Clipper or Python for Trading?

That's actually not correct. Trader Python is 70 million credits. Trader Anaconda is 170 million. Buying a Python sets you back 5.5 million credits

So the question is, does the Python earn 105.5 million credits faster than the Clipper earns 100 million? Nice even number, so the question is: Does one trip in a Python pay more than 105.5% of a Clipper trip?

Clipper carries 240 tons, Python 284 tons. In other words, the Python carries 118% of the cargo of the Clipper. That means the Python makes 18% more profit per trip than the Clipper.

So how much faster is the Python?

Assuming a 2500cr/t round trip, the Python earns 710k, the Clipper 600k. The Python will therefore make the 105.5m credits required to upgrade to the Anaconda in 149 round trips. The Clipper however needs 167 round trips to make the 100 million for the Anaconda.


BTW; the Jumprange on the Python is almost as good as the Clipper with equal fittings. And if you fly on half a tank of fuel, you have the same range as the clipper, and an even better jump range. This is because the frame mass of the Clipper is 400t, and the Python is only 350t, this completely offsets the extra cargo weight of 44t.

I forgot to add 1 fact. I don't sell the old ships (because they still have their uses), so I have to recoup the whole price of a Python.
 
I forgot to add 1 fact. I don't sell the old ships (because they still have their uses), so I have to recoup the whole price of a Python.

Well that simplifies it then.

The only question is "do you want a python?"

If the answer isn't a resounding yes, then skip it and go straight to the Annie. If the answer is a yes, then get the Python and trade. As you make more credits, you'll have the ability to upgrade the Python, knowing every credit you invest in modules can be recouped 100%, towards buying the Annie.

I did it this way. Trading and hunting interchangeably, until I had enough to buy the anaconda. I included the resale value of my python modules, stripped it down to its hull, bought the anaconda with enough credits to fit it for pure trade, kept enough for a couple rebuys, then proceeded to trade enough to rebuy all the modules for the Python (and then some).
 
I moved from Clipper to Python and much prefer the Python. Even with D grade thrusters it seems much more agile than the Clipper, to me it handles like a much smaller ship - just point the nose where you want to go and it goes. I find going through the slot at speed easy in a Python and harder in a Clipper.
 
I forgot to add 1 fact. I don't sell the old ships (because they still have their uses), so I have to recoup the whole price of a Python.

I can't wrap my head around it. You don't buy the Python, because you wouldn't sell it, but you don't want a Python, so you just keep trading in the Clipper? Either way, that's slower than always upgrading to the next ship.

Yeah, making 170 million in a Python takes longer than 100 million in a Clipper.
 
A total no-brainer. When I switched from Clipper to Python for my trading, it was a breath of fresh air. More cargo capacity, more landing options, not to mention less drifty and better behaved when landing.

If the OP is frightened of interdictions, s/he/it should review their controls and check that they know where the FSD/boost binds and similar are.

1. It's a gas guzzler: I'm not a particular fan of fuel scoops on trading runs. I guess in my opinion time is money and I would rather just buy the fuel at the station than waste time scooping it. I'm worried that fuel costs will start cutting into the extra profits I'm making off my extra cargo space.

This is just bewildering. If fuel scooping while trading is an issue for you, get better trade routes. Basic gameplay issue. Fuel is trivially cheap too- if the cost is worrying you, get better trade routes. When you're making 800K per short round trip or more, a few K on fuel is down in the noise as far as costs go.

OP, you're maybe having a bad time because you're missing/misunderstanding some basics- it's possible with a bit of remedial nerding out, you could have more success (which is a good thing!) :)
 
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I much prefer the Clipper. I sold mine to get a Python w/ the Zaonce discount. What the Clipper loses in terms of thrusters for docking it gains back in spades with regard to the time it takes to get to stations and out of mass lock when jumping away from one. That said, I agree, the clipper drifts a lot at low speeds which is a pain when docking, and its vertical and lateral thrusters feel anemic. In combat, it's not bad because the ship's tendency to slide can be used for maneuvers many other ships can't do easily (fun factor).

A Clipper is arguably better at avoiding interdiction due to what to me feels like better agility in supercruise, but it's offset by really weak shieldsin trader trim. For comparison, a Clipper with a A3 shield gen has 42% of the shield strength of a Python with the same generator. Even upgrading to an A4 on the Clipper brings it's shields to 62% of the A3 on a the Python if the table below is correct.

In summary, the Python is overall a better ship than the Clipper in most categories, but the Clipper is definitely a ship I prefer to fly, and I fully intend to get another at the earliest opportunity.

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The ability to land on an outpost makes the python a better trader than the clipper. The highest per ton trade profits I have seen in game involve an outpost
 
Clipper for open play due to you are a sitting duck in a python.

Python in solo due to better landing options and cargo capacity.
 
Clipper for open play due to you are a sitting duck in a python.

Python in solo due to better landing options and cargo capacity.

really, i was under the impression the python had good shields? enough to allow you to FSD out after an interdiction?
 
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really, i was under the impression the python had good shields? enough to allow you to FSD out after an interdiction?

Since the wings update you will not face single cmdrs anymore. A python do not stand a chance against 1 FDL with one or more friends if they played pvp before. Also currently the shield is broken so you could face an e.g. an ASP with a much better shield than an Anaconda with 8 shield boosters. But top speed is to my knowledge not broken so the clipper can escape everything if you have a 6A power dist and thruster.. but remember the head sink so that u do not boil when trying to escape from another clipper if you are late on the initial boost.
 
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