daan2002
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well im not going to lie i was going by how star trek online updates even if you use it through Steam the launcher does the update not steam
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Do NOT get a "free" Steam key if you want to support Frontier
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well im not going to lie i was going by how star trek online updates even if you use it through Steam the launcher does the update not steam
I would like a steam key but I'm holding off in the hope this will be clarified.
If valve do indeed take their cut of the items and merchandise in the Frontier store (or the issue isn't clarified) then I'll simply not generate my key. A shame but I want Frontier to have all the money from my future spending on the store.
If valve do indeed take their cut of the items and merchandise in the Frontier store (or the issue isn't clarified) then I'll simply not generate my key. A shame but I want Frontier to have all the money from my future spending on the store.
I wonder how many sales originated via Steam rather than directly from FD. I hadn't heard of ED until I saw it pop up on Steam... Even if Steam takes a 30% cut, the 70% FD received from me is 100% more than they would have were it not for Steam! 
That said, if I'd known I could purchase directly, that's what I would have done. But, that's a pretty big "if".
That said, if I'd known I could purchase directly, that's what I would have done. But, that's a pretty big "if".
daan2002
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I wonder how many sales originated via Steam rather than directly from FD. I hadn't heard of ED until I saw it pop up on Steam... Even if Steam takes a 30% cut, the 70% FD received from me is 100% more than they would have were it not for Steam!
That said, if I'd known I could purchase directly, that's what I would have done. But, that's a pretty big "if".
i recall a lot of thread poping up i see ppl now when the game hit steam
From my point of view, this interpretation is in line with Michael Brookes' comment in Mid-April...
"... turning EliteDangerous.com customers into Steam customers unfortunately isn't 100 percent our decision and isn’t free for us in the context of the game’s ongoing growth and development."
foil hats off , if you buy from ed store steam do not get a cut. simple as that. if you do have a steam key also and you buy expansions and whatnot from the ed store frontier get all the cash + it will still be linked on steam as all that does is log into your account anyway. the suggestion to buy from frontier is simply that, buying from them gives frontier all the money. buy the same dlc from steam and they take a cut. either way both will link to your main account no matter if its on steam or not.
, if you buy from ed store steam do not get a cut. simple as that. if you do have a steam key also and you buy expansions and whatnot from the ed store frontier get all the cash + it will still be linked on steam as all that does is log into your account anyway. the suggestion to buy from frontier is simply that, buying from them gives frontier all the money. buy the same dlc from steam and they take a cut. either way both will link to your main account no matter if its on steam or not.
I'm not going to feel guilty for taking a Steam key, and by taking one it doesn't imply I am not supporting Frontier. I would be surprised if there was some arrangement that required Frontier to report all the direct sales to Valve, but besides that it might not be as bigger issue anyways I think.
In fact quite the opposite might result from increased exposure on the platform. More active players showing in the lists, more positive reviews, more people sharing screenshots and videos/broadcasts with their friends. More friends getting interesting and buying it. Perhaps not taking a Steam key will actually hurt Frontier more?
In fact quite the opposite might result from increased exposure on the platform. More active players showing in the lists, more positive reviews, more people sharing screenshots and videos/broadcasts with their friends. More friends getting interesting and buying it. Perhaps not taking a Steam key will actually hurt Frontier more?
saw this a bit too late
GABEN IS THE ONE TRUE GOD
... but I'll still buy direct from Frontier's store. I think people are over-analyzing this a bit. If you want to support FD, write a good review on Steam to get more people to buy the game.
... but I'll still buy direct from Frontier's store. I think people are over-analyzing this a bit. If you want to support FD, write a good review on Steam to get more people to buy the game.
Keeps track of your hours, you can leave a positive review of the game for other steam users to see before they buy and hitting f12 in game automatically screenshots and sends it to your steam account where it can be uploaded and shared.
Edit: why do people even bother commenting if they don't read a whole thread, not only is there no evidence for what OP is saying, but any one of us who's already connected the two know that there is no store option from steam for FD so that means the store stays separate, which means the sales stay exclusive to FD.
This isn't rocket science here ladies and gentlmen.
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None of which bother me.
How many hours have i played? Far too many, and not enough
Write a positive review? A one off thing, and there are plenty of reviews up anyway.
Screenshots? I don't want to automatically upload. I hit F10 when i want a shot, then periodically i go and pick out the best shots and upload them into an album and share them with those i want - not limited to Steam users as well. I share with the whole community via the forums or reddit.
Other features of Steam (some of which can be obtained by simply linking the game) i have no interest in either. Streaming? If i was really interested i'd use twitch. In home streaming - where to? My daughter has the only good TV in the house and i don't need to do it anyway.
Anyway, 100% if my purchases will go to FD regardless, because i won't be linking my account. I hate middlemen... and Steam are middlemen.
I linked and used my steam key before reading up more on the forum post.
Since I understood it as steam would only get a cut from steam.elitedangerous.com, that said if it is such that steam gets cut from the main storefront, and especially if they also get so on merchandise, then I will have to find a way to unlink the account and invalidate the key, steam is all good and fine but most certainly doesn't feel worth 30% cut for the ability to track hours played and write a review, everything else could be done with the non steam client added as non steam game.
And there is really no difference to me updating with launcher or steam.
So yeah...
Since I understood it as steam would only get a cut from steam.elitedangerous.com, that said if it is such that steam gets cut from the main storefront, and especially if they also get so on merchandise, then I will have to find a way to unlink the account and invalidate the key, steam is all good and fine but most certainly doesn't feel worth 30% cut for the ability to track hours played and write a review, everything else could be done with the non steam client added as non steam game.
And there is really no difference to me updating with launcher or steam.
So yeah...
I'm going to have to see someone from FD publicly say here that the agreed upon deal for legacy customers is they get a cut, because that's not the sense I get when I load from steam and it launches the FD launcher and no it isn't the secondary interface between the two launchers before the keys were given out. If it is then I'll disconnect my account if I can.
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My goodness what a silly idea. Some people are under the imperssion that Valve is somehow forcing Frontier to use their service, and that Frontier is somehow losing money because of this. First of all, Frontier is a multi-billion dollar company, so is Valve. Frontier decided to sell their product through steam. They did this for theirown financial reasons, better marketing and so on. Froniter knows the full implication of being on steam, they also understand the financial implications of giving out steam keys to all existing players. If it was really so financially destructive to do so, they would not have done it. But to clear it up a little more, I think it works like this. Any one who buys the game now through steam, Valve will get a cut, sure, makes sense. But in what way will me linking my account, who I have already paid frontier in full, take money away from frontier in the future? When I launch ED, it starts their launcher, ever notice that all the extra products, merchandise, paint jobs, etc. are all advertised within their launcher, not on the steam page. Also I assume all future expansions for ED will most likely be sold through the ED launcher, not steam. You don't need to worry so much about Frontiers financial situation, Valve is not evil, they are partners working together. Any one who hates steam for one reason or another, but loves PC gaming needs to do some soul searching. Steam has single handedly brought PC gaming from the dead. 10 years ago all the predictions were for consoles to take over, now it's exactly the opposite, and we have steam to thank for that.
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I wonder how many sales originated via Steam rather than directly from FD. I hadn't heard of ED until I saw it pop up on Steam... Even if Steam takes a 30% cut, the 70% FD received from me is 100% more than they would have were it not for Steam!
That said, if I'd known I could purchase directly, that's what I would have done. But, that's a pretty big "if".
Lots of guess work here but looking at this thread there appears to be almost 130,000 sales of Elite since April (when it hit Steam), so if Steam contributed to a high of 66% of sales due to its higher profile/wider market, that's 85,800 copies, with Frontier's store shifting 44,200.
All the usual caveats apply.
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Doesn't matter to me.
I don't buy things from steam normally but in this case I was glad to get my steam key.
I downloaded the full game in 40 mins from steam.
The last main update took 5 hours from Frontier's Elite launcher.
They had time to fix this issue, they didn't care.
I will be updating, downloading and buying DLC from steam from now on.
I don't buy things from steam normally but in this case I was glad to get my steam key.
I downloaded the full game in 40 mins from steam.
The last main update took 5 hours from Frontier's Elite launcher.
They had time to fix this issue, they didn't care.
I will be updating, downloading and buying DLC from steam from now on.
Each launcher has its respective store, these can be viewed at https://steam.elitedangerous.com and https://store.elitedangerous.com
Steam or rather Valve deserve praise for what they've done but I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say the survival of PC gaming rests entirely on their shoulders.