No, it's not similar to that i the slightest, get real. Sadly it's an acknowledgement of the fact that any dissenting opinions on the game (valid or not) tend to be met by rather personal, aggressive and trollish replies by a certain subsection of this forum community, many of whom are backers and should damn well know how to behave better.
Planning to sell an expansion over an incomplete game is wrong!
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No, it's not similar to that i the slightest, get real. Sadly it's an acknowledgement of the fact that any dissenting opinions on the game (valid or not) tend to be met by rather personal, aggressive and trollish replies by a certain subsection of this forum community, many of whom are backers and should damn well know how to behave better.
It is, however, like saying "I think this album should have two more tracks than it does now so it's incomplete."
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Considering it's a huge online multiplayer player with constant updates and new features, and no subscription charge whatsoever, then I applaud Frontier's business model. Pay €50, get a massive game, with updates, no subscriptions ever, and optional paid expansions. Compare that with the iOS gaming model - free game, with cooldown timers/currency models that push you into buying regular currency packs. Yeeeeeeuch.
All? Including his main point (and the title of the thread) that the content that was always planned and announced to be DLC should be free? Just no.
1. Planetary landings and walking around stations/ships were always planned to be in paid-for expansions, not part of the core game.
2. The updates we have had so far, including the up-coming Powerplay 1.3 update have all been free.
3. Frontier did say the game wouldn't be complete on day one and anyone buying the game, if they had done their research, would know that.
4. A lot of people who have bought the game are enjoying playing Elite: Dangerous and personally I have spent more time playing Elite: Dangerous than any other AAA game and the game has certainly been worth the amount I paid for it.
I don't see the "problem" highlighted by the OP.
2. The updates we have had so far, including the up-coming Powerplay 1.3 update have all been free.
3. Frontier did say the game wouldn't be complete on day one and anyone buying the game, if they had done their research, would know that.
4. A lot of people who have bought the game are enjoying playing Elite: Dangerous and personally I have spent more time playing Elite: Dangerous than any other AAA game and the game has certainly been worth the amount I paid for it.
I don't see the "problem" highlighted by the OP.
I'm going to put my blunt version on this:
I appreciate then English may not be your first language - so how may years of learning has it taken you to get the the level you're at? Because, believe me, it's not great.
Why is that relevant?
Code is not the developers' first language, not by a long way, and for programs to work the code has to be perfect - not vaguely near and we'll work out what you mean.
Simply put - if you can do better, please do. (You can't.)
If you can't, feel free to make suggestions, but this kind of "I'm entitled to xxx" ranting is childish and annoying. Stop it.
If you really hate the game (as it is) and think it's not worth what you paid, go direct to Frontier and demand your money back.
I appreciate then English may not be your first language - so how may years of learning has it taken you to get the the level you're at? Because, believe me, it's not great.
Why is that relevant?
Code is not the developers' first language, not by a long way, and for programs to work the code has to be perfect - not vaguely near and we'll work out what you mean.
Simply put - if you can do better, please do. (You can't.)
If you can't, feel free to make suggestions, but this kind of "I'm entitled to xxx" ranting is childish and annoying. Stop it.
If you really hate the game (as it is) and think it's not worth what you paid, go direct to Frontier and demand your money back.
Or indeed - If the artist had given me several updated versions of the tracks I was not keen on, for free, since I purchased the album. Just no more completely new tracks.
+1. Perfectly put. Also brilliant signature.
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Am I the only one noticing an abrasive logical issue here?
Perhaps the OP has inside knowledge that the expansion will cost more than £120?
Or was it the implication that £200 is the same as €200?
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Agreed, in fact given that we are now approximately six months after release and have yet to hear anything about the first paid expansion makes me even more happy with FD, some developers (Bungie as an example) would have thrown a paid expansion out by now.
I am not gonna multiquote, but some people choose to answer by saying nothing but this nonsense. If you dont wanna read what this guy says, Why do you even post? I guess you are one of those that have an answer for a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g. You know what Clint Eastwood said about opinions, right?
Now, the problem that the OP has with this game is that FD wasn't quite honest about it. Their main motto was "a living-breathing galaxy". Well the galaxy is beautiful but it's not alive. It lacks depth and the background sim is $%$*$#. We 've been through this over and over again in the past and i have to admit that FD are trying to improve it but this game still feels far from finished.
You should also keep in mind that a casual gamer doesn't give a rat's ass whether the development company consists of 2 people based on a garage or a team of god-developers based on a high tech establishment. Other elements such as, budget, share prices and sales of a game are not of importance for a potential byer and should not be. Two things are important. Price tag and consinstency. If FD says that you are bying a complete game, then it should be complete. If not, than this is called inconsistency. Saying that "we will keep developing the game after release" is a lot different than "we will have a complete game somewhere in the distant future"
Nevertheless, we live in a planet where not everything is working as intended. That said, companies will make mistakes and there is nothing suspicious about it, unless they do nothing to rectify it. FD are trying and that is a fact. If you ask me, i think that ED will never be the game i thought it will be, but still, it can be a game worthy of every euro/dollar spent and i am cool with that. Most probably, it will never get a 10 from me but it can reach an 8. Not bad, not bad.
On the other hand, i believe that people today have every right to show their frustration, cause they feel that they bought a pre-released version of a game with a huge potential. They feel violated and unlike others they do not enjoy it. It's in FD's hands to prove us wrong and i have faith in them. Untill then...
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Elite: Bad Analogy in full effect in this thread.
Exactly, because if they aren't free, I will request a refund for the Lifetime Expansion Pass. However, aside from planetary landings and walking around ships, it's still up to FD what will, or will not, fall under the LEP.
Perhaps the OP has inside knowledge that the expansion will cost more than £120?
Or was it the implication that £200 is the same as €200?
Hehehe, good second point. Missed that one.