A Lavigny-Duval Cycle Two Target Discussion

Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law
They've done a really great job of messing everything up. Absolute genius, of course they're not going to refund all the prep we put into now defunct systems. It'd have been better not to make the correction, rather than mess up everyone's hard work today.
 

edgar

edgar
Here's what happened for those who are not aware:

Michael Brookes said:
Greetings Commanders,

We have audited the results of this morning's Powerplay Cycle, and found that a few Powers did not receive the full benefit of your efforts to prepare systems for them to expand into. Unfortunately, this left space for some Powers to expand into a small number of systems that they were not entitled to.

To correct the balance, we have made the following adjustments to Expansion Systems.

The small number of Commanders with outstanding Powerplay vouchers earned by destroying enemy targets in the four lost systems will have received merits and credits for them.
Unfortunately, it is not possible to credit Commanders who have yet to deliver Powerplay Commodities that affect the lost systems, any such cargo will have to be abandoned.

To address concerns raised by those Commanders who were not expecting the first Powerplay Cycle to end this morning, we have reduced the decay so that all Commanders have only lost 6/7ths of the Merits they would normally have lost at the end of a cycle. This affects this cycle only, all future cycles will decay at the full amount.

We currently expect that the cycles will end during our weekly maintenance period on Thursday mornings (07.00 UTC), but we may revise this in the future if balancing and tuning requires it.

As part of our ongoing tuning, we have made another reduction to the costs of integrity repairs.


Aisling Duval
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No Change

Edmund Mahon
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No Change

Arissa Lavigny-Duval
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Expanded into: Carverda, Lutni
Lost expansion: Lakluita

Felica Winters
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Expanded into: Aulin, Mendindui, LTT 4337, Zeta Trianguli Australis

Denton Patreus
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Expanded into: Chapsugaibo, Picaurukan, Wangal, Lao Zi Lost expansion: Dongzi

Zachary Hudson
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Expanded into: Bhritzameno, Te Uira

Li Yong-Rui
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No Change

Zemina Torval
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Expanded into: LFT 37, Kaliki

Pranav Antal
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No Change

Archon Delaine
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Expanded into: Lalande 45165
Lost expansion: Wu Chelki, HIP 110205

In order to work out who wins the preparation we look at all systems that are in the afforded top 10 lists of the powers.
Even if someone has done more preparation than anyone else if they can’t stump up the cash the cant prepare and they don’t count.
We then look at systems within exploitation radii of each other we take the most prepared systems and eliminate the others as Control systems cannot be contested and it is easier to eliminate them at this early stage.

This happened with the following systems:

LFT 37 (Sucessful) and Kappa Phoenicis (failed)
Kappa Fornacis (Sucessful) and Autahenetsi (failed)
Caspatsuria (Sucessful) and Grovichun(failed)
Kaliki (Sucessful) and Mandh(failed)
Kamocan(Sucessful) and Lakluita(failed)
Mendindui(Sucessful) and Kaukamine(failed)

If more than one power is preparing the same system e.g. Cartoi which was being prepared by both Aisling and Arrisa both of whom had enough CC the power with the highest preparation wins Aisling had the highest preparation value so took the system in to expansion.
This also happened in Anlave won by Hudson.

These changes have been made and require no downtime or client restart.

We're still looking at some other issues with this cycle such as the command capital allocation between powers.

Thanks!

Michael
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fergal

fergal
Trafalgar Law said:
They've done a really great job of messing everything up. Absolute genius, of course they're not going to refund all the prep we put into now defunct systems. It'd have been better not to make the correction, rather than mess up everyone's hard work today.
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Well the good news is we actually have 2 of the systems we were prepping. Its not nice we lost the prep, but I think for those 2 systems it is actually good news.
Bellaung should be added to the list, but Aisling Duval is prepping it already, only 2000 in it so far.

*edit. Bang is Patronage and worth 96CC profit
 
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Abil Midena

Abil Midena
Trafalgar Law said:
They've done a really great job of messing everything up. Absolute genius, of course they're not going to refund all the prep we put into now defunct systems. It'd have been better not to make the correction, rather than mess up everyone's hard work today.
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Agreed.

But now that they did it, they need to leave it the #$@$@ alone. Let us absorb the changes and adjust our strat. Don't change it again in 6 hrs.

I've got 100 reports in my hold and have no idea where to take them...going to Vodyanes I guess.
 
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fergal

fergal
Teliadjali has close large station and worth 86CC, Bang also has a close large station.

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HeimdallofHavn said:
Silly question perhaps, but how do you oppose an expansion?
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depends who it is, for Imperial factions we need to pirate their ships and bring back their cargo.
For other factions you just need to kill their ships.
 

fergal

fergal
Hip 21778 and around there looks good 100-111cc, but I haven't been there too see what they have, if anyone is in the area maybe they could check it out and see if they have close large stations.
 

HeimdallofHavn

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fergal said:
Teliadjali has close large station and worth 86CC, Bang also has a close large station.

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depends who it is, for Imperial factions we need to pirate their ships and bring back their cargo.
For other factions you just need to kill their ships.
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Thanks a lot.

You are really doing a great job herding the cats :)

You guys members of any of these player groups?
 

jgm

jgm
LHS 1547 or similar looks like a good bet.

There are also a whole bunch of systems north of us that have swathes of greens. CD-49 3617 and Nunet are possibilities.
 
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Zhang

Zhang
fergal said:
Hip 21778 and around there looks good 100-111cc, but I haven't been there too see what they have, if anyone is in the area maybe they could check it out and see if they have close large stations.
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CMDR ferdal, could you edit your first post with the updated info from Edgar? Lots of peeps don't read beyond page one.

Plus advisories to not prep Carverda and Lutni due to FD's server error. And stop prepping Peraesii a loss making system.
 

Zhang

Zhang
Cycle Two Preparation Candidates - A. Lavigny-Duval

A suggested list by CMDR Edgar.

Cycle Two Preparation Candidates - A.Lavigny-Duval
The following Systems are recommended for Preparation for the next Cycle of Powerplay:


ADVISORY:

DO NOT PREPARE CARVERDA. DO NOT PREPARE LUTNI (We have already taken them with the latest dev update changes).

MUDHRID - UPDATE - NOW SHOWING NEGATIVE CC - **CEASE PREPARING**

HIP 18714 - UPDATE - NOW SHOWING NEGATIVE CC - **CEASE PREPARING**




AB PICTORIS
Expansion Cost 180 CC
Income +138 CC/w
Upkeep -22 CC/w
Potential Profit 116 CC/w
(Empire, Corporate, Industrial, Pop. 5.3M)
Imperial Non-Attrition: Located on our upper frontier, away from other Imperial Powers.
Strategic Value: helps to support our Undermining tasks in Federation space.
System Features: a single Coriolis Station at 1739.31LS out.
Easy Preparation: 22.67LY to nearest Control System at DELTA DORADUS.


NAGI
Expansion Cost 152 CC
Income +130 CC/w
Upkeep -22 CC/w
Potential Profit 108 CC/w
(Empire, Patronage, Industrial/Extraction, Pop. 18.5M)
Imperial Non-Attrition: Located on the opposite side of the Empire from other Imperial Powers.
Patronage: Lavigny-Duval Expansion attempts are Stronger against Patronage governments.
Protected: a High Value CC Target in our backyard, but remote from other Powers.
System Features: main Station at 1466.29LS out.
Easy Preparation: 43.78LY to nearest Control Station / HQ at KAMADHENU.


NGARAWE
Expansion Cost 160 CC
Income +126 CC/w
Upkeep -28 CC/w
Potential Profit 98 CC/w
(Empire, Patronage, Industrial/Extraction, Pop. 8.8M)
Imperial Non-Attrition: Located on the opposite side of the Empire from other Imperial Powers.
High Tech: a High-Tech Economy is available within 15LYs at ANDONNUS.
Patronage: Lavigny-Duval Expansion attempts are Stronger against Patronage governments.
Protected: a High Value CC Target in our backyard, but remote from other Powers.
System Features: Coriolis Station at 35.21LS out.
Easy Preparation: 23.36LY to nearest Control System at KUUKU.


BELLAUNG
Expansion Cost 149 CC
Income +122 CC/w
Upkeep -27 CC/w
Potential Profit 95 CC/w
(Empire, Patronage, Extraction/Industrial, Pop. 12.2M)
Imperial Non-Attrition: Located on the opposite side of the Empire from other Imperial Powers.
High Tech: a High-Tech Economy is available within 15LYs at HIP 23046.
Patronage: Lavigny-Duval Expansion attempts are Stronger against Patronage governments.
Protected: a High Value CC Target in our backyard, but remote from other Powers.
System Features: Coriolis Station at 522.26LS out.
Easy Preparation: 59.37LY to nearest Control System at ARUGH.


VODYANES
Expansion Cost 138 CC
Income +115 CC/w
Upkeep -23 CC/w
Potential Profit 92 CC/w
(Empire, Patronage, Agriculture/Industrial, Pop. 1.0B)
Imperial Non-Attrition: Located on the opposite side of the Empire from other Imperial Powers.
Strategic Value: helps to support our Undermining tasks in Federation space.
Patronage: Lavigny-Duval Expansion attempts are Stronger against Patronage governments.
System Features: nearest Station only 25.74LS out.
Easy Preparation: 31.34LY to nearest Control System at CALHUACAN.


HIP 23157
Expansion Cost 134 CC
Income +111 CC/w
Upkeep -23 CC/w
Potential Profit 88 CC/w
(Empire, Patronage, Industrial/Extraction, Pop. 12.7M)
Imperial Non-Attrition: Located on the opposite side of the Empire from other Imperial Powers.
Patronage: Lavigny-Duval Expansion attempts are Stronger against Patronage governments.
Protected: a High Value CC Target in our backyard, but remote from other Powers.
System Features: a single Coriolis Station at 1171.79LS out. High Intensity RESs.
Easy Preparation: 28.76LY to nearest Control System at AMENTA.




Why Prepare these Systems?

AB Pictoris and Nagi are located in High-Yield regions on our immediate frontiers, in directions away from rival Powers: We should consolidate our natural borders as a priority.

Ngarawe, HIP 23157, and Bellaung should be taken in order to contain Aisling’s beachhead at Cartoi.

Vodyanes offer a mix of benefits, particularly their strategic locations.

All of these Systems are sound investments, and relatively inaccessible to our rivals; Hard for them to reach, easy for us to protect.

Taking these systems should not be seen as threatening to other Imperial Powers, hopefully reducing tensions (Imperial Non-Attrition).



We must take these High-Yield frontier Systems, or we are at risk of them falling to our rivals.

We cannot allow rival Powers to establish more enclaves and beachheads in our midst!

We need to be focused, and not allow unsuitable Preparation Candidates into the Top Ten.

We must not be hobbled by poorly located, low-yield Systems in the List again.
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Trafalgar Law

Trafalgar Law
I think we should look at either Nagi or HIP 22286, Nagi was on our original list and is worth 108, HIP 22286 is worth 102, but is slightly closer to HQ. They're quite close to each other so we should just pick one.
 

fergal

fergal
Zhang said:
CMDR ferdal, could you edit your first post with the updated info from Edgar? Lots of peeps don't read beyond page one.

Plus advisories to not prep Carverda and Lutni due to FD's server error. And stop prepping Peraesii a loss making system.
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Trafalgar Law said:
I think we should look at either Nagi or HIP 22286, Nagi was on our original list and is worth 108, HIP 22286 is worth 102, but is slightly closer to HQ. They're quite close to each other so we should just pick one.
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Is Nagi next to a system we are expanding to?
It looked quite good, but it didn't make it to the original list for some reason.

Which one lets you trade goods to it, or on the way back.
It makes a big difference when you can recoup some of the costs.
 

aussi

aussi
Hi guys, sorry if I'm being dim but I'm a bit confused by the Frontier screw-up. Simple question: From your Drive doc, should I use my two nominations on AB Pictoris, or one on AB Pictoris and one on Nagi, or something else? To be honest, I don't completely understand what nomination actually does!
 

fergal

fergal
aussi said:
Hi guys, sorry if I'm being dim but I'm a bit confused by the Frontier screw-up. Simple question: From your Drive doc, should I use my two nominations on AB Pictoris, or one on AB Pictoris and one on Nagi, or something else? To be honest, I don't completely understand what nomination actually does!
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put them into ab pictoris.
It doesnt do much, it will put 2 prep points into it.
Its a bit underwhelming.
200 points is what they should give you.
 
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