A Lavigny-Duval Cycle Two Target Discussion

CMDR Brock Samson · Jun 11, 2015

This thread is getting pretty interesting, people is getting mad:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=155696&page=8

UPDATE:

Double checking the distance we found that as mentioned Grovichun had been wrongly excluded at 15.3 ly
So we have put that system in to expansion for Aisling Duval.

Thanks to feed back it was noticed that a few existing expansions were aligned to the wrong power this affected the following systems:

Vaka moves from Denton Patreus to A Lavigny-Duval
Kappa Fornacis moves from Zachary Hudson to Zemina Torval

Michael

fergal · Jun 11, 2015

CMDR Brock Samson said:
UPDATE:

Double checking the distance we found that as mentioned Grovichun had been wrongly excluded at 15.3 ly
So we have put that system in to expansion for Aisling Duval.

Thanks to feed back it was noticed that a few existing expansions were aligned to the wrong power this affected the following systems:

Vaka moves from Denton Patreus to A Lavigny-Duval
Kappa Fornacis moves from Zachary Hudson to Zemina Torval

Michael

We got Vaka now?
Guess that will make some people happy.

edgar · Jun 11, 2015

fergal said:
We got Vaka now?
Guess that will make some people happy.

Happily it is showing in the Expansion Tab with a Potential Value of 91 CC

fergal · Jun 11, 2015

edgar said:
Happily it is showing in the Expansion Tab with a Potential Value of 91 CC

I don't think those values have the costs taken off them. I think thats the amount if it is successfully fortified and not cancelled.
Might be wrong though.

edgar · Jun 11, 2015

fergal said:
I don't think those values have the costs taken off them. I think thats the amount if it is successfully fortified and not cancelled.
Might be wrong though.

On the Galaxy Map I'm seeing:

Radius Income 124
Upkeep 33
Potential Profit 91

So fingers crossed this is the unmodified value. Either way it is now the third most profitable Expansion system we have.

jgm · Jun 11, 2015

edgar said:
Happily it is showing in the Expansion Tab with a Potential Value of 91 CC

Not showing in mine. Getting tired of trying to jump through the hoops of both powerplay and powerplay bugs.

PsychoFish · Jun 11, 2015

wow .. i just came home and that hit me... hope we can sort this out. we have good systems now and have a list of new candidates. we are prepared, we can do this!!

Bostlabs · Jun 11, 2015

Well it sucks about the loss of work from you guys.
But this thread is awesome!

it was just what we needed.

OobieBinoobie · Jun 11, 2015

fergal said:
We got Vaka now?
Guess that will make some people happy.

Doesn't it mean that on balance, everyone got what they wanted from the first cycle with respect to this?

Zhang · Jun 11, 2015

fergal said:
put them into ab pictoris.
It doesnt do much, it will put 2 prep points into it.
Its a bit underwhelming.
200 points is what they should give you.

yeah I thought it was bugged when all I got for a nomination was one single miserable lousy prep point.

Dbrn47 · Jun 11, 2015

Seems a lot happened while I was in bed... I'll have to go over it. Guys, give your guns that want to help something to shoot.

No, I'm not hunting for people prepping the wrong systems, sorry.

wstephenson · Jun 11, 2015

I'm seeing an Expansion Trigger at Vaka of 1870645611 units - uninitialised variable alert!

EDIT: restarted and it's now a sane value.

jgm · Jun 11, 2015

Dbrn47 said:
Seems a lot happened while I was in bed... I'll have to go over it. Guys, give your guns that want to help something to shoot. No, I'm not hunting for people prepping the wrong systems, sorry.

Undermining the local Hudson control systems is very important because it reduces their ability to move systems from preparation to expansion. But please check the system status so that you don't waste your time on a system which is already undermined.

Negative Entropy · Jun 11, 2015

after complete client restart (back to main menu and start was not enough) I got rid of some consistencies in the UI
now VAKA shows as expansion for Lavigny both on the expansion overview and also in the galactic map (was Patreus until client restart)

VAKA, CARDVERDA and LUTNI are all showing 0% expansion probably due to missing crime sweeps.
Vaka is being opposed though.

Rall · Jun 11, 2015

fergal said:
We got Vaka now?
Guess that will make some people happy.

Time to hug it out with the EDC, get on with the job at hand.

Abil Midena · Jun 11, 2015

Submitted 22 Toval deeds to help oppose her expansion to Kaliki. The trigger is 1767, so...

I flew around for 2.5 hrs. Either FD put in a stealth nerf, or Kaliki is just not that ripe with Toval Brokers. I was getting a lot more when I was stealing from her last cycle.

CMDR Brock Samson · Jun 11, 2015

Hi all,
Looking at the issue with the Lakluita system and Arissa Lavigny-Duval, she did indeed successfully prepare it. The data is being adjusted accordingly, and should be live now.

It's raining systems, boys.

Dbrn47 · Jun 11, 2015

Don't mess with Stingy Lavingy!

edgar · Jun 11, 2015

Guathiti is at Number 1 on our Preparation List. It will hurt us by MINUS 2 CC.
Peraesii is at Number 4. It will hurt us by MINUS 14 CC.
Whether or not these are up there because of deliberate sabotage or not is irrelevant. We just need to purge them both from the Top Ten.
I suggest we increase efforts at AB PICTORIS, NGARAWE, and VODYANES in order to push the harmful systems out of the Top 5.
Overall Preparation spent on the harmful systems is still relatively low, if we make a concerted effort to focus on the favourable systems together we WILL be able to nip this situation in the bud.

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CMDR Brock Samson said:
Hi all,
Looking at the issue with the Lakluita system and Arissa Lavigny-Duval, she did indeed successfully prepare it. The data is being adjusted accordingly, and should be live now.

It's raining systems, boys.

Hallelujah!

Lord Rog · Jun 11, 2015

edgar said:
Guathiti is at Number 1 on our Preparation List. It will hurt us by MINUS 2 CC.
Peraesii is at Number 4. It will hurt us by MINUS 14 CC.
Whether or not these are up there because of deliberate sabotage or not is irrelevant. We just need to purge them both from the Top Ten.
I suggest we increase efforts at AB PICTORIS, NGARAWE, and VODYANES in order to push the harmful systems out of the Top 5.
Overall Preparation spent on the harmful systems is still relatively low, if we make a concerted effort to focus on the favourable systems together we WILL be able to nip this situation in the bud.

I imagine that Guathiti is people deliberately trying to sabotage us (or simply laziness due to its proximity to our capitol), given that its now the second cycle and most people have presumably figured out how this works by now. Still there is now less than 1000 gap between Guathiti and AB Pictoris, so keep pushing and it will hopefully be off the top spot soon.