why ar ewhite dwarfs worth so much (exploration data)
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Good luck mining those beauties.
Scarcity economics basics. ELW, BH, Neutron, WD, Ammonia Worlds.....all of those are very rare, an not in abundance in the Galaxy...even if there are regions with lots of them, those regions are far and apart from civilized space....same principle why diamonds and gold are so highly valued: rarity!
If this were true, shouldn't water giants be worth a fortune? It cant be purely scarcity or they would be (or FDev need to dramatically increase the rewards for water giants. Which they should.)
What you said in parentheses.
Just to be clear, a Gas Giant with Water Based Life is different than a Water Giant. The former is worth about 1,600 while -certainly not much- and I have no idea on the latter.
If it is as you said, low valued, then it should be brought up in the payment schedule. Becuase even if we were to be basing this on "science", truth is that any "rare" object is indeed "rare" for study, hence, should be highly valued regardless.
As far as Im aware theyre worth about 1600 just like water/ammonia life giants
Carbon stars, likewise. I finally found my first one - amusingly, while scanning systems as I was passing through between bits of human space, rather than while out on a survey trip - and was disappointed to find it only paid about the same as a sequence star.
That's seriously dissapointing. I think Herbig Ae/Be stars are paltry earners too. I think Frontier needs to do a QC pass on these things really.
Ooh! idea: What if exploration data worked like the economic model whereby data demands shift and if certain pieces of data are not being brought in, their value increases? So all those blank rocks we're not scanning start to increase in value. Its the laws of SUPPLY and demand. Sure there may be a trillion blank rocks out there but if no one is bringing in their data, their data will be worth more. They must have a glut of neutron data by now why are they still buying it for so much? It would be nice to be able to buy some of this data too, I would actually purchase a ton of brown dwarf data at the moment but cant. How is universal cartographics making any money if theyre not selling this stuff were bringing in?
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OK. I'm beat! I give up!!! It should be scarcity!! Doesn't make sense to do it other way.
But hey! It's FD....really some crazy decisions in the gameplay....I doubt the economics of it all are any consistent or cohesive. Throughout the game. Mining, exploration, bounty hunting, price on ships....they don't seem to make sense when you put them together. Not a whole lot anyways...
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you know, I've seen it but Ive never actually paid attention until now
Water giants are worth half what a standard class I giant is worth? For real? and why are class IV and V worth so little? Ive never even seen a helium giant in someone elses screenshot! This stuff needs a balance pass big time.
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The pricing makes little sense at either the level of being representative of the value to humanity or a way of scoring explorers.
For "value to humanity" pricing stars based on rarity makes sense, but that model isn't followed. It seems obvious that there is good money for ELWs, terraformables etc. However these need to be weighted so accessibility becomes valued (i.e. an ELW near to Sol is more valuable than one 30kly away.
Value for mineral deposits is another angle. Worlds that are primarily for extraction (metal rich) don't feel like they are inherently more valuable than say a GG with Metallic rings. Again, the viability of the deposit for exploitation matters.
However, because a lot of this is about scoring to measure what an "Elite" explorer is, I'd like to see more reward for finding unusual stuff and stuff that is hard or boring to get - so more reward for things a long way away in ly and in ls (going 500,000ls for a icy planet should be rewarded IMO). Rewards for completing systems (i.e. a reward for scanning the last body).
For "value to humanity" pricing stars based on rarity makes sense, but that model isn't followed. It seems obvious that there is good money for ELWs, terraformables etc. However these need to be weighted so accessibility becomes valued (i.e. an ELW near to Sol is more valuable than one 30kly away.
Value for mineral deposits is another angle. Worlds that are primarily for extraction (metal rich) don't feel like they are inherently more valuable than say a GG with Metallic rings. Again, the viability of the deposit for exploitation matters.
However, because a lot of this is about scoring to measure what an "Elite" explorer is, I'd like to see more reward for finding unusual stuff and stuff that is hard or boring to get - so more reward for things a long way away in ly and in ls (going 500,000ls for a icy planet should be rewarded IMO). Rewards for completing systems (i.e. a reward for scanning the last body).
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well, rare and old does not really mean expensive. I have a '67 buick that is rare, old, and in perfect shape, but not worth much, 'cause no one wants it.
Rare, old, and desireable -- now that's going to be expensive. Other than rare, is there some reason someone would want scans of these things?
rare items(rarer than what their reward is) :
water giants
ammonia worlds
water based life giants
class 4 and 5 giants
