simple murder for the sake of murder that are griefing. at least talk or make a demand and allow the person to respond before you kick their head in. If you disagree, then good for you. but this is my opinion.

No, it's neither murder nor griefing. I'm a xenophobe that doesn't want any strangers in my system. I'm not a pirate, I'm not at all interested in your cargo. Or maybe I'm a mad preacher that acts as a hand of god that wants everyone to repent for his sins. Or maybe I support a minor faction and I don't want anyone in this system. Whatever my RP is, it gives me every right to shoot at everyone. If you don't like it, you can move away, fight back or get your friends to help you. But you can't report me to FD for griefing, because it isn't.

It's not murder because you're never killed in this game. Only your ship gets destroyed and you're safely transported in your escape pod.
 
Is there anything someone can do about (and I use the term loosely) people that interdict you and kill you while your ship is empty while you are try to play the game and trade its getting beyond a joke now

Trade in a Wing - I'm surprised not many people have actually done this or recognised it as a valid tactic (e.g. Diso community goal - play in open and group together in a Wing for protection).

I've tried asking if people want to and got zero response.

Got to play the game smarter boys and girls.

To the OP = it's annoying but it's not griefing.
 
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We have no clue what he did after he was interdicted. Did he submit to the scan? Did he try to boost away? If it was the latter, it's not mindless, anti-social, or "bullying." (good grief do you have a victim complex.)

Calm down, I wasn't talking only about this specific example. I was referring to the many things that incorrectly get called griefing. There is grieifing in the game, but this isn't it.

Oh and FYI.. the one with the "victim complex" is the one who keeps jumping up to defend themselves needlessly when they (erroneously) feel they're being attacked. In this circumstance that would be you... since I was actually AGREEING with you.
 
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Calm down, I wasn't talking only about this specific example. I was referring to the many things that incorrectly get called griefing. There is grieifing in the game, but this isn't it.

Oh and FYI.. the one with the "victim complex" is the one who keeps jumping up top defend themselves when they (erroniously) feel they're being attacked. In this circumstance that would be you... since I was actually AGREEING with you.

There's no griefing in this game. Only verbal harassment.
 
There's no griefing in this game. Only verbal harassment.

That's crap. A player who continually attacks others who are unable to defend themselves in order to gain pleasure from their displeasure is clearly griefing. Don't try to tell me that doesn't happen. Yes there's a solution by going to another play mode, but the fact that there's a solution doesn't make the cause any less problematic.
 
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That's crap. A player who continually attacks others who are unable to defend themselves in order to gain pleasure from their displeasure is clearly griefing. Don't try to tell me that doesn't happen. Yes there's a solution by going to another play mode, but the fact that there's a solution doesn't make the cause any less problematic.

It. Is. Not. Griefing. It's a game mechanic.
 
Calm down, I wasn't talking only about this specific example. I was referring to the many things that incorrectly get called griefing. There is grieifing in the game, but this isn't it.

Oh and FYI.. the one with the "victim complex" is the one who keeps jumping up to defend themselves needlessly when they (erroneously) feel they're being attacked. In this circumstance that would be you... since I was actually AGREEING with you.


No, there's a pattern here. I've seen you accuse others endlessly of 'emotional blackmail,' 'victim blaming,' 'bullying,' etc etc many many times. You just need a little context check. I don't care if you agree with me on something, it's silly.

But I digress. I don't want a penalty.
 
It. Is. Not. Griefing. It's a game mechanic.

No, abuse of game mechanics is griefing. FD patch and change things that were not important and waste Dev time on stupid things because some folks just don't want to play nice and by the intent of the game.

Constantly harassing someone in game is griefing - in life it is illegal and the person can be arrested, no matter how you want to dress it up, it is uncalled for and out of order, forcing the Devs to waste more time changing how interdictors work (and they will have to if people keep abusing them) to stop constant interdictions of the same player.

People moan there is no content to play, but how will there be when the Devs have to going back and redesigning core gameplay mechanics because of abuse.
 
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Run, and pray they don't have hacked weapons!

Is there anything someone can do about (and I use the term loosely) people that interdict you and kill you while your ship is empty while you are try to play the game and trade its getting beyond a joke now


Just learn how to Run! in my type 6 i always throttle down then with 4 pips on engine power hit 100% throttle + boost and the jump button most npcs are too slow but some players are too remember that these pirates are using the hacks available to immobilise your ship with one shot.

so they are cheating! wait for 1.3
 
If you really think it's abuse of a game mechanic then feel free to report me (or anyone else) to FD whenever I repeatedly kill you and see what will FD's response be.

I see no point in further discussion.

If you grief me by abusing game mechanics you can bet your life I'll report you. If it were INTENDED, FD wouldn't be putting in stronger consequences and patches to attempt to reduce it.
 
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