This is probably a bug, but have a laugh at my stupidity anyway :)

[fergal]

I'm in Diso smuggling some water purifiers, and as I'm landing I notice a wanted FDL coming in.
I should have shot at him, but I was busy watching for rammers.

He remained wanted, so I waited until he left, and followed. Although I was in my trade ship I figured he wouldn't last long against the stations firepower if he shot back.

I was half right

enjoy

[video=youtube;e-YjvxLKgp4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YjvxLKgp4[/video]

 

[Milkdragon]

haha this is not a bug. This feature to prevent players from pirating other players inside stations or near them. Hence it being called station safe zone/ no fire zone.. Also to clean up any NPC ships that get stuck in and around the station

 

[fergal]

haha this is not a bug. This feature to prevent players from pirating other players inside stations or near them. Hence it being called station safe zone/ no fire zone..

Well, I didn't hit the station that I could tell, and I've kill plenty of ships doing exactly that.

 

[AndreyATGB]

Can you clarify what your plan was here? The chances you can kill him before the station kills you are extremely low, so why would he fight back? Also even assuming he gets killed before you do, there's no way you're surviving the station's defenses in a trading Python.

 

[Milkdragon]

But notice that you fired within the station. Which is a huge violation = equals your death

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

It didn't used to be like that.

If you fired upon someone within the "no fire zone" you were fined. This used to be a valid tactic for taking out wanted commanders who thought they were safe - the risk was that if a stray bullet hit the station you were in deep trouble.

Definitely used this tactic during 1.1 when I spotted a wanted commander whose bounty was several K and the resultant fine (after the killing) was IIRC 500cr or so and made it worth the risk.

I guess FD changed it.

 

[fergal]

Can you clarify what your plan was here? The chances you can kill him before the station kills you are extremely low, so why would he fight back? Also even assuming he gets killed before you do, there's no way you're surviving the station's defenses in a trading Python.

My plan was for the station to not shoot me because I didn't shoot it.
I thought he would probably boost away from me, but thought I would give it a go.

But notice that you fired within the station. Which is a huge violation = equals your death

Does it? I didn't realise it was any different from the no fire zone.

 

[AndreyATGB]

It didn't used to be like that.

If you fired upon someone within the "no fire zone" you were fined. This used to be a valid tactic for taking out wanted commanders who thought they were safe - the risk was that if a stray bullet hit the station you were in deep trouble.

I guess FD changed it.

Wasn't this a change in 1.2 to counter the rocket griefing? Regardless it makes perfect sense to get shot at if you shoot in a no fire zone.

 

[Bacon Sarnie]

You've gotten all the way up to flying a Python and still dont know that if you open fire in a no fire zone that the station is going to spank you?
The no fire zone is also inside the station, yet you appear not to know that either.
Something not right there.

 

[Astronut57]

Let me get this straight. You've worked your way up to a Python and you were unaware of the consequences of firing weapons in a no-fire zone. How long have you been playing ED?

<I got ninja'd>

 

[NeilUK02]

As I understand the no fire zone doesn't just mean IN the station, it means around the station as well, you should see a message come up as you get further away saying "No fire zone left" only then is it safe to fire. Also I'm pretty sure if needed a station can fire at two ships at once but it will always start with the one who fired first

 

[Milkdragon]

Yes watch the video again you get a double fine its quick but its there. The second fine was for firing inside the station.. Also i just noticed in the video that when you fired your lasers your bottom laser may have hit the station.

 

[fergal]

You've gotten all the way up to flying a Python and still dont know that if you open fire in a no fire zone that the station is going to spank you?
The no fire zone is also inside the station, yet you appear not to know that either.
Something not right there.

I know there is a no fire zone in the station

Talking with the other player, he claims to have paid off his bounty, so wasn't wanted.
Looked pretty wanted to me, for about 6000cr.

 

[furrycat]

On a related note, what might be a bug is the way ships under fire from the authorities make no attempt to flee but rather fly in and out of the no-fire zone until they get blown up.

I've watched them a few times, thinking that if they get out of the zone I could get a quick and easy bounty by taking them out. They'll fly out, then fly back in, then fly out again. A more sensible tactic would be to jump away.

Perhaps the AI is programmed to fly from station A to station B and doesn't have a contingency plan for when the station is hostile.

Fly (to station C) you fools, as Gandalf would say.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

Wasn't this a change in 1.2 to counter the rocket griefing? Regardless it makes perfect sense to get shot at if you shoot in a no fire zone.

Not sure - I missed the launch of 1.2 so failed to read the patch notes. It seems fair enough though .. now they just need to deal with the rammers

 

[Eminor]

To be fair the station will dispense lethal justice for landing violations and loitering... Remind us what you were doing exactly ? .

Never mind. Thanks for posting, made me smile...

 

[fergal]

Yes watch the video again you get a double fine its quick but its there. The second fine was for firing inside the station.. Also i just noticed in the video that when you fired your lasers your bottom laser may have hit the station.

I watched it again, and the station turns red as soon as I hit him with the two size 2 pulse lasers. The size 3 took a bit longer to deploy, and when they fired the second fine happened. I don't think I hit the station.

 

[gazelle]

If you take a look at your upper left panel you will see that you violated the "strict no fire zone" and "lethal response authorised". You also got fined two times, one time for "strict no fire zone" (inside station) and one for "no fire zone" (outside station).

The lethal response is because of shooting inside the station, I think.

 

[fergal]

If you take a look at your upper left panel you will see that you violated the "strict no fire zone" and "lethal response authorised". You also got fined two times, one time for "strict no fire zone" (inside station) and one for "no fire zone" (outside station).

The lethal response is because of shooting inside the station, I think.

You might be right, I think I will test that in a sidewinder instead of my python

 

[Adept]

But notice that you fired within the station. Which is a huge violation = equals your death

This is what you did wrong. You should have waited to clear the docking port before you opened fire. Pretty bold going for an Elite rated player in a FdL btw