Instance limit?

ste · May 24, 2015

Whats the instance limit now. Number of ships. It seems to have increased dramatically without me even noticing except today when their must have been about 80 ships in the area and I was getting like 13fps.

About 60 of them must have been NPC police though.

I'm happy that the limit is alot higher except for the fps, it only happened once that it seriously impacted my fps.

Has it been changed?

Cody · May 24, 2015

Still a max of 32, I believe - but that is players, not NPCs. There can be many more NPCS.

Ziegfried · May 24, 2015

Cody said:
Still a max of 32, I believe - but that is players, not NPCs. There can be many more NPCS.

Is there any way to see how many people are in "your" instance? Though a cap of 32 would explain why I never see anyone.. Pirated

Cody · May 24, 2015

The scanner tags of players are hollow, I believe - NPC tags are solid.

ste · May 24, 2015

Cody said:
Still a max of 32, I believe - but that is players, not NPCs. There can be many more NPCS.

Well thats higher than it was, it used to be 8 or 16 I think. And that might have included NPCs.

Ziegfried said:
Is there any way to see how many people are in "your" instance? Though a cap of 32 would explain why I never see anyone.. Pirated

That wouldnt explain why you dont see anyone, as its 32 players max in your vicinity, in radar range. Having 32 players in your near vicinity is a lot. And in most places will never be reached.

The reason you might not see anyone is because nobody else is there to see because you are the only one where you are. A place where nobody often visits.

If you hang about near sol, lave or CGs you will see loads of people.

Ziegfried · May 24, 2015

ste said:
Well thats higher than it was, it used to be 8 or 16 I think. And that might have included NPCs.

That wouldnt explain why you dont see anyone, as its 32 players max in your vicinity, in radar range. Having 32 players in your near vicinity is a lot. And in most places will never be reached.

The reason you might not see anyone is because nobody else is there to see because you are the only one where you are. A place where nobody often visits.

If you hang about near sol, lave or CGs you will see loads of people.

Thanks for the clarification.

Agarthan · May 24, 2015

Had this issue, have had it multiple times in multiple systems now, too many NPCs/PCs causes a massive frame drop in SC, the music to cut out.

Made a thread about it in the bugs sub but I don't want to bump it because they basically veiled threatened me with a ban for bumping the sol permit thread because they didn't reply to me. May be you can add what happened to you.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=145392

fergal · May 24, 2015

Ziegfried said:
Is there any way to see how many people are in "your" instance? Though a cap of 32 would explain why I never see anyone.. Pirated

no.
32 players is the max quoted, but that collectively.
So you might see one player 6km form you, and that player sees you and one other player, in the opposite direction 6km away, and that player sees the same. You could have 32 players in a "chain" where most only see 2 players. This is an exaggerated example, but because of the short range of the sensors it would be rare to see 32 players, even if you were connected to that many.

You can press ctrl-b in game to show the bandwidth metric. It gives you an idea, but more AI increases the bandwidth, so isn't an exact measurement of the number of players you are connected to.