with conda u can run without combat every single time unless other conda want to pirate you;p
Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].
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with conda u can run without combat every single time unless other conda want to pirate you;p
Giving pirates more targets. I didn't think it was obfuscated at all.
That gameplay style is a choice everyone make by himself...
As far as I understand it, the risk _is_ the reward.
If you want to play with other human players and enjoy the "risks" so generated, you play open. If you don't, you play solo.
There's not going to be a mode for "I want to get more money than everyone else", sorry.
Robert Maynard
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Are you trying to infer that there is *no* risk at all in Solo - whether it be from the environment itself, NPCs, Stations, etc.?
I'm sure that Frontier have statistics available to them that tell them how many player ship losses there have been that do not involve another player....
Fantastic. I'm super happy for you. I'm glad that you get to tell us what is more fun for you, instead of, for example, other people telling you what's more fun.
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"Online SOLO play where the player is in the same universe as all other players, but will see no humans (essentially a private group of one)." essentially a private group of one
Exactly my point. Solo is like swimming in the sea with out sharks, Open is swimming with the sharks. As i said, i would like to see more credit for those prepared to take risks
And those who swim with sharks choose to do, of their own free will.
Because they find it more rewarding.
So it doesn't need anymore rewards does it, as you're getting more than Solo players all ready.
Great advice;
In real life, when faced with the school yard bully.
Not so much for a game people play to relax
Which is why I suggested the solution is to give them viable NPCs to hunt.
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Why don't you just tell us, we're never going to get it. Which are we most scared of?
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Relaxing in a title that has "dangerous" in its name... that's kind of contradictory, don't you think? The title alone implies it is wrought with danger and excitement.
Doesn't trading get boring in solo? Most tell me they do stuff like watch Netflix, read books or whatever else while they do it. That doesn't sound fun to me. It sounds deficient of excitement--something the humans add in open mode.
What about the player trading between two out of the way systems who doesn't see another player for days, even weeks? Why should he be rewarded for playing Open?
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That's not what the title is supposed to imply though. But what business is it of yours how we choose to play? FD gave us different modes to choose from without penalty and that's why we bought the game. Trading isn't any more exciting in Open than Solo. You either escape or you get killed. You maybe get killed a little more often in Open if you trade in dangerous systems (but mostly it's no different). In most cases they both follow pretty much the same script. Dying more often doesn't add excitement.
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But it still begs an answer to my original question to you. As a player who trades in solo, I think you're more than qualified to answer...
Why do traders still insist trading in solo instead of taking this option? Is it the challenge? The hassle? The reduction of profits?
I'm not a player who trades in Solo. I'm a player who plays in Solo. I play in Solo because I find interactions with other people physically draining. I'm an Introvert. I probably can't help you. When I want interactions I play Group with friends.
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Isn't the effort of trying to survive more exciting, challenging or interesting?
Or do you just not even try to survive? I admit, I have seen traders who simply roll over and die when pirated. They typically say something along the lines of, "No!" and then press the self-destruct button on their ship. I have never understood this. They should be in solo mode if that's what they are going to do.
You don't have to die as a trader in open. The majority of pirates do not want to kill you! Pirates lose money if you die. It's opportunity cost, in economic terms. If you, the trader, die, they lose out on cargo and bounties. If the pirate has to shoot you, they lose out on cargo too because the cops might come.
So isn't the chance encounter--something? I don't see how you can consider it the same as solo.
No, i refer to the risks surrounding Human contact only, like the previous example i gave.
I doubt you ever will.
To answer your question
... we want them to earn their goods through potentially encountering the same risks we have. That's why. It is also why I'd like to see a division in assets between game modes. I know it will fracture the community but I'm willing to bet many solo players would decide to try open knowing they won't be able to put their stuff into it--and find out open isn't all that scary to begin with... and actually quite fun.I played Star Raiders on my Atari 2600 in 1983. I played Starmaster the same year. They were awesome fun back then. But they got old because the AI was predictable. Open is unpredictable, but surprisingly civil most of the time.
What about the player for 6 weeks who sees no one while exploring in deep space, then turns up at the Galaxy centre and gets Killed by another player, Losing 6 weeks of data and hard work , Solo players only risk is falling asleep out there as they avoid such risks?
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Running away from a PC is no more or less exciting, challenging or interesting than running away from an NPC. Oh, okay, you may have to put in a tiny bit more evasive flying against a good PC, but it's no more exciting.
Excitement comes from fighting someone who can fight back, not from shooting unarmed traders or running away from players who you can't fight.
Robert Maynard
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.... that type of incident may just kill off exploring in Open.
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